Why are cakes and pastries left out for flies to hop off of them in shops?

ED E · 26-05-2016 12:43AM

Shergar6 wrote: »

Its not being fussy to not want a few dozen people's dead skin cells/germs in the food i am buying.

My main point is how does it get past Health and Safety inspectors?

Because HSA inspectors are there to be check that employees won't get burned, cut etc.

FSA, who ARE responsible, know that its statistically insignificant. Raw chicken at the deli mixing with cooked chicken etc will make you sick, food being left open for 12-16 hrs is very unlikely to.

Ohbethehokey · 26-05-2016 12:45AM

@rightisright

I see the video, i'm aware of that and i ask, so what? how many has it killed?

Robsweezie · 26-05-2016 01:02AM

why would you discriminate against flies like that? fly feeding is the most natural thing in the world, they deserve food too. if it bothers you so much then look away, better yet walk away, and take your bigotry with you. i cant believe that in 2016 OP thinks its still acceptable to peddle this type of discrimination against the winged ones.

RIGHTisRIGHT · 26-05-2016 01:07AM

Ohbethehokey wrote: »

@rightisright

I see the video, i'm aware of that and i ask, so what? how many has it killed?

Why are you asking me the same question twice?
I already straight out said nobody.

You then ignored my point I said it is dirty and disgusting.
I said I would not buy food off a shelve without it being properly packaged.

You then responded about too much packaging being harmful to the environment.

Snots germs and all other manner of living things can get on open food.
I won't be buying it.:)

makingmecrazy · 26-05-2016 01:28AM

ixoy wrote: »

When I was on holidays in Marseille, there was a small stand selling pastries. A number of wasps were crawling over the pastries that were being sold. Made me feel ill looking at it.

Are you sure that wasn't a stand selling pet wasps and the baked goods you saw was actually their food?

Ohbethehokey · 26-05-2016 01:30AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Why are you asking me the same question twice?
I already straight out said nobody.

You then ignored my point I said it is dirty and disgusting.
I said I would not buy food off a shelve without it being properly packaged.

You then responded about too much packaging being harmful to the environment.

Snots germs and all other manner of living things can get on open food.
I won't be buying it.:)

Well you responded with a video as if you had uncovered something new.

Yes unnecessary extra packaging for sensitive souls does destroy the environment more than is necessary.

Lots of things can get on open food, what of it? It won't kill you.

sure animals and fish have **** inside them. Fish covered in Listeria. Chicken salmonella. Thats without being uncovered. I buy lots of uncovered food from markets. Everything from bread to smoked fish.

Would you drink cat **** coffee? I can't think of the name offhand, but cats eat coffe beans which are then retrieved from the poo and brewed. Quite the delicacy.

RIGHTisRIGHT · 26-05-2016 01:37AM

Ohbethehokey wrote: »

Well you responded with a video as if you had uncovered something new.

Yes unnecessary extra packaging for sensitive souls does destroy the environment more than is necessary.

Lots of things can get on open food, what of it? It won't kill you.

sure animals and fish have **** inside them. Fish covered in Listeria. Chicken salmonella. Thats without being uncovered. I buy lots of uncovered food from markets. Everything from bread to smoked fish.

Would you drink cat **** coffee? I can't think of the name offhand, but cats eat coffe beans which are then retrieved from the poo and brewed. Quite the delicacy.

Responding to the two points in bold.
Yes I am a sensitive soul and I avoid fish because sea food tends to have lots of worms in it.
I avoid pork because it can have tapeworm eggs in it.

As regards you 2nd points about that coffee I just laugh my ass off at the rich drinking that crap for €500 per cup or whatever it is.:D

RIGHTisRIGHT · 26-05-2016 01:42AM

:D

ProudDUB · 26-05-2016 01:55AM

It's not so much the germ factor that pisses me off, it's the freshness factor. I've eaten from many a buffet & salad bar, or had cakes & buns that were out in the open for hours. I have never been sickened by any of them. What irritates me is that fresh cakes and bread go hard, if left exposed to the open air for a few hours.

Now that summer ( or what passes for it :rolleyes: ) is here, we fire up the BBQ to cook our dinner a couple of nights a week. My local Supervalu does these gorgeous crusty bread rolls that are perfect to stick a burger or a grilled chicken fillet into. Only thing is, if you go in after work to pick up a few of said rolls, they are hard as fcuk, as they have been sitting out in the open air since mid morning.

