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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • #4202
    Titzon Toast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭Titzon Toast


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    How did we end up with such a violent generation?
    They didn't lick it off the stones did they?
    There has been violence since the dawn of time.


  • #4203
    ...And Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    seerscryer wrote: »
    I do not believe that their is this type of corruption endemic in the Gardai! Quashing speeding fines and very occasionally there was a Garda identified as giving information to criminals as in the Gilligan case.

    However, there may be some disgruntled Gardai, with bad wages or lack of overtime, working conditions, lack of equipment or all of the above, that may leak information to the press, but I cannot see the type of corruption that is expressed on this forum from time to time. But this is only my opinion and I could be wrong, as could all of us in our opinions.

    I don't believe you, there was a thread in conspiracy theories started by someone called John Monk, 2 weeks ago about the above, although, there was wild accusations about the gardai colluding with criminals to assinate rivals(I don't believe that bit) it was shut down by an admin asap for legal reasons.


  • #4204
    seerscryer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭seerscryer


    eamonnq wrote: »
    Which twitter account is that ?

    I believe Mr Gangster Gossip is referring to my twitter account! Incidentally, I was never known as @Saorsean but I did like his stuff and do agree with trying to relay any information that i believe is true, rather than been spoon fed my opinions by any of the crime reporters currently doing the rounds!


  • #4205
    jonnny68
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    Am i the only one who wonders just how many garda were deployed every day during the height of the water meter installations and protests it was utter madness, i remember seeing a photo online and there must have been over 30 garda observing 3 men installing water meters and no more than a dozen protesters, i mean WTF is this all about, the only way to put a serious stop to these killings is 24/7 surveillance of these people, the garda evidently know who all these people involved are,yet they appear to be able to roam the city murdering at will, how many more people are going to die and innocent people as well like Martin O Rourke, or others just by mere association with the Hutchs have been singled out and murdered.

    It was done with the general in the 80s and after a while it freaked him out and he got paranoid and realistically this is the only way, well the logical solution would be to legalise drugs, control and tax them but only progressive and forward thinking countries do that, and sadly we are a long long way off that.


  • #4206
    Stephen Hero
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 33 ✭Stephen Hero


    seerscryer wrote: »
    This man had a 7 year old son, who now will grow up without a father!

    He still has a mother. I have neither.


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  • #4207
    themandan6611
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭themandan6611


    Stephen Hero wrote: »
    He still has a mother. I have neither.

    ah bless, begrugding a 7 year old his mother, nice one


  • #4208
    Stephen Hero
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 33 ✭Stephen Hero


    According to the lefties, this is all the fault of the middle class and the inner city people are "abandoned".

    The ordinary working people who pay mortgages are the ones being abandoned here. This drivel of people of inner city needing more facilities, more support etc is the sh*t of a bull. Those who claim to live in poverty live in city centre Dublin with jobs and third level colleges on their doorsteps, yet, many CHOOSE not to take up opportunities. That state has failed the inner city…by providing them with corpo houses and numerous social welfare payments, deis schools and other family supports making them being dependant with a sense of entitlement. There are many of us in inner city Dublin who work, pay mortgages and pay private childcare.


  • #4209
    Peter Anthony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    Am i the only one who wonders just how many garda were deployed every day during the height of the water installations and protests, i remember seeing a photo and there must have been over 30 garda observing 3 men installing water meters and no more than a dozen protesters, i mean WTF is this all about, the only way to put a serious stop to these killings is 24/7 surveillance, the garda evidently know who all these people involved are,yet they appear to be able to roam the city murdering at will, how many more people are going to die and innocent people as well like Martin O Rourke, or others just by mere association with the Hutchs have been singled out and murdered.

    It was done with the general in the 80s and after a while it freaked him out and he got paranoid and realistically this is the only way, well the logical solution would be to legalise drugs, control and tax them but only progressive and forward thinking countries do that, and sadly we are a long long way off that.

    650 extra Guards posted to Donegal to protect Prince Charles today. Says it all really where the priorities are

    Average joes like the rest of us can do one , as long as our betters the Royals and the upper classes are okay


  • #4210
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    Am i the only one who wonders just how many garda were deployed every day during the height of the water meter installations and protests it was utter madness, i remember seeing a photo online and there must have been over 30 garda observing 3 men installing water meters and no more than a dozen protesters, i mean WTF is this all about, the only way to put a serious stop to these killings is 24/7 surveillance of these people, the garda evidently know who all these people involved are,yet they appear to be able to roam the city murdering at will, how many more people are going to die and innocent people as well like Martin O Rourke, or others just by mere association with the Hutchs have been singled out and murdered.

    It was done with the general in the 80s and after a while it freaked him out and he got paranoid and realistically this is the only way, well the logical solution would be to legalise drugs, control and tax them but only progressive and forward thinking countries do that, and sadly we are a long long way off that.
    I wonder if the low-level violent water protests in estates up and down the land used up so much of the Garda budget that they can't afford to put enough people on this kind of stuff?


  • #4211
    seerscryer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭seerscryer


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Is it just me, or are there a lot of "after the events" raiding of houses/flats people?

    Why not before. Where is their intelligence, and I'm not talking about IQ here either.

    Hmm.

