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Buford T. Justice XIX · 06-06-2016 11:33AM

Aid package for German dairy farmers.

http://www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/news/aid-package-for-german-dairy-farmers.28841128

So the single market is broken now that different regions can offer aid while others cannot.

I'm beginning to think Irexit may be worth thinking about.

freedominacup · 06-06-2016 02:51PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Aid package for German dairy farmers.

http://www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/news/aid-package-for-german-dairy-farmers.28841128

So the single market is broken now that different regions can offer aid while others cannot.

I'm beginning to think Irexit may be worth thinking about.

Absolutely nothing stopping creed doing something similar but he's such a lightweight he's already in thrall to the senior civil servants.

Timmaay · 06-06-2016 03:17PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Aid package for German dairy farmers.

http://www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/news/aid-package-for-german-dairy-farmers.28841128

So the single market is broken now that different regions can offer aid while others cannot.

I'm beginning to think Irexit may be worth thinking about.

What I don't understand, if the likes of the big eu countries and USA etc produce the most of their milk for the domestic market, and only export the likes of 10% as powder to the world market, then why is their milk price hit so bad? The price of milk/dairy hasn't dropped in the shops right?, so do the processors use the world price as a stick to beat down the farmer gate price there?

whelan2 · 06-06-2016 07:41PM

Are people feeding any meal to milkers in this weather?

visatorro · 06-06-2016 07:49PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Are people feeding any meal to milkers in this weather?

Two kg of 14%.

whelan2 · 06-06-2016 07:50PM

visatorro wrote: »

Two kg of 14%.

just feeding heifers 2kg here for the last day or so, cows are on heavy covers

mahoney_j · 06-06-2016 10:27PM

4.4 kg fty of 14%

degetme · 06-06-2016 10:29PM

No meal with over three weeks. Goin back to two kg if wether gets unsettled

visatorro · 07-06-2016 12:12AM

20 litres , 3,55 fat , 3,45 pr , on a minority coalition government here atm. So without the political rubbish were happy enough

oxjkqg · 07-06-2016 09:31AM

PRot 3.43 Bfat 4.88 milking 26 litres on 1.5kg meal, not feeding meal everyday but tight on grass as badly need rain and have a lot of ground out for silage earlier and prob 10 days away from grazing this and taken out paddocks for bales, west clare

Milked out · 07-06-2016 09:49AM

Gone up to 4.5kg here stocked at 4.6. Grass slowed down on last 2 weeks, finished wet ground which had a good cover, back to dry ground now with a light poor quality cover. Last round of fert only waiting for rain on dry ground I'd say. Wwas at 2kg and they were holding at 27l at 3.42 p and 3.67bf. Haven't received solids results for 10 days now

yewtree · 07-06-2016 10:31AM

Feeding half kilo here (soya hulls/barley mix), more to help cow flow than anything. milking 26l 4.1 fat 3.5 protein, just over 2kg milk solids.

jaymla627 · 07-06-2016 11:02AM

5 kgs 14% nut fty cows sitting on 31 litres the last 4 weeks at 3.7bf 3.44 pr their on aftergrass at the minute and wouldnt like not to have them on meal grass is very rank and full of n due to dry weather, without the fibre in the beet pulp/soya hulls id say i would have a few cows with acidosis

freedominacup · 07-06-2016 02:03PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

5 kgs 14% nut fty cows sitting on 31 litres the last 4 weeks at 3.7bf 3.44 pr their on aftergrass at the minute and wouldnt like not to have them on meal grass is very rank and full of n due to dry weather, without the fibre in the beet pulp/soya hulls id say i would have a few cows with acidosis

Do you need 14% if as you say grass is rank with N? 3kg of 9% here for 28-29l on aftergrass as well.

whelan2 · 07-06-2016 02:05PM

How is maize doing under plastic? Would that heat affect it?

keep going · 07-06-2016 02:44PM

Grass seems to be grazing and keeping pr better than it looks(3.6and3.9bf) but a week could change that alot.if we dont get rain the end of the week we ll be going into ground that was just dropped out for silage, lucky we didnt wrap it

jaymla627 · 07-06-2016 03:24PM

freedominacup wrote: »

Do you need 14% if as you say grass is rank with N? 3kg of 9% here for 28-29l on aftergrass as well.

Alternating between aftergrass and strongish paddocks, so it evens out, anything that hasn't been mowed/topped is really poor quality, just in from walking the place and need to take out 40% of grazing block that hasn't been mowed next week.....
Even paddocks cut 14 days ago are starting to throw out seed heads, nightmare trying to keep quality up and not leave myself short if enough rain doesn't come, milk urea is staying around 22-25 so happy enough to keep a 14% nut in till grass quality sorts itself out

mahoney_j · 07-06-2016 03:28PM

whelan2 wrote: »

How is maize doing under plastic? Would that heat affect it?

