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Philips Hue WiFi lighting set up - what do you have?

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    #1472
    AndyBoBandy
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    ctlsleh wrote: »
    To the Hue experts out there, I was looking a GU10 models and there seems to be two different White ambiance versions, a 5.5W and a 6.5W.........can anyone tell me what that equates to in a normal build?

    Also, the 6.5 looks larger than the 5.5, almost like it would protrude from a normal GU10 fitting, can anyone help me understand that?

    I’m thinking of installing them in a ceiling, so wouldn’t want them protruding at the same time, I’d want as much light as possible.

    They are also going into a kitchen, so don’t want them as spots, want as wide angle as possible beam from them, is that possible and what’s people’s experince with them from that perspective?

    Thanks in advance for the feedback

    There are only 2 types of Hue GU10

    White ambiance & colour ambiance.
    The colour version is a lot larger than a standard size GU10, but the white ambiance version is similar in size to a regular size GU10.

    The colour GU10 will fit into the type of fitting that comes in 2 parts, but will not fit into the enclosed ‘top hat’ type fitting

    The attached photo is a colour Hue GU10, and the type of fitting it will fit into


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    #1473
    AndyBoBandy
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    Heres the photo


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    #1474
    ctlsleh
    Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭ctlsleh


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    ctlsleh wrote: »
    To the Hue experts out there, I was looking a GU10 models and there seems to be two different White ambiance versions, a 5.5W and a 6.5W.........can anyone tell me what that equates to in a normal build?

    Also, the 6.5 looks larger than the 5.5, almost like it would protrude from a normal GU10 fitting, can anyone help me understand that?

    I’m thinking of installing them in a ceiling, so wouldn’t want them protruding at the same time, I’d want as much light as possible.

    They are also going into a kitchen, so don’t want them as spots, want as wide angle as possible beam from them, is that possible and what’s people’s experince with them from that perspective?

    Thanks in advance for the feedback

    There are only 2 types of Hue GU10

    White ambiance & colour ambiance.
    The colour version is a lot larger than a standard size GU10, but the white ambiance version is similar in size to a regular size GU10.

    The colour GU10 will fit into the type of fitting that comes in 2 parts, but will not fit into the enclosed ‘top hat’ type fitting

    The attached photo is a colour Hue GU10, and the type of fitting it will fit into

    Thanks AndyBo,

    Can you post that pic of send me a PM, on the fittings?
    I’m not sure what type I have, they are in the ceiling for the last 18years......:)
    Not sure what a Top Hat or two part is.....?


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    #1475
    AndyBoBandy
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    ctlsleh wrote: »
    Thanks AndyBo,

    Can you post that pic of send me a PM, on the fittings?
    I’m not sure what type I have, they are in the ceiling for the last 18years......:)
    Not sure what a Top Hat or two part is.....?


    This type will hold the colour GU10 (providing there is enough space in the ceiling cavity (which there would be)) I have 10 of these in my kitchen holding colour GU10's, and 4 on my Landing holding White Ambiance GU10's
    gu10-lamp-fitting_1426_2292_1842.jpg

    This is the 'top hat' style fitting that wont fit a colour Hue GU10, but will fit a White Ambiance Hue GU10 - I've 6 of these in my attic holding White Ambiance GU10's
    2375.1.jpg


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    #1476
    bk
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    ctlsleh wrote: »
    To the Hue experts out there, I was looking a GU10 models and there seems to be two different White ambiance versions, a 5.5W and a 6.5W.........can anyone tell me what that equates to in a normal build?

    I think there is only one White Ambiance, a 5.5w, I think the other one is the Colour + White Ambiance which goes up to 6.5w.

    Note the 6.5w supports full colours in addition to the white ambiance. So it can do red, green, etc. in addition to the different whites.
    ctlsleh wrote: »
    Also, the 6.5 looks larger than the 5.5, almost like it would protrude from a normal GU10 fitting, can anyone help me understand that?

    Yes, the colour one is larger, probably because it needs three LED's to generate the different colours.

    I've both the colour in my living room and white ambiance in the bathroom. Both fit fine in my fittings, but that may not be the case for everyone. I do prefer the colour, they seem to go brighter, but then they are a lot more expensive too.

    EDIT: Beaten too it :D


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    #1477
    AndyBoBandy
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    bk wrote: »
    I do prefer the colour, they seem to go brighter, but then they are a lot more expensive too

    They are very cheap right now on Amazon - £36.99


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    #1478
    bk
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    micks_address wrote: »
    https://www.woodies.ie/philips-plusline-240w-bulb-1061883

    That shape... Thinking of replacing the lamp altogether.. Would the hue go give enough light?