    There have been dozens of raids on the homes of those believed to be involved with both sides. In fairness the Gardai have been on this! Some places have been raided several times! These raids have not been reported or have been reported in perfunctory manner when the raids had not produced an arrest or a drug bust etc!


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  • #4212
    monty_python
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭monty_python


    Titzon Toast wrote: »
    I just watched the cctv footage of the murder, chilling stuff.

    Do you have a link to it?


  • #4213
    Mech1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Mech1


    seerscryer wrote: »
    There have been dozens of raids on the homes of those believed to be involved with both sides. In fairness the Gardai have been on this! Some places have been raided several times! These raids have not been reported or have been reported in perfunctory manner when the raids had not produced an arrest or a drug bust etc!

    Raiding houses takes lots of manpower for a few hours, put 2 armed garda 24/7 on ALL the known players, then have them report instantly every movement to someone with a bit of cop on to work it all out.


  • #4214
    Mech1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Mech1


    monty_python wrote: »
    Do you have a link to it?

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/captured-on-cctv-the-chilling-moment-as-gareth-hutch-is-targeted-midmorning-outside-his-dublin-home-34745038.html


  • #4215
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,475 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Mech1 wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/captured-on-cctv-the-chilling-moment-as-gareth-hutch-is-targeted-midmorning-outside-his-dublin-home-34745038.html

    I might be a tad sensitive but do we need to see a man being pumped full of bullets?


  • #4216
    Allyall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    Collie D wrote: »
    I might be a tad sensitive but do we need to see a man being pumped full of bullets?

    You don't see anything, probably why they can show it on the newspaper sites.


  • #4217
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,921 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Collie D wrote: »
    I might be a tad sensitive but do we need to see a man being pumped full of bullets?


    It's what is happening on our streets. It is reality. Don't look by all means.


  • #4218
    seerscryer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭seerscryer


    Mech1 wrote: »
    Raiding houses takes lots of manpower for a few hours, put 2 armed garda 24/7 on ALL the known players, then have them report instantly every movement to someone with a bit of cop on to work it all out.

    Perhaps? I believe you make a good point! But in this instance I would guess that the Gardai have profiled those on each side most likely to perpetrate attacks or those who would be most likely to give logistic support for such attacks, given that the Gardai had predicted an imminent attack!

    Therefore, I believe that the Gardai made a good move (in this case) by disrupting the planning of such attacks, as the potential perpetrators would be wondering where would be next and this allied with armed checkpoints on the street, should and probably did thwart some attacks!

    However, the attack on Barr and Gareth Hutch have shown us that this tactics can be overcome by a determined and motivated perpetrator(s)!


  • #4219
    ...And Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    Have you not seen best Gore?


  • #4220
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Titzon Toast wrote: »
    They didn't lick it off the stones did they?
    There has been violence since the dawn of time.

    Yes but why does Ireland have the highest gun related murders in Europe?

    Why doesn't the other European countries have it as high as us?


  • #4221
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,475 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Strumms wrote: »
    It's what is happening on our streets. It is reality. Don't look by all means.

    Reality or not it just seems voyeuristic to me although I do now stand corrected by the post above yours pointing out they don't show the actual moment.


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  • #4222
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    Peter Anthony wrote: »
    650 extra Guards posted to Donegal to protect Prince Charles today. Says it all really where the priorities are
    Yeah, you can blame that on the Republicans who would kill him.


  • #4223
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,475 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Yes but why does Ireland have the highest gun related murders in Europe?

    Why doesn't the other European countries have it as high as us?

    I was sceptical about this but quick search shows you aren't far off if you meant EU. Second to Belgium as far as I can see. Still just over half the Swiss rate (highest legal gun ownership in world I think) and miles behind the obvious Latin American candidates.

    Interesting


  • #4224
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Yes but why does Ireland have the highest gun related murders in Europe?

    Why doesn't the other European countries have it as high as us?

    Where you getting these stats?


  • #4225
    vlad2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭vlad2009


    What a read!


  • #4226
    Allyall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    We don't even make this list
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

    You can sort it by clicking on the headers.


  • #4227
    Mech1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Mech1


    Same video but better edited, still no gore so safe to look at if your inclined to do so.
    http://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/watch-horror-moment-gareth-hutch-11381479


  • #4228
    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Don't suppose the Hutch's will be paying water charges.:rolleyes:

    Nor have I :rolleyes:


  • #4229
    UsedToWait
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭UsedToWait


    ^ Am I missing something or does that not look like footage shot from a window on a phone, rather than CCTV footage?


  • #4230
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,921 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Collie D wrote: »
    Reality or not it just seems voyeuristic to me although I do now stand corrected by the post above yours pointing out they don't show the actual moment.


    I think voyeuristic maybe only if you get a kick out of watching it. In which case you would be a bit ****ed up lets be honest. It's reality and as there isnt any gore as such i dont think its a bad thing for people to see what is going on... on OUR streets.. lets not forget that.


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  • #4231
    Benevolent Misanthrope
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭Benevolent Misanthrope


    UsedToWait wrote: »
    ^ Am I missing something or does that not look like footage shot from a window on a phone, rather than CCTV footage?
    It's a Garda filming a computer screen with his phone. You can see windows alright, courtesy of Microsoft.


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