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Woman gives out about sexism at women's only mini marathon

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  • #2
    average_runner
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    UM1 wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/run-like-you-left-the-immersion-on-everyday-sexism-and-the-mini-marathon-1.2677199


    Apoligies ..just saw it posted in the ladys mini mara thread...but mite get more trackage here


    She lives a sad life if this stuff upsets her.

    I mean "Run like you left the immersion on" is hardly sexist towards women, its just an irish thing said to women, men and kids in the 80's. My mother would often of said to me, i hope you turned that immersion of!!


  • #3
    Pherekydes
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    Wait till she sees the title of this thread...


  • #4
    average_runner
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    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Wait till she sees the title of this thread...


    She is having twins reading the comment section on her article!!


  • #5
    Chivito550
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    Just on the topic of sexism, how many women have asked their husbands, fathers, brothers, boyfriends, sons etc at one point or another to "man up"?

    What's that all about?


  • #6
    average_runner
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Just on the topic of sexism, how many women have asked their husbands, fathers, brothers, boyfriends, sons etc at one point or another to "man up"?

    What's that all about?



    Very true.

    She wouldn't have the balls to come on here and answer the comments!


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  • #7
    williestroker1
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    I hope she got permission from her husband to write that.


  • #8
    RGDATA!
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Just on the topic of sexism, how many women have asked their husbands, fathers, brothers, boyfriends, sons etc at one point or another to "man up"?

    What's that all about?

    is this common? I've never heard it.


  • #9
    Chivito550
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    RGDATA! wrote: »
    is this common? I've never heard it.

    You have never heard the term "man up"? :eek:

    In two words it shows that equality and sexism is not a two-way street it seems!


  • #10
    kit3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭kit3


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Just on the topic of sexism, how many women have asked their husbands, fathers, brothers, boyfriends, sons etc at one point or another to "man up"?

    What's that all about?

    Must say it's not a term I've ever used. Have you heard it a lot ?? :P


  • #11
    UM1
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    kit3 wrote: »
    Must say it's not a term I've ever used. Have you heard it a lot ?? :P
    Often was told to harden up


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  • #12
    aero2k
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    I've seen the immersion one in at least one mixed race (maybe DCM). I'd never have regarded it as sexist, just something that would strike a chord in Ireland in general.


  • #13
    average_runner
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    UM1 wrote: »
    Often was told to harden up


    Not an issue I ever had!:D


  • #14
    williestroker1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭williestroker1


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    You have never heard the term "man up"? :eek:

    In two words it shows that equality and sexism is not a two-way street it seems!
    Looks like your on your own on this one.


  • #15
    Chivito550
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    kit3 wrote: »
    Must say it's not a term I've ever used. Have you heard it a lot ?? :P

    Mad. It is such a commonly used term.


  • #16
    williestroker1
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Mad. It is such a commonly used term.
    Haven't heard it myself. Has anyone else here?


  • #17
    Chivito550
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    williestroker1 wrote: »
    Looks like your on your own on this one.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11724215/Is-man-up-the-most-destructive-phrase-in-modern-culture.html

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Man%20Up

    http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/09/responses-to-man-up/

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/05/magazine/05FOB-onlanguage-t.html?_r=0

    The thing is that women use this term as much as men do, which is completely hypocritical.


  • #18
    ThisRegard
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    williestroker1 wrote: »
    Haven't heard it myself. Has anyone else here?

    I've heard of it plenty of times. Never had to be told to do it though, due to my 24/7 manliness, probably.


  • #19
    Firedance
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    I definitely saw that immersion one in DCM 14, it did make me laugh. I can kind of see where she's coming from and although it's not something that would bother me personally she has a right to express her views and it's never any harm to have the discussion is it? People's perspectives are different, some women will agree strongly with her, others will shrug their shoulders and say 'Meh, there are other battles more worthy of fighting'.

    But does she spot the irony of complaining as UM1 has said in a women's only race where men are not allowed? Doubtful!

    Chivitto I think that 'man up' expression is more American than Irish but I'd agree I have heard it used (not sure if on TV or IRL though).


  • #20
    tea and coffee
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    I don't find any of those 3 comments she mentioned in the article offensive in the slightest (I participated in the mini marathon). They could all equally be aimed at men. I would reserve my ire for actual sexism, instead of getting offended where no offence is intended. Comparing a light hearted comment or banner to the atrocities of practises of FGM (comments section) is completely disingenuous, and offensive in itself.


  • #21
    Chivito550
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    Firedance wrote: »

    Chivitto I think that 'man up' expression is more American than Irish but I'd agree I have heard it used (not sure if on TV or IRL though).

    I've heard it used in real life in both Ireland and Australia, sometimes by women who proclaim themselves as feminists. Incredible stuff really!


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  • #22
    REXER
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    Pathetic 1st world problem.

    In the 3rd world the women have to fetch the water and then find the wood for the fire to heat it!


  • #23
    Realt Dearg Sec
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    williestroker1 wrote: »
    Haven't heard it myself. Has anyone else here?

    Not from a woman. From men when playing sports and you're injured, but only ever joking.


  • #24
    williestroker1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭williestroker1


    Its so unusual for a feminist to find offense with anything.


  • #25
    ThisRegard
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    Firedance wrote: »
    I definitely saw that immersion one in DCM 14, it did make me laugh. I can kind of see where she's coming from

    I honestly don't. I cannot fathom how leaving the immersion on has become a bastion of sexism. As I understand it neither sex has exclusivity to do.


  • #26
    Firedance
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I honestly don't. I cannot fathom how leaving the immersion on has become a bastion of sexism. As I understand it neither sex has exclusivity to do.

    No, I didn't mean with the immersion comment, don't get me wrong, I meant that I can see sometimes why people can take offense at 'some things' and being shouted 'don't worry your hair still looks great' might come under that. It doesn't bother me personally, I'm just saying that people have different perspectives on things, and that's mostly okay, especially if it gets a good debate going.

    The debate in this case might be as Chivitto has pointed out men being told to 'man up' or a race that exists that doesn't allow men to take part.

    You only quoted part of my post which takes it out of context :)


  • #27
    ThisRegard
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    Firedance wrote: »
    You only quoted part of my post which takes it out of context :)

    I get ya.

    One thing I haven't heard in a long long time being shouted is "lift those hairy legs!". I can certainly understand a woman being offended at that.


  • #28
    kit3
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    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Mad. It is such a commonly used term.

    Think you miss read my post - I've never used the term. Have heard it alright. Was merely asking if you are asked to do this often ;) (only winding :rolleyes: )


  • #29
    cjt156
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    Pfft; she'll never snag herself a husband with an attitude like that..

    Seriously, though; such a trivial article is just a disservice to the real issues that need addressing. The Stanford case and the attitude of the court, the rapist's family and other apologists are something worth writing column inches over.

    This is nonsense.


  • #30
    DubOnHoliday
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    Similar to the idiot who claimed after falling on the Wicklow way, some people should not go outside their door. Better for the rest of us.


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  • #31
    RacoonQueen
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    I reckon the irony of complaining about sexism at this particular event is lost on this journalist.


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