Season 6 Episode 7 "The Broken Man" - Speculation Thread

Nody · 29-05-2016 08:21PM #1

See topic; please spoiler anything from interviews, books, trailers etc.

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RobbingBandit · 29-05-2016 08:25PM

Bran centric episode or could be Ser Loras as he seemed a broken man in the cell a few weeks back.

Degag · 29-05-2016 08:54PM

Or The Hound!

DANNY2014 · 29-05-2016 09:46PM

Or hodor as a white Walker as a broken man

J. Marston · 30-05-2016 01:54AM

If we get the "Broken men" speech or a variation of it, I'll be very happy.

The Randy Riverbeast · 30-05-2016 02:16AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq-97rH6P_8

House Mormont looks to be making an appearance. That bridge city is in Essos right?

nicki11 · 30-05-2016 03:12AM

Looks like Osha and Theon will be needing more ships, maybe the Volantenes will give them ones so they can get rid of Dany. Though the Red Faith has a lot of followers so they could help, maybe pick up Arya on the way.

Jaime and Blackfish will talk, he'll refuse to surrender and then they will threaten Edmure, only question is if he'll give in.

Looking forward to the Mormonts, northerners have some of the most interesting lines and don't bs. Davos will probably pull his usual routine, they don't seem to be swaying the other side, he makes and speech and they follow whoever he promotes.

Would be interesting if Jorahs sister shows up considering shes described as being wild and like a bear. Might be a good friend to Brienne as shes described similarly also that seems to be Tormunds type.

ambid · 30-05-2016 12:03PM

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

House Mormont looks to be making an appearance. That bridge city is in Essos right?

Yep - that's the Long Bridge of old Volantis in Essos.

Does anyone know who owns the sigil at 17 seconds in the trailer - the white fist on red background?

Tigger · 30-05-2016 12:14PM

J. Marston wrote: »

If we get the "Broken men" speech or a variation of it, I'll be very happy.

if so it'll be Brothers without Banners time.
I'd prefer the Hound tho

“is a broken man an outlaw?"

"More or less." Brienne answered.

Septon Meribald disagreed. "More less than more. There are many sorts of outlaws, just as there are many sorts of birds. A sandpiper and a sea eagle both have wings, but they are not the same. The singers love to sing of good men forced to go outside the law to fight some wicked lord, but most outlaws are more like this ravening Hound than they are the lightning lord. They are evil men, driven by greed, soured by malice, despising the gods and caring only for themselves. Broken men are more deserving of our pity, though they may be just as dangerous. Almost all are common-born, simple folk who had never been more than a mile from the house where they were born until the day some lord came round to take them off to war.

And one day they look around and realize all their friends and kin are gone, that they are fighting beside strangers beneath a banner that they hardly recognize. They don't know where they are or how to get back home and the lord they're fighting for does not know their names, yet here he comes, shouting for them to form up, to make a line with their spears and scythes and sharpened hoes, to stand their ground. And the knights come down on them, faceless men clad all in steel, and the iron thunder of their charge seems to fill the world...

"And the man breaks.

"He turns and runs, or crawls off afterward over the corpses of the slain, or steals away in the black of night, and he finds someplace to hide. All thought of home is gone by then, and kings and lords and gods mean less to him than a haunch of spoiled meat that will let him live another day, or a skin of bad wine that might drown his fear for a few hours. The broken man lives from day to day, from meal to meal, more beast than man. Lady Brienne is not wrong. In times like these, the traveler must beware of broken men, and fear them...but he should pity them as well”

Mr Velo · 30-05-2016 12:14PM

ambid wrote: »

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

House Mormont looks to be making an appearance. That bridge city is in Essos right?

Yep - that's the Long Bridge of old Volantis in Essos.

Does anyone know who owns the sigil at 17 seconds in the trailer - the white fist on red background?

That's the Glover sigil isn't it?

Duckworth_Luas · 30-05-2016 12:28PM

Edmure Tully = Broken man

Tigger · 30-05-2016 12:35PM

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq-97rH6P_8

House Mormont looks to be making an appearance. That bridge city is in Essos right?

Bronn is back

astrofool · 30-05-2016 03:23PM

Is that GreatJon Umber at 0:17? Looks like him, just less bearded

ambid · 30-05-2016 05:36PM

Mr Velo wrote: »

That's the Glover sigil isn't it?

So a glove is the sigil of house Glover? I really should have been able to figure that out!

lbj666 · 30-05-2016 08:18PM

find it interesting in that clip that Davos talking to the mormonts about the undead and not Jon who was Jeors steward and has actually seen the dead.

EagererBeaver · 30-05-2016 09:32PM

Following on from Bran's vision and Qyburn's return, here's a question.

Can wyldfire kill white walkers/others?

Conall Cernach · 30-05-2016 11:25PM

astrofool wrote: »

Is that GreatJon Umber at 0:17? Looks like him, just less bearded

He looks more like Tim McInnerny to me rather than Clive Mantel.

nicki11 · 30-05-2016 11:48PM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Following on from Bran's vision and Qyburn's return, here's a question.

