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New 100-115hp loader tractor

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  • #32
    whitetail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 ✭whitetail


    Yes it's a JD


  • #33
    whitetail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 ✭whitetail


    Yes it's a JD


  • #34
    davidk1394
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    If imagine there's a gaping price difference between that and the landini. I know a fella that bought a 5115m with loader a few months ago for 60k and I thought it was very basic for the price of it. I'd imagine a 6115 would probably be another 15k along with that. Tractors are gone stupidly expensive especially the couple of bigger names.
    I don't know why people go for brand new tractors. You'd save 10 - 15k on an ex demo machine if your willing to be patient and do some investigating. Also its a cheap to buy a 135-140hp tractor as a 100hp.


  • #35
    Mf310
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Mf310


    davidk1394 wrote:
    I don't know why people go for brand new tractors. You'd save 10 - 15k on an ex demo machine if your willing to be patient and do some investigating. Also its a cheap to buy a 135-140hp tractor as a 100hp.


    All very well saying that its as cheap to buy 135 -140hp but no point in having a 140hp tractor with a loader going around a rale tight yard. As nice and all as itd be and all that itd cost more in the long run as well with diesel and all


  • #36
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Mf310 wrote: »
    All very well saying that its as cheap to buy 135 -140hp but no point in having a 140hp tractor with a loader going around a rale tight yard. As nice and all as itd be and all that itd cost more in the long run as well with diesel and all
    +1

    I was offered a 115hp ex demo for 5k more than a new 100hp but it would be overkill for a 1t spreader, 1600 gal tanker and 4'4" grab which is 95% of its work. 100hp is exactly what I need for now and the next few years.


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  • #37
    davidk1394
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Mf310 wrote: »
    All very well saying that its as cheap to buy 135 -140hp but no point in having a 140hp tractor with a loader going around a rale tight yard. As nice and all as itd be and all that itd cost more in the long run as well with diesel and all
    I would have agreed with you until I bought the class last year it's not much bigger than a friends 6100 MC JD and it doesn't burn much more than his tractor when doing yard work. Also it broadens your options for the future by being able to do work you couldn't do before. and while we're on the note of "rale tight yards" what is the fascination of Irish farmers and tight spaces. Was hauling into a dairy farm last week where the owner spent 1 million on a whole new set up and 2 f#ckers of 10ft gates going into and out of the yard


  • #38
    pedigree 6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    +1

    I was offered a 115hp ex demo for 5k more than a new 100hp but it would be overkill for a 1t spreader, 1600 gal tanker and 4'4" grab which is 95% of its work. 100hp is exactly what I need for now and the next few years.

    Each to their own. I have a 115hp tractor and there's times i'd love that bit more power.
    Have a 1300 gal tanker and when have the money together to replace will be getting a 2000 gal tanker.
    Then drawing 24 bales of straw there's hills you'd meet when you could do with a bit extra.
    For turning in the yard there's a surprising good turning circle on the 4270 for a 6 cylinder tractor and with the loader has the height to stack hay and straw bales 4 high with ease.
    I think the next tractor i'll get when I trade in will be 120hp.(at least)
    But happy enough for what work I do (not a big lot but still use it everyday) with the 6cyl mf 4270. Have it 4 years now and had to replace clutch and brakes but not major.


  • #39
    twin_beacon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    stantheman1979 wrote: »
    Don't laugh but a neighbour bought a new tumasan. He just uses it for yard work and topping, slurry, etc and he loves it. Says its far gutsy and easy to manicure than the NH.It was very cheap and has a very basic cab but it's a nice little tractor.

    We looked at one back in 2002, the 80hp model. They were priced around the same as a zetor. They were like the fiat 880, similar style cab with the gear stick in the middle. We didn't get one, as they were a brand new manufacturer, and had no idea if they would be around in 5 years, so could have issues with parts down the line. All in all, they seem to be decent machines. Most people that bought them would have been stock farmers, so they should not have been abused too much, and were probably mainly owner driven.


  • #40
    mythos110
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭mythos110


    Mf310 wrote: »
    All very well saying that its as cheap to buy 135 -140hp but no point in having a 140hp tractor with a loader going around a rale tight yard. As nice and all as itd be and all that itd cost more in the long run as well with diesel and all

    Agree with you there. In relation to the original post, I already have a 148hp tractor in the yard, so I am looking to get a nice sized tractor for loader duty and to do the lower hp requirement jobs like topping and spreading fert. I would intend keeping the tractor for at least 20 years and upgrade another tractor in 7 years time once the one I potentially buy early next year is paid for...


  • #41
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,629 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    mythos110 wrote: »
    Agree with you there. In relation to the original post, I already have a 148hp tractor in the yard, so I am looking to get a nice sized tractor for loader duty and to do the lower hp requirement jobs like topping and spreading fert. I would intend keeping the tractor for at least 20 years and upgrade another tractor in 7 years time once the one I potentially buy early next year is paid for...

