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Season 6 Episode 6 "Blood Of My Blood" - "Non book readers"

  • 29-05-2016 08:18PM
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    Pre empting the upcoming episode post by including some highlights from the charter. I'll try to set up each episode in advance each week; thread will be unlocked on Sunday evening.

    This is ONLY about the specific episode shown on TV! No information from any other source, interviews etc. are allowed to be posted with the one exception that SPOILER tagged lore from the DVD releases and interviews will be allowed in the thread. Such information has to directly relate to the episode however and be clearly marked as for example "DVD lore from Season X relating to matter Y"
    Lore and conclusions go here

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,028 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    The CGI at the end there. Christ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,402 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Weaker episode but had it good spots. Stream I had was ****ing atrocious for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,295 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Benjin is looking well considering he was stabbed in the heart with dragonglass.

    Decent episode overall, pity we didn't get to see Mace Tyrell sing the high sparrow into submission.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Weaker episode but had it good spots. Stream I had was ****ing atrocious for me

    Had to make up some of Daenerys' dialog because the FPS was less than an xbox in my stream.

    So Benjen is a bit ****ed by the looks of things. Disappointed we didnt get to see Margaery get shamed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,408 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Copy paste speech by Dany.

    Sam and Gilly got way too much screentime. Time that could be spent on the romance everyone is actually interested in, Tormund and Brienne.

    Riverlands is back, about time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭nicki11


    Bit of a mixed episode for me on the one hand.
    Mad king flashbacks yay and prove Jaime told the truth, the wildfire has future potential or could just be a reference to Jaime destroying the pyromancers cache to save everyone.
    Then there's yet another Dany speech I get that its set up but god just get to Meereen and then leave already.

    Lastly dear god Tommen, you have cotton balls for brains used by your Great Uncle and the High Sparrow, he has no common sense what so ever. High Sparrow wants to control him and so does Kevan but Margaery is either insane, brainwashed or conniving. Just waiting to see where this goes, it'll probably come to a head when Cersei faces her trial.

    Walder seems same as ever, thinks everyones laughing at him, obsessed with the status of his house. He seems to be going ahead with the Edmure plot but I don't know whether they will add the wife plot line too. Everyone may or may not be laughing at him but considering what we have been led to beleive about Westeros and their codes of honour no one likes him and would turn against him if they had the chance. Not only did he kill a guest, he also slaughtered his liege lords family at his wedding and kept him captive for years. Doubt he'll last much longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,204 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Christ, Tommen is so ****ing feeble-minded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭empacher


    too many stories running connsecutively, which means too little progression in each story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Essien


    Danys rousing speech at the end there really falls flat since we all know it'll take another 6 seasons to get her to Westeros.

    Good to have Benjen back though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭leonil7


    khaleesi really knows how to make a motivational speech :)
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  • Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I found this week's episode to be very frantic. There was an awful lot going on. I was surprised how wealthy Sam's family were. His mum and sister were certainly not what I was expecting. I imagined his home town to be similar to Winterfell yet smaller. His mum older and much plainer.

    It must be very far away from all the other shenanigans because of his brother's comment at the dinner table. That father of his! Dreadful man. That very last scene though left me feeling uneasy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,028 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I surely cannot be the only one that thought that was the Hound who rescued Bran? Sounded the fecking same and everything.

    Too late to stay up for a god damn mickey tease


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    I found this week's episode to be very frantic. There was an awful lot going on. I was surprised how wealthy Sam's family were. His mum and sister were certainly not what I was expecting. I imagined his home town to be similar to Winterfell yet smaller. His mum older and much plainer

    Stannis (not a man to express admiration easily) mentioned that Randall was the only general to defeat Robert (who was a military beast) in battle and they have a valerian steel sword (not even the Lannisters had one until recently) so it's safe enough to assume they're a massively influential house. I reckon they're just a step below the High Lords. I hope Randall has a big part to play in the wider story before too long- his character and actor look excellent- a sort of Tywin/Stannis style badass.

    I was hoping for a full flashback scene of the assassination of Aerys by a young Jamie instead of the jumble we got- we may get it yet. I'm thinking "burn them all" has a similar time-bending significance to "hold the door".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    Was a very strange episode in that it covered a lot of stories but not a whole lot happened in any of them.

    It has set it up for the next couple of episodes though. I suspect the greyjoys and khaleesi's stories will merge shortly. Arya is going to have to escape so I imagine her story has to merge with another story soon.

