Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

billie holiday

There is huge capacity to meet demand for milk worldwide.
There appears to be no shortage of milk coming in the next year or so.

billie holiday

China ???
CHINA ???
Who knows what they'll buy in the neXT 5 Years.

whelan2

blackdog1 wrote: »

If you put licocin powder on the problem and bandage it you only have to apply once and cut bandage after a week. Totally clean.

Would you have to lift the foot?

briangriffin

Just wondering lads about putting 4 aa calves on 2 high cell count cows, plan on leaving them till septrmber and selling both cows and calves my question is should i bull the cows to aa and sell on as in calf or just leave them as cull cows in september what ye reckon?

browned

21 days of breeding up this morning. 98% of cows and 100% heifers submitted, no intervention just paint and Ai man. Hopefully the conception rates with oad will be higher.

coolshannagh28

Interesting that Coveney well connected and central to negotiations and hype for the last 5 years moves on from agriculture right now

Water John

My hunch Brian is, if you intend selling them, leave them empty. Buyer will want to fatten them.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Just had the vet here to handle a few cows that hadn't shown heat. All 5 were on heat but zero signs of bulling, tailpaint untouched and no chinball paint from the teasers.

I bulled 4 and will be serving again tomorrow, other one was a bit dirty so she got metricure.

I could understand one or two on heat and not showing but 5 is a bit concerning

Any ideas about silent heats or ways to cut them down?

Milked out

Play some Barry white at milking??
I thought the teasers were the answer for the silent heats, they are vasectomised and not bullocks yeah?

Buford T. Justice XIX

Milked out wrote: »

Play some Barry white at milking??
I thought the teasers were the answer for the silent heats, they are vasectomised and not bullocks yeah?

I'd play the bloody Kilfenora ceili band if I thought it would help:D

Yeah, two vasectomised jex bulls 3yo

kowtow

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Just had the vet here to handle a few cows that hadn't shown heat. All 5 were on heat but zero signs of bulling, tailpaint untouched and no chinball paint from the teasers.

I bulled 4 and will be serving again tomorrow, other one was a bit dirty so she got metricure.

I could understand one or two on heat and not showing but 5 is a bit concerning

Any ideas about silent heats or ways to cut them down?

I have a similar problem here after my initial burst of optimism last week - 5 showing no signs, including one that got estrumate for a luteal cyst 9 or 10 days ago.

All were scanned a couple of weeks ago and look to be in order.. not sure what to do about the one with the cyst, would she need a coil or do we try estrumate again and if so when?

ozil10

Must order Dairy Ration
What are people feeding at the moment if any.
Milk Protein % still under 3.4% at present

kevthegaff

ozil10 wrote: »

Must order Dairy Ration
What are people feeding at the moment if any.
Milk Protein % still under 3.4% at present

On a 13% nut 1 kg per day maze barley distillers, might get a lower protein nut made up nxt time. Protein running between 3,45 and 3.50

freedominacup

kevthegaff wrote: »

On a 13% nut 1 kg per day maze barley distillers, might get a lower protein nut made up nxt time. Protein running between 3,45 and 3.50

9% here. Pr running the same as yours on 28l. Drop the dist. According to dawg it's the complete wrong type of pr at grass.

Dawggone

freedominacup wrote: »

According to dawg it's the complete wrong type of pr at grass.

Dawg's not wrong on that even though he talks a lot of shyte...

You can add any OSR derived protein to that.

freedominacup

Dawggone wrote: »

Dawg's not wrong on that even though he talks a lot of shyte...

You can add any OSR derived protein to that.

Your preaching to the choir here dawg. You explained it very clearly around a month ago.

kevthegaff

Dawggone wrote: »

Dawg's not wrong on that even though he talks a lot of shyte...

You can add any OSR derived protein to that.

What would u add? Relatively cheap?

Dawggone

kevthegaff wrote: »

What would u add? Relatively cheap?

Do you need protein??

Contrary to what nut salesmen say, excess protein in the feed doesn't equal protein in milk.
If grass is good all you should need is energy.

With the price of soya and maize rising, it would be a good time to forward buy some ration. No point coming on here complaining about merchants next spring...just saying.