It's the same with the local coffee shop. They get in these incredible pastries on weekends, that are baked in a fabulous artisan bakery. If you go in at 10am, they are lovely and gooey and soft. If you go in 3pm, they have lost that lovely softness, as they have been sitting out in the open, completely uncovered, for about 7 hours. Drives me bloody demented !

People - cover your bread & cake products up, to keep them fresh. It's hardly rocket science !!!

c1ans7even · 26-05-2016 01:58AM

used to work in mace and the bakery stuff still isn't covered
people had asked me the same before as to why and i brought it up with the owner a few times especially in the summer with the flies etc.
but he didn't care ..just to cheap to go buy some plastic covers
he also made us leave the maple peacans, doughnuts muffins etc. out for 3 days straight before being sold off cheaper on the 4th day before he came along everything everyday was fresh at least
we did have tongs in every basket at least to minimise the people touching stuff concern

Ohbethehokey · 26-05-2016 02:00AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Responding to the two points in bold.
Yes I am a sensitive soul and I avoid fish because sea food tends to have lots of worms in it.
I avoid pork because it can have tapeworm eggs in it.

As regards you 2nd points about that coffee I just laugh my ass off at the rich drinking that crap for €500 per cup or whatever it is.:D

You must be hungry :pac: call NASA for some sterile food supplies...

The coffe comes in a lovely package

FunLover18 · 26-05-2016 02:03AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

Neither me nor the OP have claimed anybody has been killed.

It's is disgusting yuk.
If I am paying for food I want it wrapped.

How's it supposed to get into the wrapper? No matter what you do food is going to get exposed to germs. Fruit and veg grow out in the open think how many creepy-crawlies were on them before they were picked. Do you think all the pickers have sanitized their hands or are wearing gloves? Are the plants where processed food is made perfect, yes they have to meet health and safety regulations but they're not clean rooms and the employees don't wear hazmat suits. Where is the wrapping and packing made and who's handled that?

RIGHTisRIGHT · 26-05-2016 02:07AM

Ohbethehokey wrote: »

You must be hungry :pac: call NASA for some sterile food supplies...

The coffe comes in a lovely package

Did you see that animal?
They must me really confused cats people killing each other to pick up their crap.:D

Also I wonder who discovered that coffee was better after being picked out of cat crap?:eek:

RIGHTisRIGHT · 26-05-2016 02:13AM

FunLover18 wrote: »

How's it supposed to get into the wrapper? No matter what you do food is going to get exposed to germs. Fruit and veg grow out in the open think how many creepy-crawlies were on them before they were picked. Do you think all the pickers have sanitized their hands or are wearing gloves? Are the plants where processed food is made perfect, yes they have to meet health and safety regulations but they're not clean rooms and the employees don't wear hazmat suits. Where is the wrapping and packing made and who's handled that?

As John Cleese said don't labor the point.
Things don't have to be perfect just good enough.
Food sitting in the open in a shop for hours is not good enough for me by a long shot.

FanadMan · 26-05-2016 02:30AM

This is what you get in Lidl Finland. Why the hell is it not mandatory everywhere?

https://ninasroadlesstraveled.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/img_2871.jpg

All bread and pastries are covered. They are all in separate trays with tongs for each. How hard would it be to do this here? In my local Lidl I've seen kids pick out stuff and lick them and then the parent just dropped it back in the basket. Same with bread hitting the floor....look around....ok, no staff watching so back in the basket.

:mad:

FunLover18 · 26-05-2016 03:28AM

RIGHTisRIGHT wrote: »

As John Cleese said don't labor the point.
Things don't have to be perfect just good enough.
Food sitting in the open in a shop for hours is not good enough for me by a long shot.

Fair enough, it doesn't bother me but the germs you don't want landing on your food or going to land on the packaging, other people will have handled the packaging and more than likely you're going to going to transfer all that to the food any way with your own hands. I think you're chasing an illusion but each to their own.

Stigura · 26-05-2016 03:47AM

Collie D wrote: »

A chef will most likely (although not certainly) have washed his hands before serving it up whereas a kid's hands have probably been up his nose before they go in the pick and mix.

Reminded me; I was in my butchers the other day. As I'm waiting, some woman is talking to him. Then, she randomly stuck her finger up her nose, mid conversation. Had a good root around.

Thought: Are ye gonna fcuking eat that, love?

Mortified look. " No! ".

Can I then?

Mortified look.

Fcuking people! Just fcuk off, will ye?!

Esel · 26-05-2016 04:13AM

Does ear wax count? What about money? As long as it's not Typhoid Mary... In the future (or even now) people will eat fly burgers. As long as the burger is well-done,.. Be grand.

