When is next Saturday?

26-05-2016 04:32PM

I would have thought "Saturday week" is the clearest of any phrases being discussed in the thread to be honest. There is no room for debate on it its always the Saturday after the Saturday that is approaching. Don't see any confusion or why its an abomination.

The King of Moo · 26-05-2016 04:45PM

Brayson Thoughtless Bottle wrote: »

I would have thought "Saturday week" is the clearest of any phrases being discussed in the thread to be honest. There is no room for debate on it its always the Saturday after the Saturday that is approaching. Don't see any confusion or why its an abomination.

Would you consider that to still hold true on a Sunday?

For example, on Sunday 29th May, will Saturday 04th or 11th June be Saturday week?

rubadub · 26-05-2016 04:45PM

Brayson Thoughtless Bottle wrote: »

I would have thought "Saturday week" is the clearest of any phrases being discussed in the thread to be honest.

"this saturday" is just as clear to me. Leave out the ambigious "next" and I can't see how anyone would be in doubt.

Seems like some are cheating themselves in an attempt to make themselves look correct and make it look obvious. They do this by not using "next" on its own.

e.g. if you say

"this Friday I'm babysitting but next Friday I'm going on the piss"

Then there should be no doubt the "next" is referring to friday week. But if it was just "next Friday I'm going on the piss" there would be doubt, so just simply do not use next.

HensVassal · 26-05-2016 04:47PM

average_runner wrote: »

But if you tell these people to go next door, they go to the first house!

In the morning you don't refer to the time later in the day as "next evening" even though it's the next evening coming. You refer to it as "this" evening.

Evenings are exclusively within the confines of a specific time period..i.e. a day.

"This evening we'll stay in and the next evening we'll go out"

Though most people use the term "tomorrow evening"

This concept works perfectly well when referring to the days of the week as well but the "next Saturday/Saturday week" mob of knuckleheads went and fucked it up just because when the timeframe expands from this day to this week they have some kind of brain fart and can't grasp the concept that they are now in this week as well as in this day. It's like they don't see a week as a legitimate period of time. They only pay heed to what day they are living in. Fucking savages.

HensVassal · 26-05-2016 04:53PM

Brayson Thoughtless Bottle wrote: »

I would have thought "Saturday week" is the clearest of any phrases being discussed in the thread to be honest. There is no room for debate on it its always the Saturday after the Saturday that is approaching. Don't see any confusion or why its an abomination.

It's unecessary but it was created to facilitate those who had a problem understanding this and next. All that gang did was scrap the this and replace it with next....thus creating the need for a new definition of a day next week that may not yet have pass this week.

sKeith · 26-05-2016 04:57PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

Would you consider that to still hold true on a Sunday?

For example, on Sunday 29th May, will Saturday 04th or 11th June be Saturday week?

11th of June, every time. How do you not get this?

Saturday week = Saturday after next. [where next = this

]

PabloAndRoy · 26-05-2016 04:58PM

HensVassal wrote: »

In the morning you don't refer to the time later in the day as "next evening" even though it's the next evening coming. You refer to it as "this" evening.

Evenings are exclusively within the confines of a specific time period..i.e. a day.

"This evening we'll stay in and the next evening we'll go out"

Though most people use the term "tomorrow evening"

This concept works perfectly well when referring to the days of the week as well but the "next Saturday/Saturday week" mob of knuckleheads went and fucked it up just because when the timeframe expands from this day to this week they have some kind of brain fart and can't grasp the concept that they are now in this week as well as in this day. It's like they don't see a week as a legitimate period of time. They only pay heed to what day they are living in. Fucking savages.

You seem to have some idea that the English language is based on some set of rules and that some people are breaking those rules. That's not how English, or most other languages for that matter, actually work in practice. Now there is such a thing as bad grammar, but very often language is ambiguous without being incorrect. Variations can occur within a few kilometres. That's the nature of language and saying "that it isn't how it should be, it should be the way I think it is" is delusional and self important.... give me knuckleheads any day.

The King of Moo · 26-05-2016 05:06PM

sKeith wrote: »

11th of June, every time. How do you not get this?

Saturday week = Saturday after next. [where next = this ]

Not get what?

I was curious about his system, and wanted to check it remained consistent after the Saturday of the current week had passed, so I asked.

I can imagine someone thinking Saturday week always referred to the Saturday of the following week.

