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Noonan is off to Bilderberg this year.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Our finance minister attends a meeting with rich potential investors in Ireland. Sounds fine to me.

    I'd rather he did that than attend a meeting with representatives of North Korea, Venezuela, etc.

    Capitalism may have its faults but it generally works. Sure, there are some poor, but far less than in places like Venezuela or NK where virtually everyone has been turned into a pauper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Saipanne wrote: »
    OK now you're deep in fantasy land. The ecb can produce debt at a cost of 1% (or zero, should they choose) to buy government bonds (just like they did during the depths of the crisis), far from your magic 10% figure.

    I'm not going to respond to you anymore, so you have the last word. All the best.

    Christ man, where do you think the ECB gets it's money? The wealth of all the banks around the EU, which is why they get countries in - to get more bank stock.

    Look, whatever, there's more than you here anyway
    .
    That you can say "the bank bought the government bonds" with not a hint of the implications there is enough for me anyway.

    But for others here, the biggest players in the EU - and many others - bought their own bloody bonds with money it got from banks, loaned at interest. Now indebted after buying it's own bonds, we the people are "tasked" (read "taxed") with generating the government coffers necessary to repay that debt.

    Enjoy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Our finance minister attends a meeting with rich potential investors in Ireland. Sounds fine to me.

    I'd rather he did that than attend a meeting with representatives of North Korea, Venezuela, etc.

    Capitalism may have its faults but it generally works. Sure, there are some poor, but far less than in places like Venezuela or NK where virtually everyone has been turned into a pauper.

    The principals of democracy seem to have escaped you. Noonan, one of our so called representatives, is due to go to a closed door meeting with heads of the biggest banks, supranational bureaucracies and corporations in the world, and not a whisper about it in the Irish media. You may think that it is just a benevolent talking shop, but could you say with a straight face that nothing gets decided/agreed at these events? Just look at the attendee list, it's a who's who of globalism, banking and corporatism. These types have agendas, they are not getting together just for the craic. Don't we have a right to know the details of what Noonan will be getting up to over there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    The principals of democracy seem to have escaped you. Noonan, one of our so called representatives, is due to go to a closed door meeting with heads of the biggest banks, supranational bureaucracies and corporations in the world, and not a whisper about it in the Irish media. You may think that it is just a benevolent talking shop, but could you say with a straight face that nothing gets decided/agreed at these events? Just look at the attendee list, it's a who's who of globalism, banking and corporatism. These types have agendas, they are not getting together just for the craic. Don't we have a right to know the details of what Noonan will be getting up to over there?

    But you guys seem to know exactly what's going on, right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    The principals of democracy seem to have escaped you. Noonan, one of our so called representatives, is due to go to a closed door meeting with heads of the biggest banks, supranational bureaucracies and corporations in the world, and not a whisper about it in the Irish media. You may think that it is just a benevolent talking shop, but could you say with a straight face that nothing gets decided/agreed at these events? Just look at the attendee list, it's a who's who of globalism, banking and corporatism. These types have agendas, they are not getting together just for the craic. Don't we have a right to know the details of what Noonan will be getting up to over there?

    Tells us again about the principles of democracy in places like NK, Cuba and Venezuela?

    Bilderberg or no Bilderberg, we are doing something right here in the west. Those nations who have embraced capitalism to the full are with an occasional exception, eg Greece, but that is more to do with the fact the left wing dominate too much, doing very well and consistently top the average income per person tables.

    Those who have embraced communion or socialism are collapsing under the weight of hyperinflation and poverty.

    I know which ideology I am in favour of.

    So if Bilderberg are running the West, and let's face it its almost solely Westerners or Rich country attendees, then they are doing a pretty good job of it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 260 ✭✭Stig Inge


    Hopefully angela put's an apple in his mouth and takes him with a strapon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Did he get a job waiting tables?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭Autonomous Cowherd


    Recent show with Abby Martin speaking to Mark Crispin Miller - Professor of Media Studies at New York University - about Propaganda. About half way in (if you have not got 27 minutes to spare to be educated...) he talks very coherently about the way the term Conspiracy Theorist is used as a weapon to insult and degrade people who are often realistically involved in a search for the truth.

