"No blacks allowed"

Your Face · 07-06-2016 07:54PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

We discriminat against our too unfortunately. I'm betting some that posted outrage here wouldn't be so upset it the bouncer said no travellers. It's all wrong

That's always an interesting comparsion in to make in threads like these.
Probably not as fashionable a cause as other ones.

Richard tea · 07-06-2016 07:55PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

sorry lads you aren't getting in

IS IT COZ WE ARE BLAK

[sarcasm] yes, it's because you're black [/sarcasm]

and the story was born

This is exactly what I was thinking.

4ensic15 · 07-06-2016 07:57PM

I don't go into premises that have bouncers on the door as a rule. Anyone who does deserves what they get.

jimgoose · 07-06-2016 07:59PM

4ensic15 wrote: »

I don't go into premises that have bouncers on the door as a rule. Anyone who does deserves what they get.

No, sir. No they don't.

I find it a little difficult to believe that a professional doorman, in Ireland, in 2016, actually did that.

Bigbok · 07-06-2016 08:02PM

How can people not think this
Possibly happened??without starting a huge argument some of the most racist people I know
Are Irish?im not saying all Irish are racist just saying that I know
Quiet a few

07-06-2016 08:05PM

Bigbok wrote:

How can people not think this Possibly happened??without starting a huge argument some of the most racist people I know Are Irish?im not saying all Irish are racist just saying that I know Quiet a few

I can see possibly a racist doorman but I just find it difficult to believe that he told them why they weren't getting in. It's policy not to give a reason.
I agree lots of Irish are racist

Felix Jones is God · 07-06-2016 08:08PM

Bigbok wrote: »

How can people not think this
Possibly happened??without starting a huge argument some of the most racist people I know
Are Irish?im not saying all Irish are racist just saying that I know
Quiet a few

Says the guy who doesn't count the black population of South Africa when quoting rugby playing numbers :rolleyes:

Pawwed Rig · 07-06-2016 08:10PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I'm betting some that posted outrage here wouldn't be so upset it the bouncer said no travellers. It's all wrong

Who posted outrage? Most people have said they don't believe the story. Even the OP has taken a more sceptical view since the start of the thread.

07-06-2016 08:10PM

Independent Newspapers, particularly in its Sunday variant, is by far the most awful in-bred rag in the 400-year-old history of Irish newspapers. No competition at all here. Think of those names: Harris, Fanning, Harris, Fanning, Cruise O'Brien, Kevin Myers, Dudley Edwards, Brendan O'Connor, John Drennan, Jody Corcoran, Harris, Fanning, Shane Ross, O'Hanlon - all sycophantic, unprincipled toerags (who are now mostly related to each other in some way thanks to the nepotism of the rags) doing the bidding for the agenda of whatever tax-dodging oligarch is currently paying their salaries.

This dredging the bottom of the pile story was published in aforesaid rag. If the OP could exercise his evidently considerable grá for the fight in aforesaid newsroom Ireland would immediately become a nicer, more honourable place.

stoplooklisten · 07-06-2016 08:13PM

was the doorman irish?

sabat · 07-06-2016 08:17PM

I can think of one establishment on the fringes of Temple Bar where this might have happened.

SEPT 23 1989 · 07-06-2016 08:20PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I can see possibly a racist doorman but I just find it difficult to believe that he told them why they weren't getting in. It's policy not to give a reason.
I agree lots of Irish are racist

When the were on Liveline today they said that the manager of the establishment was called to the door and he agreed with the bouncer that indeed no blacks were allowed in

Now unless there is a new club opened in Temple Bar run by the Ku Klux Klan I don't believe a word of this

Strumms · 07-06-2016 08:21PM

I'd be very suspicious of this story. Any establishment in Temple Bar want's money in the till. Pure and simple. greed holes.

They wont risk their reputation by way of having a racist door policy. They care about the color of money not skin.

If there was a racist door policy they would be more clever then to admit it on the door.

Without the naming of the establishment I call bull**** on this story. Why not name them ? Hardly libelous if there were witness as the article suggests.

TheQuietFella · 07-06-2016 08:30PM

Cade Skinny Ginkgo wrote: »

The story appears HERE

They were probably refused service probably due to having one too
many and played the 'is it because I'm black' card.

taytobreath · 07-06-2016 08:30PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I'd say Joe was tearing the wire off himself over this.

hahahhaha brilliant, heaavent heard that one in yeaRS

smurgen · 07-06-2016 08:31PM

Did they name the place? If not it's bull****

stoplooklisten · 07-06-2016 08:35PM

from the indo article

He came told us about the admissions policy, and said they have a right to not disclose the reasons why they deny access to people,” she said.

if they didn't disclose the reasons...?

Maireadio · 07-06-2016 09:36PM

Cade Skinny Ginkgo wrote: »

My gut instinct is rage.

