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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • #5042
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm pretty sure the cartel want the lady in drag dead, be it on the streets or in prison.
    Once that happens, things might calm down for a bit.


  • #5043
    Tilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Tilly


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure the cartel want the lady in drag dead, be it on the streets or in prison.
    Once that happens, things might calm down for a bit.

    Well she's currently locked up so that won't be happening anytime soon and I doubt she'll be put anywhere near the K gang in prison just like her brother.


  • #5044
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tilly wrote: »
    Well she's currently locked up so that won't be happening anytime soon and I doubt she'll be put anywhere near the K gang in prison just like her brother.

    We are talking about Irish justice system here Tilly!
    She might walk or get a small sentence.
    Only matter of time I'd say.


  • #5045
    chillin117
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 736 ✭✭✭chillin117


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Its called respect

    This thread is getting like The Sopranos :eek:


  • #5046
    Tilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Tilly


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    We are talking about Irish justice system here Tilly!
    She might walk or get a small sentence.
    Only matter of time I'd say.

    Ah I don't know. Examples need to be made out of all of this and real sentences need to be used.


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  • #5047
    pragmatic1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    humberklog wrote: »
    Any body else surprised that with the intelligence Christy Kinahan was born with and the education he gave himself that he'd allow his son to take up his role in the underworld?
    Crime does pay if you're smart about it, that's the problem.


  • #5048
    gangstergossip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    I cant see there been any peace deal between these two gangs a deal was made at the beginning that gary hutch wouldn't be killed and the cartel went back on it theres no trust and no going back too many people have been killed and too many people who are seeking revenge. About the monks involvement from what i heard he was reluctant to get involved at the beginning but did so as a favor to a grieving brother.


  • #5049
    GANGSTAGEE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭GANGSTAGEE


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    I cant see there been any peace deal between these two gangs a deal was made at the beginning that gary hutch wouldn't be killed and the cartel went back on it theres no trust and no going back too many people have been killed and too many people who are seeking revenge. About the monks involvement from what i heard he was reluctant to get involved at the beginning but did so as a favor to a grieving brother.



    That's true the Kinihans won't stop and the Hutch's can't stop no peace deals here


  • #5050
    Allyall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    GANGSTAGEE wrote: »
    That's true the Kinihans won't stop and the Hutch's can't stop no peace deals here

    Even if they both agreed to stop, there's no way in hell they could trust each other to keep the peace.


  • #5051
    The flying mouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    gangstergossip wrote: »
    I cant see there been any peace deal between these two gangs a deal was made at the beginning that gary hutch wouldn't be killed and the cartel went back on it theres no trust and no going back too many people have been killed and too many people who are seeking revenge. About the monks involvement from what i heard he was reluctant to get involved at the beginning but did so as a favor to a grieving brother.


    What I heard was that the hutches agreed to pay over 200k to the boxer who was mistakenly shot in compensation, and they never paid a penny and had no intentions of ever paying as they had other plans in the pipeline.

    Someone with intelligence and balls and that had the backing by serious players started this, and I doubt if it was the unfortunate GH, It had to be someone who thought it was doable and thought he could run the costas operations, if not the monk who else would it have been ?


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  • #5052
    GANGSTAGEE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭GANGSTAGEE


    The flying mouse wrote: »
    What I heard was that the hutches agreed to pay over 200k to the boxer who was mistakenly shot in compensation, and they never paid a penny and had no intentions of ever paying as they had other plans in the pipeline.

    Someone with intelligence and balls and that had the backing by serious players started this, and I doubt if it was the unfortunate GH, It had to be someone who thought it was doable and thought he could run the costas operations, if not the monk who else would it have been ?

    Don't know if it was ever to intelligent but the nephews would certainly have the balls. I think they got idea's of grandeur and that put them all under threat then in steps the monk


  • #5053
    coniosumadre
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    GANGSTAGEE wrote: »
    The flying mouse wrote: »
    What I heard was that the hutches agreed to pay over 200k to the boxer who was mistakenly shot in compensation, and they never paid a penny and had no intentions of ever paying as they had other plans in the pipeline.

