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At what point does right wing just mean racist/d1ck/heartless baxtard?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Left is losing numbers big time, in every country.

    The left went mad with power.

    Not in Ireland, it isn't. There are more left-wing TDs in the Dáil right now than at any other time in the history of the state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    RayM wrote: »
    Not in Ireland, it isn't. There are more left-wing TDs in the Dáil right now than at any other time in the history of the state.



    Give it time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    At what point does right wing just mean racist/d1ck/heartless baxtard?

    I dunno...at what point does voting Labour in the UK make you a heartless, Anti-Semitic baxtard?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Far left and Far right are on the same level of the asshole scale as each other but don't realise they are.

    Again I completely agree.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    RayM wrote: »
    Not in Ireland, it isn't. There are more left-wing TDs in the Dáil right now than at any other time in the history of the state.

    I think you'll find there's less than last time. Vote share down as well.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    K-9 wrote: »
    I think you'll find there's less than last time. Vote share down as well.

    I think that depends on whether you count a Labour party that went into coalition with Fine Gael as 'left-wing'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    RayM wrote: »
    I've never encountered a right-wing person who I didn't find very unpleasant and completely incapable of empathy. Whatever the issue, it's like their first instinct is "Ok, what's the most obnoxious opinion I could possibly express right now?" Absolute dicks.

    You know that comment makes you a bigot? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    You know that comment makes you a bigot? ;)

    Maybe it just means that I've been unlucky. Lots of lovely, kind right-wingers out there, but I've never met them. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    RayM wrote: »
    Maybe it just means that I've been unlucky. Lots of lovely, kind right-wingers out there, but I've never met them. :(



    Maybe and if's are here or there :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Sand wrote: »
    To be honest the left are more often violent and aggressive. All people on the right ask are for others to leave them alone, earn your own money and stop trying to tell them what they ought to think.
    "All people on the right ask are for others to leave them alone". - Nah the right tend to want to interfere with what people do in the bedroom, what women do with their bodies and what people do in their spare time.

    The left piss me off at times but the right wing just make life harder for lots of people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    K-9 wrote: »
    I think you'll find there's less than last time. Vote share down as well.
    You sure about that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    It's a hand of aces to people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    "All people on the right ask are for others to leave them alone". - Nah the right tend to want to interfere with what people do in the bedroom, what women do with their bodies and what people do in their spare time.

    The left piss me off at times but the right wing just make life harder for lots of people.

    Don't confuse the Religious Loonies with us proper Right-Wing Assholes. I don't give a monkey's what anyone does in the bedroom as long as I'm not expected to pay for it, or the result. And I expect that same basic courtesy reciprocated! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    RayM wrote: »
    I think that depends on whether you count a Labour party that went into coalition with Fine Gael as 'left-wing'.

    The people who voted for them saw them as left wing. Anyway I've been following politics for 30 years and if I'd a euro for every time there was talk of a new dawn for the left...

    The Left had their big chance in 2011 and couldn't build on it, and in fact lost votes to FF and Independents.

    So you're left with a problem, people don't want harder left parties and those they do, like Labour, aren't left enough for you! And the hard left ones like AAA aren't interested in Government.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    K-9 wrote: »
    ...So you're left with a problem...

    Arf-Arf! Fantastic... :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Permabear wrote: »
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    I don't think everyone whose opinion differs from mine is any of those things. When I use the term 'right-winger', I'm referring to the kind of dreadful bores for whom every opinion has to be an expression of their no-nonsense, empathy-is-for-pussies, right-wing credentials. You don't see many of those people on Boards because they inevitably get themselves banned and then devote the rest of their sorry, dreary little lives to re-registering and moaning about how unfairly they've been treated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    RayM wrote: »
    I don't think everyone whose opinion differs from mine is any of those things. When I use the term 'right-winger', I'm referring to the kind of dreadful bores for whom every opinion has to be an expression of their no-nonsense, empathy-is-for-pussies, right-wing credentials. You don't see many of those people on Boards because they inevitably get themselves banned and then devote the rest of their sorry, dreary little lives to re-registering and moaning about how unfairly they've been treated.


    Boards is dying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    RayM wrote: »
    I don't think everyone whose opinion differs from mine is any of those things. When I use the term 'right-winger', I'm referring to the kind of dreadful bores for whom every opinion has to be an expression of their no-nonsense, empathy-is-for-pussies, right-wing credentials. You don't see many of those people on Boards because they inevitably get themselves banned and then devote the rest of their sorry, dreary little lives to re-registering and moaning about how unfairly they've been treated.

    You're mis-labelling them. These characters have no Right-Wing credentials - they're all posting in their underpants from their bedroom in their mother's house while combing last night's pizza out of their beard. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    jimgoose wrote: »
    You're mis-labelling them. These characters have no Right-Wing credentials - they're all posting in their skid mark underpants from their bedroom in their mother's house while combing last night's pizza out of their beard. :D
    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Michah


    There's a growing trend of young people in Ireland, especially some students, who have become infatuated with the US political scene. Going on about, left wing/right wing, SJWs, "black lives matter", white-privilege, reverse racism, Cis, Trump etc. All the while trying to link it in to Ireland.