    Tractor should be bought to the job it's required for. Buying extra hp for just in case will only cost ya as you have to feed them extra horses with diesel


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  • #42
    sthilmick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭sthilmick


    mythos110 wrote: »
    Agree with you there. In relation to the original post, I already have a 148hp tractor in the yard, so I am looking to get a nice sized tractor for loader duty and to do the lower hp requirement jobs like topping and spreading fert. I would intend keeping the tractor for at least 20 years and upgrade another tractor in 7 years time once the one I potentially buy early next year is paid for...
    Well the 5600 series masseys look good with a tight turning circle 100 ltr per minute hydraulics 3 pot engine from 85hp to 100hp slope bonnet loader ready one has the dyna shift on the joystick and the 3&4 services ready plumbed in. Good reviews on the farmers guardian chanel on YouTube he gives a few makes the same test with a loader NH JD & MF all in the 90-105 hp category and he's pretty much a neutral. Keep your tractor under a roof and grease and oil her regular and should be able to get the 20years you want outta her


  • #43
    mythos110
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭mythos110


    sthilmick wrote: »
    Well the 5600 series masseys look good with a tight turning circle 100 ltr per minute hydraulics 3 pot engine from 85hp to 100hp slope bonnet loader ready one has the dyna shift on the joystick and the 3&4 services ready plumbed in. Good reviews on the farmers guardian chanel on YouTube he gives a few makes the same test with a loader NH JD & MF all in the 90-105 hp category and he's pretty much a neutral. Keep your tractor under a roof and grease and oil her regular and should be able to get the 20years you want outta her

    That's the way I've been operating so far. Everything is in one shed and gets well serviced. Its key to getting long term value from a machine. Its also amazing what a grease gun does for front axles and loaders. Some lads forget that a few bob on grease goes a long way in a few years time. I bought an air greaser a few years ago - best investment on the farm!!

    There's a good massey dealer near me so might take a look there as well. Does anyone know if they are now very similar to the Valtra's (like Landini are to McCormack) or are they still fairly independent? Know very little about Massey's tbh.

    Thanks for the suggestion.


  • #44
    twin_beacon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    I don't know why people go for brand new tractors. You'd save 10 - 15k on an ex demo machine if your willing to be patient and do some investigating. Also its a cheap to buy a 135-140hp tractor as a 100hp.

    True, but why buy a people car, when all you need is a Fiesta!
    Our yard is very tight when we have bale on the loader of a 90hp massey, couldn't imagine what it would be like if we has a large 6 cylinder tractor. Unless you are in a tillage area, most tractors of that size would have began their lives with a contractor. I'd rather a 5 year old 100hp machine thats been owner driven, than a 140hp contractor machine of the same age and hours.


  • #45
    49801
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    Be hard to ignore 56xx mf series for this. Good finance to be had


  • #46
    Shannon757
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    New Holland T4.120?

    Or maybe something completely out of the box:
    http://agriculture1.newholland.com/nar/en-us/equipment/products/tractors-telehandlers/bidirectional


  • #47
    Midfield9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Midfield9


    mythos110 wrote: »
    That's the way I've been operating so far. Everything is in one shed and gets well serviced. Its key to getting long term value from a machine. Its also amazing what a grease gun does for front axles and loaders. Some lads forget that a few bob on grease goes a long way in a few years time. I bought an air greaser a few years ago - best investment on the farm!!

    There's a good massey dealer near me so might take a look there as well. Does anyone know if they are now very similar to the Valtra's (like Landini are to McCormack) or are they still fairly independent? Know very little about Massey's tbh.

    Thanks for the suggestion.

    Masseys and valtra have the same engine in them anyway.


  • #48
    mythos110
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭mythos110


    Shannon757 wrote: »
    New Holland T4.120?

    Or maybe something completely out of the box:
    http://agriculture1.newholland.com/nar/en-us/equipment/products/tractors-telehandlers/bidirectional

    A bit like the old MFT!


  • #49
    sthilmick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭sthilmick


    Shannon757 wrote: »
    New Holland T4.120?

    Or maybe something completely out of the box:
    http://agriculture1.newholland.com/nar/en-us/equipment/products/tractors-telehandlers/bidirectional
    The old ones got slated for being under powered reverse drive is a good option


  • #50
    sthilmick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭sthilmick


    They share the engine as do fendt and I think they have a few more common bits not sur what they are


  • #51
    orm0nd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,328 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Can't speak from experience but the new ones look far better made imo from the old ones. Still a perkins in them but I think most people ain't too fond of them

    the modern perkins engine are sh1te compared to the old,

    a few old landini blizzards & 9880's around here & still going strong but any body bought a new landini very disappointed & massive problems,


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  • #52
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,629 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    orm0nd wrote: »
    the modern perkins engine are sh1te compared to the old,

    a few old landini blizzards & 9880's around here & still going strong but any body bought a new landini very disappointed & massive problems,

    What types (vision)? No 5H has come back to the garage with any problems that I know of and they are out about 5 years

    What types of problems?


  • #53
    mythos110
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭mythos110


    orm0nd wrote: »
    the modern perkins engine are sh1te compared to the old,

    a few old landini blizzards & 9880's around here & still going strong but any body bought a new landini very disappointed & massive problems,

    The engine of our Mythos '03 hasn't caused us any grief but then the hours are low and it has been well serviced. Loads of power as well. Maybe the 6cyl engine was better than the 4?


  • #54
    X6.430macman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭X6.430macman


    orm0nd wrote:
    a few old landini blizzards & 9880's around here & still going strong but any body bought a new landini very disappointed & massive problems,


    Some of the new landinis don't have perkins engines anymore.


  • #55
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,629 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    X6.430macman wrote: »
    Some of the new landinis don't have perkins engines anymore.

    5H has but from the 6c upwards it's all Iveco I think


  • #56
    X6.430macman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭X6.430macman


    Reggie. wrote:
    5H has but from the 6c upwards it's all Iveco I think


    Are they the Fiat engines??


  • #57
    mythos110
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭mythos110


    X6.430macman wrote: »
    Are they the Fiat engines??

    Iveco=Fiat yeah


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