Season 6 Episode 7 "The Broken Man" - Speculation Thread

Flying Abruptly · 31-05-2016 03:19PM

It could maybe refer to the Faceless Men, they like calling themselves a 'Man', a 'Girl', etc. Arya could do something to Jaqen and he becomes the 'Broken Man'.

Avatar MIA · 31-05-2016 03:21PM

Flying Abruptly wrote: »

It could maybe refer to the Faceless Men, they like calling themselves a 'Man', a 'Girl', etc. Arya could do something to Jaqen and he becomes the 'Broken Man'.

I really liked that character that plays the faceless man in season 1, he's just so bloody boring now, washing dead corpses. :rolleyes:

EagererBeaver · 31-05-2016 03:22PM

Nalz wrote: »

but there is a bear one seconds before that on the wall when Sanza is talking

A bear!

Conall Cernach · 31-05-2016 03:28PM

I think it will be The Hound as in Westeros a "broken man" is another way of saying deserter, which we know The Hound technically is as he legged it from the battle of the Blackwater. This will set up Cleganebowl for episode 8 or 9, 9 possibly being a dual hander between the Cleganes and Bastardbowl in the North.

amos13 · 31-05-2016 05:20PM

The broken men are bandits are they not? Now if only we knew of a group of outlaw bandits whose plot line seemed unfinished and who we'd all like to see make a return to the show at some point.......Hmmmm......

GottaGetGatt · 31-05-2016 05:49PM

I would have though Jamie was the Broken Man since its obvious the Blackfish wont give a toss of what he has to say because Jamie no longer has his sword hand.

Degag · 31-05-2016 06:25PM

Conall Cernach wrote: »

I think it will be The Hound as in Westeros a "broken man" is another way of saying deserter, which we know The Hound technically is as he legged it from the battle of the Blackwater. This will set up Cleganebowl for episode 8 or 9, 9 possibly being a dual hander between the Cleganes and Bastardbowl in the North.

If it's The Hound, i'd imagine its a nod to the fact he was broken the last time we saw him rather than deserting at the Blackwater.

intheclouds · 31-05-2016 07:28PM

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

I would have though Jamie was the Broken Man since its obvious the Blackfish wont give a toss of what he has to say because Jamie no longer has his sword hand.

Id say the Blackfish wouldn't give a toss about what Jaime has to say regardless of how many hands he has.

Savage Tyrant · 31-05-2016 07:44PM

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Can anyone name a male in the entire series that couldn't be described as the Broken man?

"A man" is not broken.

Mr Velo · 31-05-2016 08:08PM

Anyone think that the "re-introduction" we were given to the 2 Frey lads by Lord Walder (the guy that stabbed Robs missus, and the guy that cut Cat's throat) is pointing out that we should remember who they are?

Could LS appear to get her revenge on them in the Riverlands??

DeadHand · 31-05-2016 08:25PM

intheclouds wrote: »

Id say the Blackfish wouldn't give a toss about what Jaime has to say regardless of how many hands he has.

True, the Freys, with the backing of the Lannisters, murdered his niece (who he was particularly close to), grandnephew and scores of his friends and relatives in one of the most brutal, dishonorable ways imaginable.

To an old school warrior like the Blackfish this is unforgivable. The Freys will try to use Edmure as leverage- but I expect BF will ignore them, knowing full well that, the Freys being the Freys, they'll likely massacre him and the garrison as soon as they concede and murder Edmure anyway.

He'll fight like a dog and he'll fight till the end.

The next episode is looking interesting- reckon we'll get to see some of the minor houses (Glovers, Mormonts) come to the fore as well as the welcome returns of Bronn and BF. Loads of diplomacy and political maneuvering- maybe even a little action. If Bronn is on the scene, it's safe to assume people are going to die horribly.

Battlelines are being drawn, alliances forged and many of our "heroes" will be finding themselves on opposing sides.

EagererBeaver · 31-05-2016 09:08PM

amos13 wrote: »

The broken men are bandits are they not? Now if only we knew of a group of outlaw bandits whose plot line seemed unfinished and who we'd all like to see make a return to the show at some point.......Hmmmm......