    I think the introduction of time travel and the 'hold the door' thing could be game of thrones 'jump the shark' moment however.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭shane9689


    Jesus if Khaleesi isnt on a ship in the next episode im going to be pissed, Shes been marching around Deserts with dragons since season 1 !!!


    p.s Why is no one in Kings landing pissing themselves scared at the idea of a Targaryn coming over with Three Dragons!? ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,408 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Mace Tyrell in full battle regalia was a sight to behold. Truly a man to be feared.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    shane9689 wrote: »
    p.s Why is no one in Kings landing pissing themselves scared at the idea of a Targaryn coming over with Three Dragons!? ??

    Same reason they're not pissing themselves scared of an army of the dead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    PressRun wrote: »
    Christ, Tommen is so ****ing feeble-minded.

    Yeah, but Margaery isn't. She's every bit as manipulative as Cersei, nowhere near as shortsighted, and has a far better game face. No doubt she's got the High Sparrow fooled, and I'd suspect that as soon as she's got Tommen alone she'll tell of the abuses she suffered in the dungeons. Her talk with Loras definitely spurned her into action, she really does love him and she wants to see him free, but while Cersei might be all sound and thunder in her vengeful proclaimations, Margaery is calculating and can wrap just about anyone around her little finger. Just think how she had Joffrey going.



    That right there is why the High Sparrow is ****ed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭JoeyJJ


    Decent enough for an episode mid series which main job was to set up the end of series.
    Will defo watch it again tonight as it was a little busy watching earlier.

    Sam bringing more Valarian steel back north by the look of things, wonder will he go back to castle black or elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    JoeyJJ wrote: »
    Decent enough for an episode mid series which main job was to set up the end of series.
    Will defo watch it again tonight as it was a little busy watching earlier.

    Sam bringing more Valarian steel back north by the look of things, wonder will he go back to castle black or elsewhere.

    Taking Heartsbane confused me. Obviously Valyrian steel would be advantageous in the north but Sam's mission is to head further south to Oldtown. I can't see him going against express orders from Jon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,204 ✭✭✭PressRun


    Links234 wrote: »
    Yeah, but Margaery isn't. She's every bit as manipulative as Cersei, nowhere near as shortsighted, and has a far better game face. No doubt she's got the High Sparrow fooled, and I'd suspect that as soon as she's got Tommen alone she'll tell of the abuses she suffered in the dungeons. Her talk with Loras definitely spurned her into action, she really does love him and she wants to see him free, but while Cersei might be all sound and thunder in her vengeful proclaimations, Margaery is calculating and can wrap just about anyone around her little finger. Just think how she had Joffrey going.

    That right there is why the High Sparrow is ****ed.

    Tbh, I think they're all ****ed - the Tyrells, the High Sparrow, most definitely Tommen and possibly the other remaining Lannisters. Their power struggle in King's Landing feels fairly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭shane9689


    Kings landing is ****ed, i think Jamie might come out unscaved, but everyone else will be pigs to the slaughter when Danearys comes flying in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    This week was an odd one.
    Fine in spots, but lots of problems.

    - Benji is back and worse for the ware.
    Bran's visions was quite cool... we see the mad king (Danny's father) getting killed by Jamie.
    As predicted from last week, Bran was extricated far too easily.

    - The hostility of Sam's father.... we knew it was there from previous seasons, however when its presented before us there is no context.
    Without any context or reason it seems petty & trivial & fundamentally pointless.
    Sam takes the family sword... presumably daddy could have his head cleaved for this in a day, obviously the show runners won't let that happen though, so who cares?

    - A girl proved to be not up for the job... quelle suprise!
    The musical cues here were all over the place... the crecendo rising to when Arya blowing out her candle was ridiculous.

    - So, the Sparrow continues to act the politician and sways the hearts of the feeble minded.
    Because Margery's conversion was pretty much instantaneous & again, without context, suffice to assume she is faking it in order to damage House Lannister.
    Jamie's similarly instantaneous & more-or-less reasonless expulsion from the Kings Guard was poor.

    - Walder, still alive.... to be seen if relevant.
    We've seen a lot of foreshadowing that matters not a jot.

    - Over to Danny in the desert.... sigh.
    We know she now commands the loyalty of the the Dothraki.... otherwise they would not be marching obediently behind her.
    Want to bring Drogon back to hang out... that's fine.
    However to use it as some device to deliver an 'Any given sunday' rallying speech was an utter waste of time.
    She already commands their loyalty!
    So this speech was completely redundant!

    I felt this episode was the weakest of the season by some distance.

    Pacing was poor, editing felt off.... musical cues seemed wrong in several places.

    I don't mind the 'setting up the chess pieces' episodes... but this one was just done poorly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,130 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    An awful lot of conflict being teased followed by nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    At least Arya is back on track, though I'm not sure what she's learned for the whole time she's been there... how to get beaten up with sticks perhaps? That waif is totally toast though haha (mind you, how do you defeat an assassin who could be anyone?) ... I had been looking forward to her getting access to the many faces but now it seems like she wont which makes the whole thing seem a little pointless. Still, more Arya is good!