    Someone with intelligence and balls and that had the backing by serious players started this, and I doubt if it was the unfortunate GH, It had to be someone who thought it was doable and thought he could run the costas operations, if not the monk who else would it have been ?

    Don't know if it was ever to intelligent but the nephews would certainly have the balls. I think they got idea's of grandeur and that put them all under threat then in steps the monk
    If Gary felt safe enough to move back to Marbella after almost a year on the run, some sort of a deal must have been made though.


  • #5054
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    The flying mouse wrote: »
    What I heard was that the hutches agreed to pay over 200k to the boxer who was mistakenly shot in compensation, and they never paid a penny and had no intentions of ever paying as they had other plans in the pipeline.

    Someone with intelligence and balls and that had the backing by serious players started this, and I doubt if it was the unfortunate GH, It had to be someone who thought it was doable and thought he could run the costas operations, if not the monk who else would it have been ?

    Antartic creature?


  • #5055
    GANGSTAGEE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭GANGSTAGEE


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    If Gary felt safe enough to move back to Marbella after almost a year on the run, some sort of a deal must have been made though.

    Yes one of a double crossing nature which I don't think the Monk would have fell for if he knew the whole story.


  • #5056
    coniosumadre
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    GANGSTAGEE wrote: »
    coniosumadre wrote: »
    If Gary felt safe enough to move back to Marbella after almost a year on the run, some sort of a deal must have been made though.

    Yes one of a double crossing nature which I don't think the Monk would have fell for if he knew the whole story.
    What they tried to pull the year before would also have to count as a double cross.


  • #5057
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The only reason the nephews thought they could move in on the cartel was because Gary had inside knowledge and they could drag the Monk in if needed.
    Turned out well for them didn't it?


  • #5058
    GANGSTAGEE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭GANGSTAGEE


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    What they tried to pull the year before would also have to count as a double cross.

    Yes but they obviously thought they got away with it and fooled the Kinihans no?


  • #5059
    coniosumadre
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    GANGSTAGEE wrote: »
    coniosumadre wrote: »
    What they tried to pull the year before would also have to count as a double cross.

    Yes but they obviously thought they got away with it and fooled the Kinihans no?
    Maybe. Silly thing to think though, Kinahans have hardly reached this level or lasted this long by being made fools of.


  • #5060
    GANGSTAGEE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭GANGSTAGEE


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    Maybe. Silly thing to think though, Kinahans have hardly reached this level or lasted this long by being made fools of.


    Very true but that can't be said about most criminals


  • #5061
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    GANGSTAGEE wrote: »
    The flying mouse wrote: »
    What I heard was that the hutches agreed to pay over 200k to the boxer who was mistakenly shot in compensation, and they never paid a penny and had no intentions of ever paying as they had other plans in the pipeline.

    Someone with intelligence and balls and that had the backing by serious players started this, and I doubt if it was the unfortunate GH, It had to be someone who thought it was doable and thought he could run the costas operations, if not the monk who else would it have been ?

    Don't know if it was ever to intelligent but the nephews would certainly have the balls. I think they got idea's of grandeur and that put them all under threat then in steps the monk
    If Gary felt safe enough to move back to Marbella after almost a year on the run, some sort of a deal must have been made though.
    He was brought back into the fold on order to set him up.
    They needed to prove Gary Hutch was leaking.


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  • #5062
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    Maybe. Silly thing to think though, Kinahans have hardly reached this level or lasted this long by being made fools of.

    They run a clean operation!
    So much so that he's a celebrity in the boxing scene and the media have only started making them public enemy number 1 since all the murders.


  • #5063
    Aloneagain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭Aloneagain


    When Gilligan`s chief assassin is whacked in the near future it`s game, set and match to GH... K mob have taken out only the subsoil, the H`s have the upper hand presently !
    CK is a self educated man, how he left Bill and Ben in control beggars belief ???


  • #5064
    Aloneagain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭Aloneagain


    When Gilligan`s failed assassin is whacked in the near future it`s game, set and match to GH... K mob have taken out only the subsoil, the H`s have the upper hand presently !
    CK is a self educated man, how he left Bill and Ben in control beggars belief ???


