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"No blacks allowed"

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  • #32
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Is this accusation verifiable in any way whatsoever?
    I'd say Joe was tearing the wire off himself over this.


  • #33
    VincePP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 982 ✭✭✭VincePP


    ScienceNerd wrote: »
    I'd like to think it was a bouncer being a prick rather than an actual policy of the premises.

    If it's in Temple Bar you'd imagine they're heavily dependant on tourists.

    True, however the manager could have allowed them in when they spoke to him but he sided with the bouncer.

    Also it wasn't exactly late night - it was 7pm.

    Yes, bouncer being a prick, but manager being an utter assh0le


  • #34
    VincePP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 982 ✭✭✭VincePP


    moloner4 wrote: »
    Hmmmm inside the busiest tourist area? If it is true I'm shocked, but I'm not convinced this happened. Garda not doing anything about racism they said? Much more to this story than to the article.

    Its not a criminal matter, so gardai cannot do anything.


  • #35
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    i reckon it was something akin to this


  • #36
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    But then why would the lady (she was on Joe Duffy earlier today) make up a story which could easily be disproved (I'd imagine).

    Looking to go to court for a payday?


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  • #37
    kyogger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭kyogger


    melekalikimaka wrote: »
    a ridiculous article, every pub in temple bar allows black people in.

    Unfortunately


  • #38
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    kyogger wrote: »
    Unfortunately

    http://i.imgur.com/wgZ1HRl.gif


  • #39
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Is this accusation verifiable in any way whatsoever?
    I'd say Joe was tearing the wire off himself over this.

    No, that's the point.
    - No full names of people involved
    - No name of pub involved
    - No time at which incident is said to have happened
    - No images of people involved ("stock photo: alcohol" - really?! :D)

    When there's that much information lacking you can be damn sure there's a reason for it, and that reason is that the story is bull****. Probably actors paid by RTE to call Liveline and generate a fuss (FM104 used to do it, not sure now) and the Indo were fooled by it.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #40
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    management go out of their way not to mention the reason why they don't want you on the the premises because they can be taken to the cleaners by law

    No blacks as a reason??

    yeah right

    I'm sure we will see a quango starting some campaign or other over the next few days

    Probably a coincidence


  • #41
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    This story happens all the time no matter what colour a person is. There I was a few years ago just about to walk into eddy rockets sober to have some food but I was stopped at the entrance by two black bouncers, big guys indeed, so I asked why and they just said no, you cannot come in here, so I just left and went to Mc Donalds and had no problem getting in there.

    Do I think the bouncers in my case were racist ? maybe they were, who knows, but you didn't see me complaining to the news-papers about being refused entry by two black bouncers, because it just happens every-one now and again.

    I also find it very hard to believe that a bouncer in temple bar would say this with tons of witnesses there. We're all missing a lot more detail in this case in my opinion.


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  • #42
    20Cent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    This story happens all the time no matter what colour a person is. There I was a few years ago just about to walk into eddy rockets sober to have some food but I was stopped at the entrance by two black bouncers, big guys indeed, so I asked why and they just said no, you cannot come in here, so I just left and went to Mc Donalds and had no problem getting in there.

    Do I think the bouncers in my case were racist ? maybe they were, who knows, but you didn't see me complaining to the news-papers about being refused entry by two black bouncers, because it just happens every-one now and again.

    I also find it very hard to believe that a bouncer in temple bar would say this with tons of witnesses there. We're all missing a lot more detail in this case in my opinion.

    What did you get in McDonalds?
    Quarter pounder?


  • #43
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,033 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Cade Skinny Ginkgo wrote: »
    "No black people allowed" ~ if I was witness to something like this I think I'd punch someone in the mouth.

    The problem is you lower yourself to their level

    EVENFLOW



  • #44
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Some bouncers have lots of power, but no brains.

    Anyway, bouncers have to be vetted and accreditted now under some law or other.

    And, there is no way anyone would stop someone going into a premises because of race/colour anymore. But they can be deprived admission for other things other than race etc.

    There is more to this story.


  • #45
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Looking to go to court for a payday?

    That was the nub of the radio interview. Their solicitor was with them on the call and said I. SA they could sue for damages and was surprised they couldn't here given the trauma and emotional hurt they received.


  • #46
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    20Cent wrote: »
    What did you get in McDonalds?
    Quarter pounder?

    No, a half pounder with cheese and fries, man I was starving.


  • #47
    Michah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Michah


    Cade Skinny Ginkgo wrote: »
    But then why would the lady (she was on Joe Duffy earlier today) make up a story which could easily be disproved (I'd imagine).