    It felt like a bit of a filler episode but at least stuff got moved forwards. Amazingly Eujon (?) is building just the right number of ships for Khalessi and the Dothraki.... neat that! I don't think Bran is going to ever warg into anyone else in his dreams after what happened to Hodor, so I don't think "time travel" will make any difference to the story. (Its not time-travel anyway, he had already warged into Hodor in the past, he didn't change his present by doing so, he merely reiterated what had already been established in his time line, so... no deviation from the time line, no timetravel. No one else is walking around like Hodor so, we can pretty much assume he wont be doing it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,227 ✭✭✭20 Times 20 Times


    DeVore wrote: »
    At least Arya is back on track, though I'm not sure what she's learned for the whole time she's been there... how to get beaten up with sticks perhaps? That waif is totally toast though haha (mind you, how do you defeat an assassin who could be anyone?) ... I had been looking forward to her getting access to the many faces but now it seems like she wont which makes the whole thing seem a little pointless. Still, more Arya is good!

    It felt like a bit of a filler episode but at least stuff got moved forwards. Amazingly Eujon (?) is building just the right number of ships for Khalessi and the Dothraki.... neat that! I don't think Bran is going to ever warg into anyone else in his dreams after what happened to Hodor, so I don't think "time travel" will make any difference to the story. (Its not time-travel anyway, he had already warged into Hodor in the past, he didn't change his present by doing so, he merely reiterated what had already been established in his time line, so... no deviation from the time line, no timetravel. No one else is walking around like Hodor so, we can pretty much assume he wont be doing it again.


    Except the mad King ! Money is on bran warging into him !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 276 ✭✭Daenarys


    empacher wrote: »
    too many stories running connsecutively, which means too little progression in each story.


    I agree. I preferred when we nearly had to wait a whole season to find out where someone had gone or what they were doing....rather than seeing 3 minute clips of nearly all the storylines currently in play....no f€ckin intrigue! I'll watch it again tonight though :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,408 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    DeVore wrote: »
    At least Arya is back on track, though I'm not sure what she's learned for the whole time she's been there... how to get beaten up with sticks perhaps? That waif is totally toast though haha (mind you, how do you defeat an assassin who could be anyone?) ... I had been looking forward to her getting access to the many faces but now it seems like she wont which makes the whole thing seem a little pointless. Still, more Arya is good!

    It felt like a bit of a filler episode but at least stuff got moved forwards. Amazingly Eujon (?) is building just the right number of ships for Khalessi and the Dothraki.... neat that! I don't think Bran is going to ever warg into anyone else in his dreams after what happened to Hodor, so I don't think "time travel" will make any difference to the story. (Its not time-travel anyway, he had already warged into Hodor in the past, he didn't change his present by doing so, he merely reiterated what had already been established in his time line, so... no deviation from the time line, no timetravel. No one else is walking around like Hodor so, we can pretty much assume he wont be doing it again.

    Arya did learn how to change faces. Remember how she killed Meryn Trant?

    She's gonna kill the waif and ransack the House of Black & White.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    J. Marston wrote: »
    She's gonna kill the waif

    For plausibilities sake though, she shouldn't.

    The Waif has been kicking her ass badly, even when unarmed against the staff-bearing Arya....

    The program makers have given us no indication that she stands any chance..... of course that doesn't matter anymore!
    The writers will find a way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭OneOfThem Stumbled


    Benjen: Come with me if you want to live. You have to understand the dead are out there. They can't be bargained with, they can't be reasoned with and they absolutely will not stop, until you are dead... too.

    Totally skippable episode. Someone misses the episode and you can say "Oh right, remember that build-up with Margery and Loras? Yeah, forget about that. That build-up with Arya going to assassinate the actress? Yeah, she doesn't. Sam goes back home, you can imagine how that goes. Apparently the Blackfish - remember him: yeah he took Riverrun. No, no we didn't see that. No, we don't see him either: we do see his nephew though, being held by the Freys. Oh yeah, Benjen shows up and cooks rabbit."

    There's not much wrong about the episode, but boy does it feel like they are playing for time. I want to see Sansa planning revenge. I want to see sparrows being chopped down. I want to see Daenerys actually doing something. I want to see what Westeros looks like in the wake of the war of Five Kings.

    Daenerys:
    wait a minute, my dragon wifi just connected.
    Daario: What, out here in the middle of no-where?
    Daenerys: Yeah, Drogon network has got pretty good coverage, it's just that Vaes Dothrak doesn't have good signal. A bit like Connemara.

    Child Of Forest WhiteWalker Manual - if your whitewalker stops functioning try turning your dragonglass off and on again.


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