    Michael Noonan should not attend international meetings that lack transparency. Bilderberg assemblies meet to co-ordinate goals and directions that concern all humanity and the minutes of every meeting should be published and made available to public scrutiny. Otherwise it is undemocratic.



    (In case it does not embed for me...here is link ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7HmFH-Wo1s )

    Michael Noonan...''Sew up your pockets''.... yeah, hilarious.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0wQ73QdY2g


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Saipanne wrote: »
    But you guys seem to know exactly what's going on, right?

    What do you think the meeting is for?
    Discuss the weather?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Saipanne wrote: »
    I worry for the mental health of people who obsess over such things. I know a few CT types, and they're just not doing well, full of wild ideas and paranoia. They all seem to think someone has it in for them.

    It's genuinely sad to see.

    I find it genuinely baffling that you have such a problem accepting that world political and industrial figures meet in private and set the agenda for consolidation the worlds finance and resources into the hands of the few. What is so unbelievable about that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    I grew out of looking at every conspiracy theory going by the age of 15.

    The utter narrow mindedness and anti-intellectualism of enthusiasts was a massive red flag to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    HensVassal wrote: »
    I find it genuinely baffling that you have such a problem accepting that world political and industrial figures meet in private and set the agenda for consolidation the worlds finance and resources into the hands of the few. What is so unbelievable about that?

    I tend to read the full thread before posting to avoid making posts like yours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    It's funny how the successful and wealthy are rarely into conspiracy theories.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Saipanne wrote: »
    I've no doubt that happens.

    20cent has already forgotten this post...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭Autonomous Cowherd


    genericguy wrote: »
    It's funny how the successful and wealthy are rarely into conspiracy theories.

    Is this a fact or a personal opinion? That is an anti-intellectual remark as it has no evidence that can support it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    Is this a fact or a personal opinion? That is an anti-intellectual remark as it has no evidence that can support it.

    Bla bla bla. Let me be clear, I'm basing it on anecdotal experience. Conspiracy theorists that I know are poorly educated and do not have highly paying jobs. Same with those freemen on the land retards whom I would tar with the same brush. They are usually fat too.

    Muppets looking for some insurmountable conspiracy to explain why they never could have succeeded, when their own laziness is the culprit. ****ing mongos


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    Is this a fact or a personal opinion? That is an anti-intellectual remark as it has no evidence that can support it.

    Also with retorts like that I'm sure you must be fighting the ladies off. You have a black belt in neckbeard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Your Face wrote: »
    Save us Alex Jones.

    Yer wan that presents The One Show?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Suppose it depends what one considers a conspiracy theory.
    I'd imagine a lot of deal/agreements are made by politicians that benefit themselves over the interests of the countries they represent. Not that hard to imagine.
    The lizard, 911 etc stuff is just to muddy the waters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭Autonomous Cowherd


    genericguy wrote: »
    Also with retorts like that I'm sure you must be fighting the ladies off. You have a black belt in neckbeard.

    Haha :) I'm a lady as it happens, and an intelligent, capable one with many professional qualifications and successes under my belt. I am however open to many possible angles on reality, while keeping my BS detector firmly in place. No neck beard here :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭irishguitarlad


    genericguy wrote: »
    It's funny how the successful and wealthy are rarely into conspiracy theories.

    Muse? Pretty sure matt bellamy is a huge conspiracy theorist, even called an album HAARP ffs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 260 ✭✭Stig Inge


    Haha :) I'm a lady as it happens, and an intelligent, capable one with many professional qualifications and successes under my belt.

    You sound like an arsehole tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    Haha :) I'm a lady as it happens, and an intelligent, capable one with many professional qualifications and successes under my belt. I am however open to many possible angles on reality, while keeping my BS detector firmly in place. No neck beard here :D

    Doubtful. On the Internet all the men are men, the women are men, and the children are fbi


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    No rest for the wicked. Finance minister Noonan is on the guest list of Bilderberg 2016 to be held in Dresden, Germany this week. I wonder what's on the agenda this time at this annual psychopath convention, what will be whispered in his ear? is their something cooking for us here in Ireland?.. must be since the finance minister was summoned to appear before his masters. Do we still think that we live in a democracy?

