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I attended a Sex Party/ Orgy

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Discodog wrote: »
    The funny thing is there was a plain black door at the side of the chipper. I rang the bell & a big bouncer opened the door. I said that I was invited & he ushered me in. He then called down the people that invited me to verify that I was genuine.

    There was no hint on the outside regarding what was upstairs.

    Nothing sexier than the smell of salt 'n vinegar!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    I have to say I find it odd that it's called a party. The fact you have to pay, makes it sound like a brothel.

    And even odder when it's said that only women approach men. When men pay to go ask for sex, it's definitely called a brothel.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Nothing sexier than the smell of salt 'n vinegar!

    It was really nice upstairs. I think that it used to be a casino - lots of velvet. I nearly didn't ring the bell because it looked so dodgy. You are also aware of the people in the chipper giving you knowing looks :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    When men pay to go ask for sex, it's definitely called a brothel.

    The difference being that at a sex party the man is asking for sex, not buying it.

    Anybody at the party is presumably free to accept or turn down any advances made on them. I would presume prostitutes in brothels don't have that luxury of choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    The difference being that at a sex party the man is asking for sex, not buying it.

    Anybody at the party is presumably free to accept or turn down any advances made on them. I would presume prostitutes in brothels don't have that luxury of choice.

    At this party, he had to pay to get in, and was not allowed to ask.

    He could only accept or refuse an offer. So yes, he was buying it.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    Pics or GTFO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    I think this kinda thing would bring out the uber-Irish conservative in me. "Jesus mary and joseph Sam don't look now but the couple over there are completely starkers! Oh christ, what's he doing to her..."

    I'd probably try to befriend the Irish couples and find out that we both know Jimmy from Athlone, make my excuses and leave in a blind panic.

    All sounds a bit exhausting though in all seriousness. Much rather an early night with some pizza, bottle of wine and a boxset.


  • Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I must say I would be most curious. Perhaps I'll have a chat with one of my male friends. I would feel too nervous to go alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Discodog wrote: »
    It was really nice upstairs. I think that it used to be a casino - lots of velvet. I nearly didn't ring the bell because it looked so dodgy. You are also aware of the people in the chipper giving you knowing looks :pac:
    Was there shag carpet?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭2RockMountain


    I wonder if some of the ladies were high class escorts just to jizz things up a little ?

    FYP.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭HornyDevil


    Discodog wrote: »
    The funny thing is there was a plain black door at the side of the chipper.

    As I speak there are hordes of men checking out Northampton chip shops for a black side door. Sure and there's your chip shop owners trembling by their fryers thinking it's the VAT or Revenue.

    Discodog wrote: »
    It was really nice upstairs. I think that it used to be a casino - lots of velvet.

    I hear your velvet is the worst material for getting stains out of. I'll wager the seating looked like it was snail armageddon afterwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    At this party, he had to pay to get in, and was not allowed to ask.

    He could only accept or refuse an offer. So yes, he was buying it.

    Well he's not guaranteed it so he's not buying it. He's buying entrance to a place where he may get propositioned.

    If you can't see the difference between this swingers party and a brothel then I really can't do anything for you mate. It's a pretty clear distinction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Well he's not guaranteed it so he's not buying it. He's buying entrance to a place where he may get propositioned.

    If you can't see the difference between this swingers party and a brothel then I really can't do anything for you mate. It's a pretty clear distinction.

    We'll agree to disagree.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Two Tone


    StudentDad wrote: »
    How is this thread still going? Some stamina :) Anyway, some of the shock horror replies make me laugh. How many people have been at a 'regular' function, a wedding, night on the town, etc etc and have copped a feel, had a quickie or one night stand on their merry nights out? Yet when someone suggests attending a party where sex is definitely an option if the parties are willing, have a problem with it? A little hypocritical much? :)

    SD
    From my reading of the thread, there doesn't seem to be that much shock/disapproval. How does having one-night stands but being shocked by orgies (and this is just a hypothetical by you - it isn't based on any specific posts) mean hypocrisy? A one-night stand and a sex party both involve sex obviously but they are quite different otherwise - the numbers and the exhibitionism being the key differences.
    An orgy/sex party would really not appeal to me (a threesome would not either - one partner at a time is enough, I think! :)) and some of what would go on would shock me a little too (it wouldn't be honest to suggest it is an everyday, run-of-the-mill thing) - that is just my opinion though, I don't feel others should agree with me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭LorMal


    StudentDad wrote: »
    Yawn :|

    SD

    You left out the O.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    everlast75 wrote: »
    I was thinking more Eyes Wide Shut myself...

    Legs Wide Open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭StudentDad


    Two Tone wrote: »
    From my reading of the thread, there doesn't seem to be that much shock/disapproval. How does having one-night stands but being shocked by orgies (and this is just a hypothetical by you - it isn't based on any specific posts) mean hypocrisy? A one-night stand and a sex party both involve sex obviously but they are quite different otherwise - the numbers and the exhibitionism being the key differences.
    An orgy/sex party would really not appeal to me (a threesome would not either - one partner at a time is enough, I think! :)) and some of what would go on would shock me a little too (it wouldn't be honest to suggest it is an everyday, run-of-the-mill thing) - that is just my opinion though, I don't feel others should agree with me.