Milked out

Do u think the soya will continue to rise? had heard there was some issue with a port somewhere in South America effecting price

Dawggone

Milked out wrote: »

Do u think the soya will continue to rise? had heard there was some issue with a port somewhere in South America effecting price

There was a very wet soya bean harvest in Argentina with a lot of crop loss.
Brazil is importing quite a lot of US maize and will be next year before they can replenish their own stocks.
After that I don't know...my crystal ball isn't working well since last year!

keep going

the cows are hardly eating abit these days,paddocks that are meant to do 1 day are doing 2

kowtow

keep going wrote: »

the cows are hardly eating abit these days,paddocks that are meant to do 1 day are doing 2

Ah thank God I thought it was just mine..

yields down a fair bit as well, though I think it's because they can't be bothered to walk 100 yards up the hill for water..

Timmaay

freedominacup wrote: »

9% here. Pr running the same as yours on 28l. Drop the dist. According to dawg it's the complete wrong type of pr at grass.

What should milk ureas be this time of the year? Mine had been very consist in the high teens, one or two tests up at 25/30 back in early May. Cows on about 2kg of a 0.97ufl 14% nut, paying 250e/ton for that, 12% no cheaper yet unless they are like a 0.91ufl. Once I get the dosatron working proper again I'd be tempted to try a rolled barley etc at 185e/ton, or I could ditch the feed fully. Cows doing 26l, with the odd few getting extra nuts doing 35l.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Timmaay wrote: »

What should milk ureas be this time of the year? Mine had been very consist in the high teens, one or two tests up at 25/30 back in early May. Cows on about 2kg of a 0.97ufl 14% nut, paying 250e/ton for that, 12% no cheaper yet unless they are like a 0.91ufl. Once I get the dosatron working proper again I'd be tempted to try a rolled barley etc at 185e/ton, or I could ditch the feed fully. Cows doing 26l, with the odd few getting extra nuts doing 35l.

How do you rate those mineral dispensers for water, worth the money or just another cost to add in a low price year?

I'm thinking of putting something later in the year for trace elements with added magnesium late in the year. I might be able to cut a few kgs of meal off in the backend to help finance it.

Milked out

kowtow wrote: »

keep going wrote: »

the cows are hardly eating abit these days,paddocks that are meant to do 1 day are doing 2

Ah thank God I thought it was just mine..

yields down a fair bit as well, though I think it's because they can't be bothered to walk 100 yards up the hill for water..

It's amazing how some can be lazy with water, and how it can effect yield. Will have to have a look at new locations for troughs in some of the bigger fields. You'd notice sometimes it's only when u go to bring em in they decide to mosey on to the water.

Dawggone

Milked out wrote: »

It's amazing how some can be lazy with water, and how it can effect yield. Will have to have a look at new locations for troughs in some of the bigger fields. You'd notice sometimes it's only when u go to bring em in they decide to mosey on to the water.

I wouldn't bother moving troughs. The cows just aren't used to a bit of heat...

If it went to 35* they'd find water.

Milked out

Dawggone wrote: »

Milked out wrote: »

It's amazing how some can be lazy with water, and how it can effect yield. Will have to have a look at new locations for troughs in some of the bigger fields. You'd notice sometimes it's only when u go to bring em in they decide to mosey on to the water.

I wouldn't bother moving troughs. The cows just aren't used to a bit of heat...

If it went to 35* they'd find water.

Ah they've a path worn up and down to the troughs, I've just noticed a few lazy whores. I'll be rejigging a few paddocks anyway and moving troughs will help when back fencing in the shoulders so I'll do it bit by bit

einn32

Dawggone wrote: »

Milked out wrote: »

It's amazing how some can be lazy with water, and how it can effect yield. Will have to have a look at new locations for troughs in some of the bigger fields. You'd notice sometimes it's only when u go to bring em in they decide to mosey on to the water.

I wouldn't bother moving troughs. The cows just aren't used to a bit of heat...

If it went to 35* they'd find water.

You would be surprised the amount of cows that seem to prefer shade over water in 35 plus degrees! Then you start moving them and straight to a water trough. It also could be that we don't see them drinking during the day. I wouldn't bother moving troughs it won't make a difference I reckon.

kowtow

Dawggone wrote: »

I wouldn't bother moving troughs. The cows just aren't used to a bit of heat...

If it went to 35* they'd find water.

It is unusually warm, I'm down to 3 layers.

Dawggone

kowtow wrote: »

It is unusually warm, I'm down to 3 layers.

Have you ditched the ski socks?

Can't call it warm until they're off...and the sandals on.