OldNotWIse · 26-05-2016 01:44PM

Its actually gross to think about all the thousands of dead skin cells in your food. Even if the person preparing your food washes their hands first, there'll still be dead skin cells in your food. I try not to think about it but its difficult

OldNotWIse · 26-05-2016 01:47PM

Stigura wrote: »

Reminded me; I was in my butchers the other day. As I'm waiting, some woman is talking to him. Then, she randomly stuck her finger up her nose, mid conversation. Had a good root around.

Thought: Are ye gonna fcuking eat that, love?

Mortified look. " No! ".

Can I then?

Mortified look.

Fcuking people! Just fcuk off, will ye?!

On the luas the other day this yoke that was only down from the trees carried out some deep excavation work on his nostrils even though we were all crammed together like sardines. What made it worse was when he "found" something he would examine it, roll it into a ball with his thumb and forefinger and then flick (:eek:) it. I glared at him and he saw me glaring and kept going, moving on to the other nostril! Fúcking Neanderthal.

c68zapdsm5i1ru · 26-05-2016 01:53PM

I never buy cake or bread that's displayed in open cabinets. I've seen too many kids sneeze over them or maul them, and on one occasion witnessed two young boys having a sword fight with a couple of baguettes in Tesco before putting them back in the basket.

jam_mac_jam · 26-05-2016 02:49PM

I don't understand it as far as freshness is concerned either. Would they not want to preserve it for longer so it can be sold. You don't have to wrap it just put a cover over it.

Story Bud? · 26-05-2016 03:45PM

Temptamperu wrote: »

and kids with their rotten little hands touching all the tasty treats.

Swear to fcuk. I was in a hotel a while back and two kids came in for breakfast without their parents.

The younger one mauled everything. He picked up a pastry, played with it, smelled it, and put it back. He then actually planted his face into one of the bowls of cereals.

Needless to say I did not eat anything that was "out" for the rest of the stay :P

refusetolose · 26-05-2016 06:22PM

recently we started getting individually wrapped cakes in cork...

http://i.imgur.com/wL91BcT.jpg

syklops · 26-05-2016 06:39PM

Stigura wrote: »

Reminded me; I was in my butchers the other day. As I'm waiting, some woman is talking to him. Then, she randomly stuck her finger up her nose, mid conversation. Had a good root around.

Thought: Are ye gonna fcuking eat that, love?

Mortified look. " No! ".

Can I then?

Mortified look.

Fcuking people! Just fcuk off, will ye?!

Summer wind · 26-05-2016 07:21PM

I'd never buy any food item that's uncovered. Flies that can give birth to live maggots and have spent their day in cowpats and then go on top of the cream cake or bread in the shop. People coughing sneezing and touching food and maybe throwing it back on the shelf. Then you are supposed to buy it. Yuck.

26-05-2016 07:32PM

None of this sort of thing bothers me. I've never cared and have never had a problem because of it.

Kids sneezing or whatever annoys me because I could get ill but the small stuff is good for your immune system.

pickarooney · 26-05-2016 07:50PM

thegreatgonzo wrote: »

Yes. Salad bars, pick and mix sweets, etc etc. I get a mental image of a sweaty itchy looking man simultaneously scratching his arse and sneezing before reaching in and handling all the good stuff. It's my mother's fault, she painted this picture when we were children.

Did she draw other stuff or was it more of the same early Van Gogh she was into?

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 26-05-2016 08:19PM

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Its actually gross to think about all the thousands of dead skin cells in your food. Even if the person preparing your food washes their hands first, there'll still be dead skin cells in your food. I try not to think about it but its difficult

Great.

Shergar6 · 26-05-2016 11:05PM

FanadMan wrote: »

This is what you get in Lidl Finland. Why the hell is it not mandatory everywhere?

https://ninasroadlesstraveled.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/img_2871.jpg

All bread and pastries are covered. They are all in separate trays with tongs for each. How hard would it be to do this here? In my local Lidl I've seen kids pick out stuff and lick them and then the parent just dropped it back in the basket. Same with bread hitting the floor....look around....ok, no staff watching so back in the basket.

:mad:

See now THIS is perfect. Maybe we should all start tweeting/facebooking lidl/aldi etc about it. They are definitely losing some custom because a few of my friend don't buy them either, especially in late afternoon. The only time i will purchase is if i am in early in the morning.

Why are cakes and pastries left out for flies to hop off of them in shops?

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