    Put fake hate crimes into Google and read away. It's not that uncommon for people to make up stuff like this.

    People are nuts.


  • #48
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Leah Pitiful Fax wrote: »
    That was the nub of the radio interview. Their solicitor was with them on the call and said I. SA they could sue for damages and was surprised they couldn't here given the trauma and emotional hurt they received.

    You can sue here one wonderful section of Irish society has that market all to themselves

    That's why no manager would back up a bouncer after saying no blacks


  • #49
    scream
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 430 ✭✭scream


    I call bull sh!t on this story. Somebody called Liveline claiming to be a black person who was refused entry to a bar in Dublin. Do we have any photos of these alleged victims of racism, or any evidence whatsoever that it even happened? There are a lot of black people in Ireland and if there were a racist policy at any bar or club in Dublin we'd have heard a lot more about it.


  • #50
    stoplooklisten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    is anyone baking a cake for the occasion?


  • #51
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Cade Skinny Ginkgo wrote: »
    The story appears HERE



    I'm actually lost for words, sickened.

    Of course there's only one side of this story being told, and I'd love to hear the premises justify this policy or at least the policy of the security company supplying the door staff (if its contracted out).

    "No black people allowed" ~ if I was witness to something like this I think I'd punch someone in the mouth.

    So you'd assault someone rather than go through legal channels?


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  • #52
    sligojoek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Is this accusation verifiable in any way whatsoever?
    I'd say Joe was tearing the wire off himself over this.
    Joe wasn't on today. He's on his third two week holiday this year.


  • #53
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    We discriminat against our too unfortunately. I'm betting some that posted outrage here wouldn't be so upset it the bouncer said no travellers. It's all wrong


  • #54
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Just off averages Id say that bouncer alone has let in dozens of black people into the pub before. Irelands population is nearly 2% black I think, probably higher in Dublin. We get plenty of black tourists from USA , Canada, Britain , France and some african nations such as SA. They would all go to temple bar and probably lots visited that bar and were let in.
    If there was a popular tourist bar in dublin city centre operating with a no blacks policy we most certainly would have heard about it by now


  • #55
    Elemonator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    Never seen anything like this. I know you get some nice bouncers and some other ones who love to throw their weight around. But if this was true, it wouldn't be a non-story.


  • #56
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Cade Skinny Ginkgo wrote: »
    The story appears HERE



    I'm actually lost for words, sickened.

    Of course there's only one side of this story being told, and I'd love to hear the premises justify this policy or at least the policy of the security company supplying the door staff (if its contracted out).

    "No black people allowed" ~ if I was witness to something like this I think I'd punch someone in the mouth.

    This story can't be true. Not because the Irish are such anti-racist darlings, they're not but I can't envisage any bouncer, no matter how thick, saying something like that. I just can't.


  • #57
    FTA69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Cade Skinny Ginkgo wrote: »
    The story appears HERE



    I'm actually lost for words, sickened.

    Of course there's only one side of this story being told, and I'd love to hear the premises justify this policy or at least the policy of the security company supplying the door staff (if its contracted out).

    "No black people allowed" ~ if I was witness to something like this I think I'd punch someone in the mouth.

    You've been a doorman for yonks, these sort of racist entry policies are common across a variety of pubs but obviously never as explicit. I've lost count of the amount of places I've heard complaints about the crowd not being "regulated" tightly enough e.g too many Eastern Europeans, too many Africans etc. Maybe that's a less common attitude in Dublin than it is Cork though.


  • #58
    Your Face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Frynge wrote: »
    I assume there was already one black on the premises. John black, from Gort.

    I'd ban that yoke myself.


  • #59
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Cade Skinny Ginkgo wrote: »
    Here's where I'm conflicted.

    I always go by 'Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear' ~ Bruce Lee.

    But then why would the lady (she was on Joe Duffy earlier today) make up a story which could easily be disproved (I'd imagine).

    My gut instinct is rage.

    Seems your gut instinct is smashing your fist into someone's face.

    Bruce wouldn't be impressed, Grasshopper.


  • #60
    Winterlong
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    I always doubt people who run to the papers with some gripe or other. Personally I doubt this happened and reckon they were refused entry for some other reason but chose to interpret it as racist.


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  • #61
    frozenfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    sorry lads you aren't getting in

    IS IT COZ WE ARE BLAK

    [sarcasm] yes, it's because you're black [/sarcasm]

    and the story was born


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