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/13/aa/12/13aa12ba4f88b13215af6937fff719b7.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    genericguy wrote: »
    Doubtful. On the Internet all the men are men, the women are men, and the children are fbi

    Pah hahaha :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    I grew out of looking at every conspiracy theory going by the age of 15.

    The utter narrow mindedness and anti-intellectualism of enthusiasts was a massive red flag to me.

    I'm not a fan of the conspiracy theory mindset where any evidence of conspiracy is taken as gospel and any counter evidence is rejected out of hand but conspiracies do occasionally actually happen its just they normally aren't that nebulous and their motivations are understandable.

    If I told you that some of the most influential figures in a large Western European country were a few decades ago part of a quasi-Masonic Group that commited numerous criminal acts and attempted to influence policy, you would tell me I was a fantasist.

    Thing is its true (the P2 lodge in Italy)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    I'm not a fan of the conspiracy theory mindset where any evidence of conspiracy is taken as gospel and any counter evidence is rejected out of hand but conspiracies do occasionally actually happen its just they normally aren't that nebulous and their motivations are understandable.

    If I told you that some of the most influential figures in a large Western European country were a few decades ago part of a quasi-Masonic Group that commited numerous criminal acts and attempted to influence policy, you would tell me I was a fantasist.

    Thing is its true (the P2 lodge in Italy)

    Stopped clock, etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Saipanne wrote: »
    I'm not a fan of the conspiracy theory mindset where any evidence of conspiracy is taken as gospel and any counter evidence is rejected out of hand but conspiracies do occasionally actually happen its just they normally aren't that nebulous and their motivations are understandable.

    If I told you that some of the most influential figures in a large Western European country were a few decades ago part of a quasi-Masonic Group that commited numerous criminal acts and attempted to influence policy, you would tell me I was a fantasist.

    Thing is its true (the P2 lodge in Italy)

    Stopped clock, etc.

    To use a clock analogy, I generally think a clock is telling the right time, I don't think clocks are always at the wrong time because the Lizard Overlords want us to work more or when they have stopped its evidence of their tampering.
    I think that a clock might be off because any number of reasons, just one of those reasons might be because, a house-mate is playing a prank on me.

    Conspiracies do happen, look at Northern Ireland and the Stalker investigation, its as blind to claim that groups of powerful people have never attempted to do things in secret as it is to think that they are always doing these things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Tells us again about the principles of democracy in places like NK, Cuba and Venezuela?

    Nice strawman you made there. I never expressed any approval of North Korea, Cuba, or Venezuela.
    Bilderberg or no Bilderberg, we are doing something right here in the west. Those nations who have embraced capitalism to the full are with an occasional exception, eg Greece, but that is more to do with the fact the left wing dominate too much, doing very well and consistently top the average income per person tables.

    You are mixing capitalism up with corporatism, they are not the same thing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    You are mixing capitalism up with corporatism, they are not the same thing.

    Essentially they are.

    Capitalism means the freedom to do what you want, setup a small business or set up a massive corporation.

    As for Bilderberg, its increasingly difficult for any small group of people to control anything in the capitalist west.

    That being said, of course the heads of Facebook, Microsoft, Intel, large banks and other corporations are going to have huge power and influence. There's nothing new about that.

    Essentially there is nothing to see here. Rich, powerful, influential capitalists meet. So bloody what.

    Ireland's leaders have always taken on board what the likes Intel, Microsoft, Google etc have to say. Without these companies we'd have nothing as a nation, comely maidens dancing at the crossroads would be the height of it.

    You are probably giving out about these corporations using a laptop made by them, using Google to keep up with the story, and driving a car made by one of these "evil" companies.

    At the end of the say they are just companies trying to make a profit and providing a service.


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