Not a particularly healthy emotion to have as an instinctual one.

4ensic15 · 07-06-2016 09:37PM

stoplooklisten wrote: »

from the indo article

He came told us about the admissions policy, and said they have a right to not disclose the reasons why they deny access to people,” she said.

if they didn't disclose the reasons...?

The manager didn't disclose the reasons, the bouncer did.

strandroad · 07-06-2016 09:40PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

When the were on Liveline today they said that the manager of the establishment was called to the door and he agreed with the bouncer that indeed no blacks were allowed in

Now unless there is a new club opened in Temple Bar run by the Ku Klux Klan I don't believe a word of this

I only heard parts of the story but from they were saying the manager did not spell out a no blacks policy, he just said that the bouncer is there 13 years and his word is the policy, without going into any detail.

KingBrian2 · 07-06-2016 09:53PM

Don't know which is worse that a blatantly racist act took place in the middle of a cosmopolitan city or tabloid journalism is replacing actual facts & storytelling as real news.

Jester252 · 07-06-2016 09:59PM

“Last night we got calls saying it’s pointless, there’s nothing we can do because it’s not a criminal offence,”
Issue 1: It is a criminal offence
Issue 2: They got a call back for a Garda

07-06-2016 10:06PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Don't know which is worse that a blatantly racist act took place in the middle of a cosmopolitan city or tabloid journalism is replacing actual facts & storytelling as real news.

Gaining traction it seems. On the Irish Times website since 20.30.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/student-alleges-pub-refused-entry-saying-no-black-people-allowed-1.2676014

arybvtcw0eolkf · 07-06-2016 10:11PM

Back from training, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's the last time I try to be a left-wing cry baby getting his knickers in a twist over a non story like this.

[training always makes me feel better]

Back to my old self again :pac: ~ I still like punching people, but usually they're training partners and they're trying to punch me back

Apologizes, carry on people

K.Flyer · 07-06-2016 10:12PM

Being, Errr...discussed on FM104 now.

The_Valeyard · 07-06-2016 10:12PM

K.Flyer wrote: »

Being, Errr...discussed on FM104 now.

'discussed'

The One Doctor · 07-06-2016 10:13PM

Cade Skinny Ginkgo wrote: »

My gut instinct is rage.

You don't actually need to hit people to be recognised as a man nowadays.

rubadub · 07-06-2016 10:28PM

Article said this

They immediately headed to the Garda station, and were asked to return on Tuesday to make a statement.

“Last night we got calls saying it’s pointless, there’s nothing we can do because it’s not a criminal offence,” Ezile said.

Strange the gardai would say that.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/man-refused-entry-to-pub-is-awarded-1-500-1.1091873

A complaint by a non-national that he was refused admission to a Dublin pub on the grounds of race has been upheld by an equality officer.
The complaint was made to the director of equality investigations under the Equal Status Act, 2000. The equality officer ordered that the owners of the pub, the Turk's Head on Parliament Street, pay Mr Sajjad Sajjadi €1,500 for the "distress, humiliation and loss of amenity suffered". Mr Sajjadi, from Azerbaijan, came to live in Ireland eight years ago. An Irish citizen, he is studying at Bolton Street College of Technology.
He claimed that in September 2001 he was refused admission to the pub by a doorman, despite producing a student ID card showing that he was 33. He insisted that he had been refused admission because of his race.
The pub's management rejected the claim that it operated a discriminatory policy against anyone. They claimed that it had a policy of only accepting Garda age cards or passports as proof of identification and that Mr Sajjadi was refused admission because he could produce neither.

and in that case the bouncers never even said they were refusing him because he was black. If they did utter those words in the recent case I would question if it was sarcastic, like an Ali G thing. Like if I asked "is it coz I's white"

Strumms · 07-06-2016 10:30PM

It's a non story.. Like me starting a thread... I was punched by a bouncer outside a club last Wednesday.... what use is that to anyone ? if you want to be taken seriously.. and don't get me wrong if what was reported is true it is very serious indeed and should taken as so... but when you only give half the story its pointless... full facts or nothing it lacks credibility otherwise.. surprised the paper ran with it... or.. no wait im not actually

strandroad · 07-06-2016 10:34PM

Strumms wrote: »

It's a non story.. Like me starting a thread... I was punched by a bouncer outside a club last Wednesday.... what use is that to anyone ? if you want to be taken seriously.. and don't get me wrong if what was reported is true it is very serious indeed and should taken as so... but when you only give half the story its pointless... full facts or nothing it lacks credibility otherwise.. surprised the paper ran with it... or.. no wait im not actually

In fairness you can't win in such cases. Had they named the business it would be all about them ruining someone's business with allegations. I see it as a much more reasonable approach to withhold the name until there is some proof or reaction.

"No blacks allowed"

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