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00TPKQ6DG/ref=pd_gwm_simh_0?pf_rd_p=65b7e0dd-f899-4e87-9d0f-a0838e16bb6c&pf_rd_s=blackjack-personal-1&pf_rd_t=Gateway&pf_rd_i=mobile&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=K6HGAM7R3KMRQWDRGPJ6&pd_rd_wg=8Z6Rq&pd_rd_r=K6HGAM7R3KMRQWDRGPJ6&pf_rd_r=K6HGAM7R3KMRQWDRGPJ6&pf_rd_p=65b7e0dd-f899-4e87-9d0f-a0838e16bb6c&pd_rd_w=lHQte&pd_rd_i=B00TPKQ6DG

    Massive difference in light output, the 240w bulb is 2,000 lumen, the Hue Go just 300 lumen.

    You would need to replace it with two full size Philips Hue Bulbs, they are about 950 lumen, to get an equivalent brightness.

    But then there can be the issue if that 240w bulb in a shade, thus you aren't really getting that level of brightness.

    BTW that bulb is using massive amounts of electricity. You will save a lot my going LED. Two Hue bulbs will be less then 20w, more then a 10 times reduction.


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    #1479
    bk
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    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    They are very cheap right now on Amazon - £36.99

    Haha, don't tempt me. :P What I have will do fine for now.

    To be honest it is more just getting use to it.

    I went from crappy 50w MR16's to 7w LED GU10's which were way brighter. I thought too bright initially, but then got use to it. Then I switched to the Hue lights and I thought they were a little on the soft side, though I suspect they are still brighter then the MR16's.


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    #1480
    AndyBoBandy
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    Here is a photo of a Hue Colour Ambiance, beside a White Ambiance, beside 2 regular LED GU10 bulbs,

    As can be seen, the Hue Colour Ambiance is much larger than the other 3, the Hue White Ambiance is almost identical to a regular LED GU10


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    #1481
    micks_address
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    bk wrote: »
    Massive difference in light output, the 240w bulb is 2,000 lumen, the Hue Go just 300 lumen.

    You would need to replace it with two full size Philips Hue Bulbs, they are about 950 lumen, to get an equivalent brightness.

    But then there can be the issue if that 240w bulb in a shade, thus you aren't really getting that level of brightness.

    BTW that bulb is using massive amounts of electricity. You will save a lot my going LED. Two Hue bulbs will be less then 20w, more then a 10 times reduction.

    We always have it dimmed. Probably 30% of its output


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    #1482
    bk
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    micks_address wrote: »
    We always have it dimmed. Probably 30% of its output

    That would still be 600 lumens or double the Hue Go.

    Why not try it if you like it? Just buy it from a place with an easy returns policy and return it if it doesn't suit.

    BTW a lot of this light stuff can be personal preference, so a good idea to try and see for yourself.


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    #1483
    AndyBoBandy
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    micks_address wrote: »
    We always have it dimmed. Probably 30% of its output

    The longevity of the Hue Go’s supposedly isn’t great as the battery will eventually die.


    My own preference would be to always install a light/fitting of my choosing, and simply install a Hue bulb into it. That way you have all the function of Hue, yet all the individuality of your own personal fittings.


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    #1484
    ctlsleh
    Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭ctlsleh


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    This type will hold the colour GU10 (providing there is enough space in the ceiling cavity (which there would be)) I have 10 of these in my kitchen holding colour GU10's, and 4 on my Landing holding White Ambiance GU10's
    gu10-lamp-fitting_1426_2292_1842.jpg

    This is the 'top hat' style fitting that wont fit a colour Hue GU10, but will fit a White Ambiance Hue GU10 - I've 6 of these in my attic holding White Ambiance GU10's
    2375.1.jpg

    i guess mine if the top hat then.......


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    #1485
    Stoner
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    AndyBoBandy wrote:
    This is the 'top hat' style fitting that wont fit a colour Hue GU10, but will fit a White Ambiance Hue GU10 - I've 6 of these in my attic holding White Ambiance GU10's


    There are no issues getting enclosed fittings to hold longer than "normal" gu10 fittings.


    I have fittings that are not only enclosed, but the chamber is insulated and they have heatsinks and cages that allow the insulation to be pulled right up to the fitting.


    There is a led sticky on the electrical forum. There's a few posts on these fittings.

    Thing is people don't want to spend more than 10 euro on a fitting.

    They end up with a 50 euro lamp in an open back fitting with no fire rating and let's the air wizz into rooms

    You'd need to spend about 25 euro a fitting.

    To win work the fittings in most houses cost the electrician about 4 euro and are fit for the bin.


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    #1486
    AndyBoBandy
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    ctlsleh wrote: »
    i guess mine if the top hat then.......

    No, it looks like that fitting is a 2 part set up.

    Part 1 holds the bulb

    Part 2 connects to the bulb via a flexible power cable, so I’d say you’d fit the colour GU10’s in there if you wanted.


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    #1487
    micks_address
    Registered Users Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭micks_address


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    The longevity of the Hue Go’s supposedly isn’t great as the battery will eventually die.