    I suppose I look at it in a fairly straightforward manner. I've been to parties, nite clubs etc over the years and frankly the only difference between some of those parties and specifically organised parties for sex, is that the organisers and participants of the latter are totally upfront about it. There isn't a question about sex. It's there if the parties involved are willing. What other people choose to do doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the pretense that sex does not occur outside of specifically organised parties. At least at such parties the participants aren't pretending. They're there for the social aspect that happens to have a larger sexual element. So, it begs the question, what's the big deal? Given that many people have been to parties where sex has occurred. I know I have. I've been at parties where one half of a relationship has played offside with their partner none the wiser. At least with a couple freely consenting to sexual activities at organised parties, they are at least on the same page so to speak.

    SD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Two Tone


    StudentDad wrote: »
    I suppose I look at it in a fairly straightforward manner. I've been to parties, nite clubs etc over the years and frankly the only difference between some of those parties and specifically organised parties for sex, is that the organisers and participants of the latter are totally upfront about it. There isn't a question about sex. It's there if the parties involved are willing. What other people choose to do doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the pretense that sex does not occur outside of specifically organised parties. At least at such parties the participants aren't pretending. They're there for the social aspect that happens to have a larger sexual element. So, it begs the question, what's the big deal? Given that many people have been to parties where sex has occurred. I know I have. I've been at parties where one half of a relationship has played offside with their partner none the wiser. At least with a couple freely consenting to sexual activities at organised parties, they are at least on the same page so to speak.

    SD
    I think a private sexual encounter with one person is extremely different to a relatively crowded party where everyone is naked, people (including those in relationships - and I know these would be open relationships) are having sex with a few others one after the other - or at the same time, people are having sex in front of others who are masturbating to it, there is partner-swapping, and so on. That is all too full-on and kinda intimidating for many people (I would reckon most people? It is pretty niche - I know it isn't the rarest thing in the world either, but it is not your everyday thing). I don't think it's accurate just to say there is sex on offer. There is sex on offer in lots of situations but they don't involve the voyeurism and orgies.

    I am not saying there is anything wrong with the second scenario (well I would seriously not be into it but those who partake are very much into it) but I don't think it is comparable to just a one-night stand on a night out, at a wedding, etc. Plenty of people go to those events in the hope of having sex, so while it might not be as planned out as a sex party, we know there is a chance of it happening on a night out, at an event and so on. I don't think anyone is saying otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭StudentDad


    Two Tone wrote: »
    I think a private sexual encounter with one person is extremely different to a relatively crowded party where everyone is naked, people (including those in relationships - and I know these would be open relationships) are having sex with a few others one after the other - or at the same time, people are having sex in front of others who are masturbating to it, there is partner-swapping, and so on. That is all too full-on and kinda intimidating for many people (I would reckon most people? It is pretty niche - I know it isn't the rarest thing in the world either, but it is not your everyday thing). I don't think it's accurate just to say there is sex on offer. There is sex on offer in lots of situations but they don't involve the voyeurism and orgies.

    I am not saying there is anything wrong with the second scenario (well I would seriously not be into it but those who partake are very much into it) but I don't think it is comparable to just a one-night stand on a night out, at a wedding, etc. Plenty of people go to those events in the hope of having sex, so while it might not be as planned out as a sex party, we know there is a chance of it happening on a night out, at an event and so on. I don't think anyone is saying otherwise.

    For the most part I'd agree that the majority at a 'typical' party may be uncomfortable with overt sexual display. Although, living in Ireland leaves me with the distinct impression that when it comes to sexuality we're not as open about it as we'd like. Yes at run of the mill weddings etc things can get very 'untraditional' for wont of a better phrase. What always surprises me is the 'shock horror' response to someone being upfront and forthright about their sexual history or preferences. In too many instances it's almost like the elephant in the room. We all know it's there, but it'll never be mentioned. I knew a couple years ago who were into the lifestyle and the only reason they told me was that they knew I'd keep my mouth shut. I never felt the need to partake myself, I'm a very one man one woman type of guy. It just doesn't bother me what other adults choose to do with their leisure time. Not my business. Which is why I don't get why to an extent here there is a level of pisstaking and faux shock. I just wish that as a country we could be more open minded in terms of sexual activity. Yes things are changing. Feck when I was growing up the mere mention of sex in the wrong company would get you lynched.

    SD


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 513 ✭✭✭Two Tone


    StudentDad wrote: »
    For the most part I'd agree that the majority at a 'typical' party may be uncomfortable with overt sexual display. Although, living in Ireland leaves me with the distinct impression that when it comes to sexuality we're not as open about it as we'd like. Yes at run of the mill weddings etc things can get very 'untraditional' for wont of a better phrase. What always surprises me is the 'shock horror' response to someone being upfront and forthright about their sexual history or preferences. In too many instances it's almost like the elephant in the room. We all know it's there, but it'll never be mentioned. I knew a couple years ago who were into the lifestyle and the only reason they told me was that they knew I'd keep my mouth shut. I never felt the need to partake myself, I'm a very one man one woman type of guy. It just doesn't bother me what other adults choose to do with their leisure time. Not my business. Which is why I don't get why to an extent here there is a level of pisstaking and faux shock. I just wish that as a country we could be more open minded in terms of sexual activity. Yes things are changing. Feck when I was growing up the mere mention of sex in the wrong company would get you lynched.

