Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

DamienDarts · 24-05-2016 05:42PM

It's all so one sided its strange!
Surely these guys in the Hutch crew are going to retaliate or atleast try when they do not have much else to live for?
Prison or death around the corner so surely they will attempt a big one?

Gamebred · 24-05-2016 05:45PM

DamienDarts wrote: »

It's all so one sided its strange!
Surely these guys in the Hutch crew are going to retaliate or atleast try when they do not have much else to live for?
Prison or death around the corner so surely they will attempt a big one?

They cant hit anyone,the boys they want are untouchable they aint sitting around flat complexes waiting to be murdered,they are in spain dubai and god knows where else calling the shots to the runners doing the hits.

tomofson · 24-05-2016 05:45PM

coniosumadre wrote: »

Someones been arrested over Eddie Hutch. In their 40's though so unlikley it's one of the principle people involved I would imagine.

And hes being detained at mountjoy garda station, not a million miles away from this mornings shooting. Most likely nothing will come of it I think a few people have been arrested in connection with it now. Hopefully these arrests and searches will lead to a charge later on in the year.

tomofson · 24-05-2016 05:46PM

Gamebred wrote: »

They cant hit anyone,the boys they want are untouchable they aint sitting around flat complexes waiting to be murdered,they are in spain dubai and god knows where else calling the shots to the runners doing the hits.

Of course they can hit someone, just nobody of importance I still dont know why they haven't killed any of Kinahans guns for hire or some low level associate just to try and even out the score a little.

Riverireland · 24-05-2016 05:50PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

7 murders in Dublin in this feud now since February. This is seriously out of control now.

It is an absolute disgrace made even worse when our Taoiseach stand up in the Dail and says there is nothing he can do about a feud between two family's. Does the man even have the mildest grasp of what is going on and the implications of him stating in public that he can not even aspire to have control over it. You couldn't make this up, he should be made to live in there for a month on his own, sure he could walk to work from there.

I hope the international media broadcast that statement by him, if tourism is hit and there is a loss to the exchequer they will care more about that than the loss of lives.

Strumms · 24-05-2016 05:50PM

tomofson wrote: »

Of course they can hit someone, just nobody of importance I still dont know why they haven't killed any of Kinahans guns for hire or some low level associate just to try and even out the score a little.

Thats what I thought. If you are to believe reports the Kinahans are moving freely and going about their business as usual.. maybe the Hutch's were just waiting for things to die down but little chance of that it seems the Costa lot wont be happy until there isn't a single one left by looks of things... Hutch might be better off trying to fight fire with fire and get a high profile target of their own...

tomofson · 24-05-2016 05:52PM

Strumms wrote: »

Thats what I thought. If you are to believe reports the Kinahans are moving freely and going about their business as usual.. maybe the Hutch's were just waiting for things to die down but little chance of that it seems the Costa lot wont be happy until there isn't a single one left by looks of things... Hutch might be better off trying to fight fire with fire and get a high profile target of their own...

Exactly thats why I thought Murtagh was back in the country maybe he came back cause something was being planned and they needed him for something.
Its better than go down swinging than not fighting back at all, I'm amazed its being this one sided.

Old Bill · 24-05-2016 05:56PM

Rebelkid wrote: »

ERU are one of the Best armed teams in Europe in terms of operational experience, training, selection etc.. So don't be calling them useless when the real issue is there is not enough of them!

Lol those clowns couldn't fight sleep.

The the mere sight of a gun and the gardas will sue the state for compensation.

DamienDarts · 24-05-2016 05:56PM

They cant hit anyone,the boys they want are untouchable they aint sitting around flat complexes waiting to be murdered,they are in spain dubai and god knows where else calling the shots to the runners doing the hits.[/quote]

What I'm told is different, that there is plenty of names from the kinihan kartle roaming freely around Dublin..
Fat fella is constantly in the independent about Dublin!

Gamebred · 24-05-2016 05:57PM

They wouldnt blow the fluff off a cappuchino the hotel job proved it,a gang of them with ak's and they managed to murder one target,they have done nothing since or even attempted it,I would bet good money they will be all wiped out with zero loss to the Kinahan faction.

tomofson · 24-05-2016 06:01PM

Gamebred wrote: »

They wouldnt blow the fluff off a cappuchino the hotel job proved it,a gang of them with ak's and they managed to murder one target,they have done nothing since or even attempted it,I would bet good money they will be all wiped out with zero loss to the Kinahan faction.