You're thinking of the brotherhood without Banners.

Avatar MIA · 31-05-2016 09:17PM

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

"A man" is not broken.

It looks like their former selves have to be broken before they become the faceless ones. Once broken...

And yes, I and everyone else read your line in his voice

PIORUN · 01-06-2016 07:21AM

Based in Ian McShanes interview it has to be book spoiler

LS

back from the dead....." a much loved character"....the Hound was hardly much loved!

amos13 · 01-06-2016 08:02AM

PIORUN wrote:

Based in Ian McShanes interview it has to be LS back from the dead....." a much loved character"....the Hound was hardly much loved!

And we handily have two Frey's, one Brienne and one Jaime Lannister on their way to riverrun.

intheclouds · 01-06-2016 08:07AM

PIORUN wrote: »

Based in Ian McShanes interview it has to be LS back from the dead....." a much loved character"....the Hound was hardly much loved!

Are you serious?

He was a massive fan favourite, a hugely complex character who went from simply being Joffreys henchman to trying to protect Loras Tyrell from the Mountain to trying to help Sansa anyway he could, and then to being almost a father figure to Arya - at which point we really got an insight into who he was and why he was the way he was.

Given his background is it any wonder he ended up how he did?

Book spoiler:

Who loved Catelyn Stark? She was a moany old bint who was mean to Jon Snow his whole life just because her husband betrayed her. If its LS Ill be eating every f**king chicken in sight.

Bandana boy · 01-06-2016 08:36AM

PIORUN wrote: »

..the Hound was hardly much loved!

He is defo in top 10 most loved characters on the Show , look at the amount of Memes and fan pics done with him .

Hound and Ayra storyline is tied with Tyrion and Bronn as my fav parts of the show

Conall Cernach · 01-06-2016 08:41AM

Bandana boy wrote: »

He is defo in top 10 most loved characters on the Show , look at the amount of Memes and fan pics done with him .

Hound and Ayra storyline is tied with Tyrion and Bronn as my fav parts of the show

Arya: Lots of people name their swords.
The Hound: Lots of c*nts.

Tazzimus · 01-06-2016 10:06AM

Conall Cernach wrote: »

Arya: Lots of people name their swords.
The Hound: Lots of c*nts.

Best line of the show right there.

dinorebel · 01-06-2016 10:19AM

Tazzimus wrote: »

Best line of the show right there.

"No cure for being a c**t" beats it Bronn v the Hound has to happen.

DeadHand · 01-06-2016 10:47AM

Arya: "He killed Lommy"
Hound: "What the ****'s a Lommy"?

PIORUN · 01-06-2016 10:52AM

intheclouds wrote: »

PIORUN wrote: »

Based in Ian McShanes interview it has to be LS back from the dead....." a much loved character"....the Hound was hardly much loved!

Are you serious?

He was a massive fan favourite, a hugely complex character who went from simply being Joffreys henchman to trying to protect Loras Tyrell from the Mountain to trying to help Sansa anyway he could, and then to being almost a father figure to Arya - at which point we really got an insight into who he was and why he was the way he was.

Given his background is it any wonder he ended up how he did?

Book spoiler
Who loved Catelyn Stark? She was a moany old bint who was mean to Jon Snow his whole life just because her husband betrayed her. If its LS Ill be eating every f**king chicken in sight.

Book spoiler

yeah I suppose Catelyn was terrible alright, shes even worse to Jon Snow in the book...

ok fair enough its the Hound thats back

DeadHand · 01-06-2016 11:53AM

Arya vs. Hound
Arya vs. Syrio
Arya vs. Yoren
Arya vs. Tywin
Arya vs. Jaqen
Arya vs. Thoros and Beric

Maisie Williams is the common denominator to so many of the most memorable scenes, dialogues and interplays throughout the series. Still so young yet holds her own effortlessly opposite veteran actors.

An astonishing actress- the find of the series.

intheclouds · 01-06-2016 11:58AM

DeadHand wrote: »

Arya vs. Hound
Arya vs. Syrio
Arya vs. Yoren
Arya vs. Tywin
Arya vs. Jaqen
Arya vs. Thoros and Beric

Maisie Williams is the common denominator to so many of the most memorable scenes, dialogues and interplays throughout the series. Still so young yet holds her own effortlessly opposite veteran actors.