    SD
    It's kinda a contradictory place we're in I think. On the one hand, as you say, there is shock expressed at adventurous sexual pursuits but on the other hand, a person who isn't sexual is considered weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭StudentDad


    Two Tone wrote: »
    It's kinda a contradictory place we're in I think. On the one hand, as you say, there is shock expressed at adventurous sexual pursuits but on the other hand, a person who isn't sexual is considered weird.

    Exactly. On the one hand if you're not out shagging the nearest available, you're weird and god help you if you are and are up front and honest about it.

    SD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    Best thread in a long time, what a hoot!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,586 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Best thread in a long time, what a hoot!

    Can we get back to the topic: what's an Ulster fry?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭HornyDevil


    Can we get back to the topic: what's an Ulster fry?

    A small fish in Lough Neagh.

    Some people. Dumb.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 Soft Boiled


    I went to one of these a good few years ago when I lived in London with my then partner.
    She was very sexually adventurous, always into trying new things. We spent a while discussing it and our 'ground rules' before we went. She did most of the organising. I think we paid about £100 to attend as a couple. The house was in a very posh part of central London. I always remember the carpet, it was snow white and incredible plush and thinking 'I better not spill any red wine on this'.

    There was a mix of other people there, mostly couples and small groups of women - no single men. They ranged in age from mid-20's to early 50's and they all would have been fairly attractive. Everyone was dressed really well in evening wear, but as the night wore on people began to disrobe. Most of the women wore, what looked like, very expensive lingerie.
    We spent the first couple of hours just chatting - we were asked by 2 or 3 different couples if we were interested in joining them in one of the bedrooms but we politely declined - didn't feel there was any pressure or anything.

    I didn't think my fragile ego would be able to handle seeing a big stud pounding away on my partner, so we had agreed that we'd only ask another woman to join us I we met someone nice.
    We eventually got chatting to a girl from Southend who introduced herself as Charlotte, she said she worked in promotions and was about 30 I would guess. Seemed very nice and friendly and she said she'd been attending parties like this for the last number of years. She first went with her boyfriend, but even after they had split up she still went occasionally - 2 or 3 times a years she said.

    I think she sensed that we were a bit new and nervous to the whole thing so she took control, grapping a bottle of bubbly and suggesting we head upstairs for a little fun.

    There were about 6 or 7 bedrooms upstairs, you could go into any that had the doors open and look or ask to join in - there were a couple of rooms with the doors closed and a ribbon tied to the handle, which apparently meant they were being privately used. We went into one room where there was about three couples intertwined on a really big bed doing all manner of things to each other. I could tell my partner was getting really turned on and when Charlotte suggested we retire to a room on our own she didn't take much convincing.

    We spent a very pleasant hour together - or at least it was for me. Before the party, my partner had said that if we ended up with another woman I could do whatever I liked. I took her at her word. Maybe in retrospect I spent a little too much time focusing on Charlotte - but she was very good looking, very skilled and I'd had a couple of glasses of champagne at this stage.

    It was only after myself and Charlotte had finished going at it for round 3 (I'd taken a couple of Viagra before hand thank Christ!) that I noticed my partner was pretty quiet and withdrawn. We ended up leaving soon after and had a massive row in the cab on the way home - which weirdly enough ended up with us screwing in the kitchen of our apartment when we got in the door.

    We split up a few months later - I think the fantasy she had in her head didn't live up to the reality and her emotions ended up getting confused. On one level she was incredibly turned on by the whole thing, but on another level she couldn't handle seeing me with other women. I did suggest that we could try again, but that this time I'd either only watch or concentrate on her - but although she considered it, we never followed through.

    So, it didn't work out great for us in the end. I still think we would have split up anyway and I never regretted that evening or meeting the lovely, and sexually voracious Charlotte.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    I have to say I find it odd that it's called a party. The fact you have to pay, makes it sound like a brothel.

    And even odder when it's said that only women approach men. When men pay to go ask for sex, it's definitely called a brothel.

    Exactly, at the end of the day it is prostitution - albeit indirectly ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Mr.JB1986 wrote: »
    ... but they really were the Dublin 4, master-race stereotype...

    Wasn't there a safe house out in Templeogue?:pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 37 Soft Boiled


    Exactly, at the end of the day it is prostitution - albeit indirectly ..

    It's not really.

    We paid £100 to attend and there was free food and drink. I'm sure some of the money went towards the house owners and to cleaning costs afterwards.

    I very much doubt that any of the people there were paid to attend - certainly none of the people I talked to.

    Prostitution, is by its very nature, exploitive, but this was very different.

    The women I met there were very confident and seemed to be in control of proceedings.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    The best thing to do is take a tip from Borat and walk up behind the men while they're pounding some chick and start whispering in their ear telling them that they're doing a good job and give them a pat on the back.


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