Can wyldfire kill white walkers/others?

Its magical so it might work and would be able to wipe out the army as it burns all it comes into contact with. Put it in some trebuchets, hit the middle some burst into flame, touch others they burn too soon their whole army smolders. Don't know if it could take out the white walkers but it could take out the whights and then dragons, valyrian steel or obsidian could take out the white walkers.

Mr Freeze · 31-05-2016 10:16AM

Will the Blackfish survive the episode? Probably not, given the way they are cleaning house and getting rid of minor/secondary characters this season.

Avatar MIA · 31-05-2016 10:20AM

Can anyone name a male in the entire series that couldn't be described as the Broken man?

dinorebel · 31-05-2016 11:39AM

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Can anyone name a male in the entire series that couldn't be described as the Broken man?

Bronn

hardCopy · 31-05-2016 11:44AM

Mr Freeze wrote: »

Will the Blackfish survive the episode? Probably not, given the way they are cleaning house and getting rid of minor/secondary characters this season.

Could the Blackfish be the end of Jaime? "Broken man" being the one handed swordsman?

Duckworth_Luas · 31-05-2016 11:45AM

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Can anyone name a male in the entire series that couldn't be described as the Broken man?

Hot Pie

Nalz · 31-05-2016 11:51AM

ambid wrote: »

So a glove is the sigil of house Glover? I really should have been able to figure that out!

but there is a bear one seconds before that on the wall when Sanza is talking

intheclouds · 31-05-2016 11:55AM

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Can anyone name a male in the entire series that couldn't be described as the Broken man?

Tormund.
Bronn.
Mace Tyrell.
Grand Maester Pycelle.
Daario.
The Blackfish.
Walder Frey.
Dolorous Edd.
Wun Wun.

dinorebel · 31-05-2016 12:26PM

intheclouds wrote: »

Tormund. Brienne will break him in half.
Bronn.:cool:
Mace Tyrell - not sure he qualifies as a man.
Grand Maester Pycelle . - Was broken by Tyrion and thrown in a cell.
Daario. You could argue the 2nd actor broke the 1st.
The Blackfish. Red Wedding anyone?
Walder Frey. Would you even notice seeing misery is his default setting?
Dolorous Edd. ,Good call.
Wun Wun.:D

Avatar MIA · 31-05-2016 12:37PM

intheclouds wrote: »

Tormund.
Bronn.
Mace Tyrell.
Grand Maester Pycelle.
Daario.
The Blackfish.
Walder Frey.
Dolorous Edd.
Wun Wun.

Okay apart from Bronn... (insert monthy python sketch)...

Tormund - It could be argued he's broken from the point of view that for most of his life he hated the Southerners "anyone south of the wall", but accepted he couldn't survive without them.

Bronn - When he "betrayed" his friend, Tyrion for the better lifestyle he was becoming accustomed to, he looked broken.

Mace Tyrell - He's an embarrassment - pretty much everyone knows this - if not himself. He's a shell of the person he's expected to be.

Grand Maester Pycelle, has broken promises of his profession, and seems afraid for his life in almost every scene.

Darrio - half the man he was, pretty much a lap dog of Dany

Blackfish - hard one alright, but he's less of a man with his missing fingers.

Walder Frey - he's only relatively recently got some backbone (post red wedding) and he still has an inferiority complex.

Dolorous Edd - Not the most confident person, but hard to describe as broken to be fair. But, if broken it's hardly going to be newsworthy, it's almost a certainty Castle Black will fall.

Wun Wun - Not sure falls under the category of man.

intheclouds · 31-05-2016 01:08PM

Its Davos not Blackfish missing fingers!!

I forgot to add - Ramsay - he aint broke yet

Avatar MIA · 31-05-2016 01:10PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Hot Pie

But a boy, and as a follow up to Dolorous Ed.

Most if not all the Night's Watch could be considered broken men. Most were sent there for being rapists/murderers.

And those that thought it a noble cause (Jon) would have been disillusioned soon after arriving.

Dolorous Ed, he has seen what little honour that remained of the night's watch shattered once Jon (His Lord Commander) was "killed" by fellow Night's Watch men. He certainly looked pretty broken in the room guarding Jon's "dead" body.

Avatar MIA · 31-05-2016 01:11PM

intheclouds wrote: »

Its Davos not Blackfish missing fingers!!

I forgot to add - Ramsay - he aint broke yet

As a man he's pretty broken. You might get a pass on Blackfish

PressRun · 31-05-2016 01:12PM

I assume there'll be a bit of action at Riverrun this episode. Brienne vying for the Blackfish's support on behalf of Jon and Sansa and the Freys and Lannisters trying to get him to yield. I would have thought the broken man would be Edmure Tully or possibly the Blackfish will be broken when the Freys/Lannisters threaten to kill Edmure?

Season 6 Episode 7 "The Broken Man" - Speculation Thread

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