    My own preference would be to always install a light/fitting of my choosing, and simply install a Hue bulb into it. That way you have all the function of Hue, yet all the individuality of your own personal fittings.
    We have a five bulb chandelier in the room and I put white hue lights in it. Kinda sorry didn't go for the ambience or coloured bulbs. Might not need the lamp with them. Used to find old incandescent bulbs buzzed when dimmed.. Hue doesn't at all. Wife very sense to light so the colour temp option is nicer to have. Of anyone fancies five white bulbs let me know as may swap them out.


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    #1488
    AndyBoBandy
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    Most of the white only bulbs I’ve had have all been swapped out for colours over the last few years, only still have 2 in outside lights and 2 in the attic guest room, every other of my 45+ bulbs are either colour or White Ambiance (GU10’s).


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    #1489
    ctlsleh
    Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭ctlsleh


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    No, it looks like that fitting is a 2 part set up.

    Part 1 holds the bulb

    Part 2 connects to the bulb via a flexible power cable, so I’d say you’d fit the colour GU10’s in there if you wanted.

    heres a better pic, maybe i can screw off the black part and fit it in?

    thanks for all the feedback


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    #1490
    AndyBoBandy
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    ctlsleh wrote: »
    heres a better pic, maybe i can screw off the black part and fit it in?

    thanks for all the feedback

    Yeah, looks like your fitting is restricted in terms of size, but as you say, you could unscrew the back holder to allow a larger bulb fit in.

    Or you could easily replace the fitting for the one i linked to above.

    Do you know any electricians that could advise you as, you’d always want to ensure what you do is completely safe.


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    #1491
    Caillte
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    micks_address wrote: »
    We have a five bulb chandelier in the room and I put white hue lights in it. Kinda sorry didn't go for the ambience or coloured bulbs. Might not need the lamp with them. Used to find old incandescent bulbs buzzed when dimmed.. Hue doesn't at all. Wife very sense to light so the colour temp option is nicer to have. Of anyone fancies five white bulbs let me know as may swap them out.

    Mick,

    Are these e14 type?


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    #1492
    micks_address
    Registered Users Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Caillte wrote: »
    Mick,

    Are these e14 type?

    No b22


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    #1493
    AndyBoBandy
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    Caillte wrote: »
    Mick,

    Are these e14 type?

    White only Hue lights currently only come in B22 & E27

    E14 only come in White Ambiance & White & Colour Ambiance.

    I’m surprised they haven’t released a White Only E14!


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    #1494
    micks_address
    Registered Users Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭micks_address


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    White only Hue lights currently only come in B22 & E27

    E14 only come in White Ambiance & White & Colour Ambiance.

    I’m surprised they haven’t released a White Only E14!

    I'm trying to decide if I should go for white ambience or colour


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    #1495
    AndyBoBandy
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    micks_address wrote: »
    I'm trying to decide if I should go for white ambience or colour

    Just get the colour now and bypass the white ambiance.

    You’ll eventually just want colour anyway!!

    The only White Ambiane I still have/use are 4 spots on the landing, and 6 spots in the attic. But putting colour in there would just be silly (although the low price of £36 per colour GU10 is rather tempting)


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    #1496
    micks_address
    Registered Users Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭micks_address


    micks_address wrote: »
    I'm trying to decide if I should go for white ambience or colour

    The colours are about 20 euro more expensive than the ambience.. The main thing I want to upgrade for is different colour temps for more relaxed lighting etc.. Not sure if colour would just be for novelty


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    #1497
    AndyBoBandy
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    micks_address wrote: »
    The colours are about 20 euro more expensive than the ambience.. The main thing I want to upgrade for is different colour temps for more relaxed lighting etc.. Not sure if colour would just be for novelty

    You’ll be having a bit of a soirée some day, and will kick yourself that you didn’t plump for the colour bulbs!!

    All in I have around 30 various colour bulbs (B22, E27, E14, Strips & Blooms)


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    #1498
    irelandrover
    Registered Users Posts: 3,704 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    I got some white only initially and I eventually replaced them with colour. I use the color quite a bit. Red lights for night lights. Different colors when watching movies. I find them great.

    I wouldn't miss them if I never had them, but I did use them a lot


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    #1499
    irishproduce
    Registered Users Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    @ Those with the switch, can a switch only be paired to one grouping of bulbs or one bulb? i.e one room or scene?

    Like if I had a switch, and pressed dim, would it dim all the bulbs that it is programmed to control or is there a way to switch between rooms?
    I see it mentioned having multiple switches so I assume each switch controls a different room/ setup


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    #1500
    AndyBoBandy
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    A Hue dimmer switch can be paired to up to 2 rooms, with however many lights are in each room.


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    #1501
    mrcheez
    Registered Users Posts: 13,643 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Interesting, I received my electricity bill today for the first time since I plugged in all the "always-on" Hue lights in every room in my house and it's about 40% higher than normal (even comparing the last 3 years at this time of year).

    €110 vs the usual €76


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