    This is not a good thing. Look at America. An extremely polarised country at present and the current political arena is beyond satire. We should not be following their lead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Michah wrote: »
    There's a growing trend of young people in Ireland, especially some students, who have become infatuated with the US political scene. Going on about, left wing/right wing, SJWs, "black lives matter", white-privilege, reverse racism, Cis, Trump etc. All the while trying to link it to Ireland.

    This is not a good thing. Look at America. An extremely polarised country at present and the current political arena is beyond satire. We should not be following their lead.

    Where do they read all this stuff? Reddit?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Don't confuse the Religious Loonies with us proper Right-Wing Assholes. I don't give a monkey's what anyone does in the bedroom as long as I'm not expected to pay for it, or the result. And I expect that same basic courtesy reciprocated! :D
    Well sheit don't confuse the left with ultra SJW types either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,806 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Michah wrote: »
    There's a growing trend of young people in Ireland, especially some students, who have become infatuated with the US political scene. Going on about, left wing/right wing, SJWs, "black lives matter", white-privilege, reverse racism, Cis, Trump etc. All the while trying to link it in to Ireland.

    This is not a good thing. Look at America. An extremely polarised country at present and the current political arena is beyond satire. We should not be following their lead.

    Ya let's stick with good old FG here.

    I always laugh at Irish people saying they (Americans) haven't a clue and deserve everything they get if the vote in Trump.

    But yet in Ireland we are freaking fantastic, like **** we are.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    jimgoose wrote: »
    You're mis-labelling them. These characters have no Right-Wing credentials - they're all posting in their underpants from their bedroom in their mother's house while combing last night's pizza out of their beard. :D

    I think you meant couscous. We're not animals!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,019 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,011 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    I was careful not to mention religion. I was afraid you wanted to get list in those weeds. So since you went off talking about religion anyway, could I suggest that you read what I actually said and maybe respond to that instead please?



    That's one hypothesis and I would agree with it. I would refine it and bring it back to my earlier pisition which is that the majority of 'no' voters would be happy to consider themselves right of centre in the Irish context.

    There's a problem with your analysis, in that it involves ignoring that *all* organised political parties of all stripes supported a Yes vote. The only organised supporters of a No vote were religious organisations - The Iona Institute, the Irish Catholic Church, the Presbyterian Church etc. If you ignore that, you're going to come to some incorrect conclusions about who voted no and why.
    To clarify, if this is true it would disprove the hypothesis that the majority of people on the right of centre only want to be left alone and don't want to anyone telling anyone else what to do (I can't remember your original phrasing)

    How do you think its incompatible to demand others leave you alone and to otherwise leave other people alone in return?
    Sure if that's how you think it works in reality. Do you think more serif described people on the left or the right are cool with prostitution?

    I think very few people are 'cool' with prostitution. On the left for example, most modern feminist thought is practically intensely hostile to it and its often a target of left leaning governments trying to legislate away the prostitutes.
    You're talking about christians with yourself.

    I know, you're ignoring their views on the same sex referendum which is why you are drawing incorrect conclusions about the No vote.
    That shouldn't be surprising that empathy has such an impact on political leaning. I can't see why it's so difficult to understand.

    Rather than snipe at me, why don't you tell me what you think.

    I don't think there's any real link. Punishment and addressing root causes is not an either/or choice and in most cases, political groups pursue both. Both right and left parties imprison criminals and at the same time try to address the causes of crime by applying additional policing, educational and social service resources. They do so whilst maintaining the support of their bases.

    Lets face it, the left has a long tradition of non-empathic policies: there are infamous cases of social services taking children away from the parents for little or no reason.
    Norway’s child welfare services, the Barnevernet, seized Marius and Ruth Bodnariu’s two daughters, two sons and subsequently their baby, Ezekiel, the report said.

    Social services agents and police took the family’s two oldest children out of their school without their parents’ knowledge and hid them in an undisclosed location.

    Then the agents and officers went to the family’s home, “where, apparently without any documentation, they seized their two sons and arrested Ruth – who they took to the police station along with baby Ezekiel. Marius was arrested while he was at work and also taken into custody.”

    The parents were interrogated but later allowed to return home with their baby but no other children. Then the next day the baby also was seized, the report said.

    Weeks passed while the parents were denied contact with their children. They just were told that the children “had integrated well into their separate foster homes and didn’t miss their parents,” the institute reported.

    Finally, a lawyer obtained by the parents accessed some of the case documents and discovered the parents were accused of being “radical Christians who were indoctrinating their children.”

    I'm not really seeing the empathy link to socialist policies like the above.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,011 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    K-9 wrote: »
    @Sand, when political discussion gets reduced to left and right, context and nuances get lost. People should really stop doing that especially when they complain about others doing it to their own side, instead it seems to be only getting worse.

    True, I often seem descriptions of 'the right' that lump a random assortment of groups together with little or no common views or ideology, united only in that the person describing 'the right' dislikes them all. It takes some torturous logic to see the views of Libertarians and the Nationalist Socialists as being in anyway comparable or variations of each other.


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