Like liquid n for it ,crop of it under plastic not far from me and its powering through growth stages in last 2 weeks

mahoney_j · 07-06-2016 03:34PM

freedominacup wrote: »

Do you need 14% if as you say grass is rank with N? 3kg of 9% here for 28-29l on aftergrass as well.

On 14 here now feeding 4.3 kg and hitting 3.58 p and hovering around 31.5 ltrs .mowed again today but left one paddock which I'm going to pre now for cows .dry hot weather starting to hit and no point taking too much for bales and have to end up feeding them back out in a week or 10 days .we missed all the showers yesterday and thought itvwas going to puke rain this am but alas nothing 25 degrees and v hot now .

Buford T. Justice XIX · 07-06-2016 03:43PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

On 14 here now feeding 4.3 kg and hitting 3.58 p and hovering around 31.5 ltrs .mowed again today but left one paddock which I'm going to pre now for cows .dry hot weather starting to hit and no point taking too much for bales and have to end up feeding them back out in a week or 10 days .we missed all the showers yesterday and thought itvwas going to puke rain this am but alas nothing 25 degrees and v hot now .

We were shearing yesterday and had to move the wool before milking as there were drops.

Then the rain fecked off:(

I'm blaming Evelyn Cusack, she's promising us rain for the last 2 weeks and no sign of it.:mad:

mahoney_j · 07-06-2016 03:51PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

We were shearing yesterday and had to move the wool before milking as there were drops.

Then the rain fecked off:(

I'm blaming Evelyn Cusack, she's promising us rain for the last 2 weeks and no sign of it.:mad:

There's a lad around here that cuts silage /hay and if he moves to cut its a sure sign of bad weather and rain .he hasn't budged yet .......

Waffletraktor · 07-06-2016 05:24PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Like liquid n for it ,crop of it under plastic not far from me and its powering through growth stages in last 2 weeks

Who supplies liquid in your area/ what would be price per m3? Presume it's a low % urea based as An is banned in Ireland still?

yosemitesam1 · 07-06-2016 05:41PM

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Who supplies liquid in your area/ what would be price per m3? Presume it's a low % urea based as An is banned in Ireland still?

Dont think anyone sells it, a few of the veg lads mix their own afaik

mahoney_j · 07-06-2016 06:26PM

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Who supplies liquid in your area/ what would be price per m3? Presume it's a low % urea based as An is banned in Ireland still?

Sun + heat = like liquid n for maize what I meant

Waffletraktor · 07-06-2016 06:55PM

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Dont think anyone sells it, a few of the veg lads mix their own afaik

mahoney_j wrote: »

Sun + heat = like liquid n for maize what I meant

Ahh I get ye. With Yara putting in a depot from cork you might get liquid going forward, they bring it in super concentrated at 50+% N but it makes the 'specific gravity' crazy high so they dilute it down with water to fill a lorry rather than just have a system to mix it on farm in An form as urea is very hard to mix to 30+% you need heat and/constant mixing to store long term.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 07-06-2016 07:37PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

There's a lad around here that cuts silage /hay and if he moves to cut its a sure sign of bad weather and rain .he hasn't budged yet .......

Will ya head over to him and give the lad a bit of a nudge so?

I'll stand you a pint when I see you;)

pedigree 6 · 07-06-2016 09:06PM

Actually just thinking are lads spreading sulphar with their fert?
It's more important in dry conditions than at any time.
Can def see the difference in paddocks that got it here and slower to head out.

mahoney_j · 07-06-2016 09:29PM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Actually just thinking are lads spreading sulphar with their fert?
It's more important in dry conditions than at any time.
Can def see the difference in paddocks that got it here and slower to head out.

Been spreading it since late March ,all ground has gotten close to 28 units of s as of now .

pedigree 6 · 07-06-2016 09:42PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Been spreading it since late March ,all ground has gotten close to 28 units of s as of now .

That's a good bit. Only have 10 units spread here. But even can see difference with paddocks that got it and paddocks that got fert with no s.

RightTurnClyde · 07-06-2016 09:47PM

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Actually just thinking are lads spreading sulphar with their fert?
It's more important in dry conditions than at any time.
Can def see the difference in paddocks that got it here and slower to head out.

First cut silage ground gets ASN, grazing ground gets CAN +S or compound +S, from April on. I'd have nothing without it.

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