An astonishing actress- the find of the series.

I do like her but the strength of most of the interplays above has actually been that the chemistry between her and the veteran actors PLUS the storylines involved and not her acting imo.

Actually Ive found her storyline boring and her screen time non compelling since she has joined the Faceless men.

DeadHand · 01-06-2016 12:38PM

intheclouds wrote: »

I do like her but the strength of most of the interplays above has actually been that the chemistry between her and the veteran actors PLUS the storylines involved and not her acting imo.

Actually Ive found her storyline boring and her screen time non compelling since she has joined the Faceless men.

You can't simultaneously claim that chemistry is the strength of the scenes and Maisies' acting isn't when the chemistry is a result of her acting. If you're suggesting she was carried in those scenes you are being grossly unfair.

I've seen enough bad Shakespeare to know the best writing in the world will not shine unless well acted. That cuts both ways. The sometimes sluggish nature of the Bravos plot was more a result of uninspiring writing than weak acting.

PressRun · 01-06-2016 12:42PM

She has been excellent the last couple of episodes, especially the scenes where she is simply standing there, watching a reenactment of her father's murder. She conveyed an awful lot in those scenes without saying anything.

J. Marston · 01-06-2016 01:10PM

Refers to the book spoiler above.

I liked Catelyn, dismissing her as a moany old bint is a bit harsh. Her son was paralysed, her Husband got his head chopped off, her two daughters were being held hostage and her eldest was leading a war.

Can't blame her if she was a bit down in the dumps.

intheclouds · 01-06-2016 01:16PM

DeadHand wrote: »

You can't simultaneously claim that chemistry is the strength of the scenes and Maisies' acting isn't when the chemistry is a result of her acting. If you're suggesting she was carried in those scenes you are being grossly unfair.

lol - of course I can! Actors/actresses can have great onscreen chemistry without being great actors. Of course she was being carried to some degree - she is still learning her craft - she is very young and inexperienced. That is not to say that she is a bad actress or anything like it, in fact I think she has the potential to become a great actress in time, but right now I would just say she is a good actress who has been very lucky to be cast opposite some absolutely stellar actors with good writing to boot. You are entitled to think she is the best actress you have ever seen, I simply do not agree.

In fact I am surprised that no one ever mentions how Arya Starks character has been extremely lucky in the adult men she has experienced in the world in that they have all contributed to her learning in one way or another. They have all treated her gently and the Hound went so far as to be a father figure of sorts. I mean Sansa steps outside the Red Keep and a bunch of rapists are straight on her, but Arya seems to be lucky in her choice of male companions. Art imitating life?

DeadHand wrote: »

I've seen enough bad Shakespeare to know the best writing in the world will not shine unless well acted. That cuts both ways. The sometimes sluggish nature of the Bravos plot was more a result of uninspiring writing than weak acting.

Well of course, you cant out act a bad screenplay - isnt that the point the actress playing Cersei is making?

I wasnt really commenting on Maisie Williams acting for that storyline tbh, I have found the entire "cockle, mussels etc...", the blind arc, even the crappy cgi used for the faces just utterly boring. The story doesnt feel connected with anything else. Im hoping she moves on very soon.

intheclouds · 01-06-2016 01:17PM

PressRun wrote: »

She has been excellent the last couple of episodes, especially the scenes where she is simply standing there, watching a reenactment of her father's murder. She conveyed an awful lot in those scenes without saying anything.

Not as much as Tormund conveys without saying anything

intheclouds · 01-06-2016 01:17PM

J. Marston wrote: »

I liked Catelyn, dismissing her as a moany old bint is a bit harsh. Her son was paralysed, her Husband got his head chopped off, her two daughters were being held hostage and her eldest was leading a war.

Can't blame her if she was a bit down in the dumps.

Relates to the book spoiler above.

I suppose. She struck me as pretty moany before all that mind you. It was only on a re-watch that it really struck me.

Season 6 Episode 7 "The Broken Man" - Speculation Thread

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