Ragnar Lothbrok · 26-05-2016 05:15PM

I'm never going to use "this", "next" or "Saturday week" ever, ever again just in case someone who disagrees with my usage decides to physically attack me, which wouldn't be too strange judging by the emotions this discussion seems to have stirred up here :eek:

Seems safer to never let anyone know your future plans at all, just keep them guessing

HensVassal · 26-05-2016 05:51PM

Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »

I'm never going to use "this", "next" or "Saturday week" ever, ever again just in case someone who disagrees with my usage decides to physically attack me, which wouldn't be too strange judging by the emotions this discussion seems to have stirred up here :eek:

Seems safer to never let anyone know your future plans at all, just keep them guessing

No, you'll do as I say or be the subject of a campaign of vitriol.

So what are you doing THIS weekend?

26-05-2016 05:52PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

Would you consider that to still hold true on a Sunday?

For example, on Sunday 29th May, will Saturday 04th or 11th June be Saturday week?

It's the 11th, how could it be the 4th as that's "next Saturday".

rubadub wrote: »

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Then there should be no doubt the "next" is referring to friday week. But if it was just "next Friday I'm going on the piss" there would be doubt, so just simply do not use next.

You are right that there should be no doubt but it's the above that's creating doubt by using the "next" incorrectly. You are not going on the piss next Friday you are baby sitting next Friday and going on the piss Friday week.

I can't understand how people can visualise next Friday as being what is actually Friday week, it's madness!

Edit Actually I'm forgetting tomorrow is actually Friday I was thinking from Sunday persepective from my replay above. When tomorrow is Friday referring to "next Friday would mean the Friday in next week but on Tuesday saying next Friday would mean the 27th of may.

EICVD · 26-05-2016 05:55PM

This Saturday is the 28th, next Saturday is the 4th. Could you not just of said can I make a booking for the 4th of June, saving all this confusion & potentially family break up debate.......

Ragnar Lothbrok · 26-05-2016 05:59PM

HensVassal wrote: »

No, you'll do as I say or be the subject of a campaign of vitriol.

So what are you doing THIS weekend?

Same as I do every weekend - trying to take over the world :cool:

Maireadio · 26-05-2016 07:13PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

Now if you're looking for some quantitative data regarding meaning in language then you're out of look because a) you would need a huge survey and b) meaning is always going to be somewhat fluid and apparently aribtrary in language. I've already tried to demonstrate this.

Yes you have, unconvincingly. Your input to this has been as anecdotal as anyone else's.

Maireadio · 26-05-2016 07:18PM

HensVassal wrote: »

Look at some of the other retarded construct they made up.

15:45 is referred to as "Quarter of four" ..Jesus wept.

Well, I'm not one of the people who likes to run down the American use of the English language. English only started to become standardised in the 19th century, so different Englis-speaking areas standardised differently. Communication between different English-speaking countries would have been much harder hence the lack of consensus.

galljga1 · 26-05-2016 10:02PM

Still loving this thread.
I eagerly await the 'next' post whether or not it folllows immediately after.

LordSutch · 26-05-2016 11:12PM

This Saturday is the day after tomorrow, Saturday week is the one after that, and next Saturday ??? Well maybe its in two days time? Or more probably its the same as Saturday week?

I would say it's not crystal clear what next Saturday means, its open to debate...

galljga1 · 28-05-2016 09:32AM

Just heard an add on Q102 quoting "next Saturday June 4th".

Jack Killian · 28-05-2016 12:05PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

That is not how next is used in this context. Word meanings are context dependent. Next [day] means [day] in next week.

However "next day" (no square brackets) means the very next day, not the one in the next week.

Jack Killian · 28-05-2016 12:06PM

galljga1 wrote: »

Just heard an add on Q102 quoting "next Saturday June 4th".

That was probably recorded last Saturday.....

Maximus Alexander · 28-05-2016 12:07PM

galljga1 wrote: »

Just heard an add on Q102 quoting "next Saturday June 4th".

Funnily enough, I think both camps would agree on that.

galljga1 · 28-05-2016 12:33PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Funnily enough, I think both camps would agree on that.

Today, yes but opinions will differ as the week progresses.

sKeith · 30-05-2016 11:54AM

Next Saturday is the 4th of June.

The King of Moo · 30-05-2016 12:13PM

Next Saturday is last Thursday, 29th February 1986.

When is next Saturday?

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