  • #5065
    Lucy8080
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    This is an interesting thread. Speculation,assertions and even national journalists.

    I saw, in today's paper's, photo's of a "gangland" funeral.

    I did not see limo' after limo' or kids with puffed out chests riding horse's and traps.

    I did see ,tucked away somewhere, an article about Sheriff Y.C. It was kind of uplifting to see that some folks are trying for their community,and sadly, saying that they cannot even get sponsorship from the banking/financial groups they live cheek by jowl with.

    I hope that journalist here rides into town and kicks ass .I hope he ask's questions of" those who have" and of whom"much is expected".

    I don't know any character's or personalities involved in this story.I can only imagine the fear and impotency of some folks. Folks who's hero's are actually anti hero's. A bit of a Thrill mixed with a lot of grief and heartache.

    There is a journalist here who could go into that community and ask them what/how they feel.What they feel they lack. How could their kid's be supported, in a way, that would put an end to another generation of what we see today.

    Or, that Journalist can come on here...with vague hint's that he know's stuff but cannot say.

    Go for the other side of the story.Put a light on what we should all be supporting.

    Then, maybe then...we might see change. Positive, long lasting change.

    Use your Journalistic skills.I guess most here don't have those skills,but would get right behind you.


  • #5066
    avalidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭avalidusername


    humberklog wrote: »
    He was brought back into the fold on order to set him up.
    They needed to prove Gary Hutch was leaking.

    Have you media or openly available sources to back that allegation up? Otherwise it's just speculation. By a MOD of all people. As my first post, I feel obliged to refer you back to the first post of this thread. NO GOSSIP, NO SPECULATION.


  • #5067
    GANGSTAGEE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 ✭GANGSTAGEE


    Aloneagain wrote: »
    When Gilligan`s failed assassin is whacked in the near future it`s game, set and match to GH... K mob have taken out only the subsoil, the H`s have the upper hand presently !
    CK is a self educated man, how he left Bill and Ben in control beggars belief ???

    The Kinihan mob couldn't give 2 hoots for gilligans failed assassin they'll probably take him out themselves a loose canon.


  • #5068
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    humberklog wrote: »
    I think the story needs to go a little further back than that: Gary Hutch was suspected by the cartel for being responsible for a number of drugs busts both here and in England. The English bust was a big deal in that it brought down a large crime gang in the north east with a lot of lengthy prison sentences for the main players.

    What I've never understood was why when it was felt that Gary Hutch was an informant did some people, in May 2014, decide to spray graffiti to that effect all over the inside of the church* where they thought the funeral of Christy Kinahan's ex-wife was about to take place. That never made any sense to me as surely if it was someone close to the Kinahan's, they would have wanted to show respect for Christy's wife, even if members of the Hutch family were due to attend (no idea if they were or not). Bizarrely the name Keith Kinlan was included in the graffiti and it was suggested Gary had grassed him up at some point. Garda said at the time they were baffled.

    *they actually got the wrong church.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/graffiti-spray-painted-on-walls-of-church-ahead-of-christy-kinahan-wifes-funeral-30248094.html

    http://www.sundayworld.com/news/crimedesk/we-reveal-robber-named-in-graffiti-accusing-gary-hutch-of-being-a-rat


  • #5069
    coniosumadre
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    That's been widely reported in many media outlets. I neither have the time or the interest at the moment to spend my morning searching just to appease you.


  • #5070
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lots of new registrations on the forum lately just to post in here.
    Even had one of them PM me to ask do I know who the hit men are :pac:

    The big question for the newbs is, which side are you aligned to? (Not that it isn't obvious)


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  • #5071
    The flying mouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    Lots of new registrations on the forum lately just to post in here.
    Even had one of them PM me to ask do I know who the hit men are :pac:

    The big question for the newbs is, which side are you aligned to? (Not that it isn't obvious)

    I tend to ignore any newbys asking questions or just jumping in with out contributing to the thread in a informative manner..as for getting pm to ask names..if they don't no by now who was involved they will never know.


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