Although there is only one side winning this hands down, I would say they will manage one or two strikes before its all over, But yeah one faction by the looks of things will be wiped out and there will be limited damage done to the K camp. Its handy for a big money man like Gerry cause he can run like a coward and hide in a villa somewhere, while the small fish are left back here getting taking out one by one. I'd have to say if I was in the Hutch camp I'd be very disapointed with Gerry running leaving the rest behind.

Strumms · 24-05-2016 06:01PM

Gamebred wrote: »

They wouldnt blow the fluff off a cappuchino the hotel job proved it,a gang of them with ak's and they managed to murder one target,they have done nothing since or even attempted it,I would bet good money they will be all wiped out with zero loss to the Kinahan faction.

It certainly is panning out that way. Looks like the Kinahan gang have the connections and contacts also to get things done fast and efficiently. The Hutch crowd can't it seems and they can't do it themselves as they are all under the watch of the Gardai

Strumms · 24-05-2016 06:05PM

tomofson wrote: »

I'd have to say if I was in the Hutch camp I'd be very disapointed with Gerry running leaving the rest behind.

An excellent point. Gareth who was shot this morning was looking for a change of address from the council so he obviously didn't have the direct means himself to get out of harms way. Look's like Gerry is distancing himself from the whole scenario which begs the question is he washing his hands of them all... Either way you'd think he would throw a few bob around and keep them safe and maybe attempt some peace deal with the K gang but then again I wouldn't think he would have the leverage behind him for that tactic to work... either way his side seem ****ed.

The flying mouse · 24-05-2016 06:06PM

tomofson wrote: »

Of course they can hit someone, just nobody of importance I still dont know why they haven't killed any of Kinahans guns for hire or some low level associate just to try and even out the score a little.

Strumms wrote: »

Thats what I thought. If you are to believe reports the Kinahans are moving freely and going about their business as usual.. maybe the Hutch's were just waiting for things to die down but little chance of that it seems the Costa lot wont be happy until there isn't a single one left by looks of things... Hutch might be better off trying to fight fire with fire and get a high profile target of their own...

As far as i know all the targets with the exception of martin o Rourke have been directly or indirectly involved in some way with the gunattack, logistics or transport in the attack on the regency hotel.

If the monks want to start taking out easy targets belonging to the costas I am quite sure the same can be done to them. They know that and the costas know that.

You will note that Eddie hutch and Noel Duggan are now not down as innocent victims in the media .

StringerBell · 24-05-2016 06:06PM

A gang of them with AK's as you say, but they were not there to just kill randomly, they had targets. Don't see how that is evidence they wouldn't blow fluff off a cappuchino, prefer it to be that way then them just going in with their machine guns blasting at anything that moved and massacring a load of innocent people anyway.

They are overmatched for sure against the Kinahans, but it seems they were backed into a corner and were going to be squeezed into oblivion anyway if they didn't try strike back.

coniosumadre · 24-05-2016 06:07PM

Gamebred wrote: »

They wouldnt blow the fluff off a cappuchino the hotel job proved it,a gang of them with ak's and they managed to murder one target,they have done nothing since or even attempted it,I would bet good money they will be all wiped out with zero loss to the Kinahan faction.

I kinda agree. That's why I find all this talk about the "Hutch Army" or "Hutch Faction" so funny. For some people I think this just replaces the gap left by Love/Hate in their lives. Not that I believe tabloids (Although Mick from the Star, is probably a level above Sleeping Cusack, Williams and Tallant) but the Star has reported that the Monk has left for good, and with all thats happened the past few weeks, it certainly doesn't sound implausible.

tomofson · 24-05-2016 06:09PM

The flying mouse wrote: »

As far as i know all the targets with the exception of martin o Rourke have been directly or indirectly involved in some way with the gunattack, logistics or transport in the attack on the regency hotel.

If the monks want to start taking out easy targets belonging to the costas I am quite sure the same can be done to them. They know that and the costas know that.

You will note that Eddie hutch and Noel Duggan are now not down as innocent victims in the media .

Eddie Hutch is still referred to as innocent.

and surely the Hutch crowd could take out a hitman or two on their rival side I dont think anyone would argue that they are not legitimate targets.

Strumms · 24-05-2016 06:10PM

what role is Noel Duggan suspected of having in the regency attacks ?

StringerBell · 24-05-2016 06:14PM

Strumms wrote: »

what role is Noel Duggan suspected of having in the regency attacks ?

Something to do with the transport, or something....I dunno, I haven't actually followed to closely I literally started posting before thinking......ok Im done

The flying mouse · 24-05-2016 06:14PM

Strumms wrote: »

what role is Noel Duggan suspected of having in the regency attacks ?

Trying to get the backing of major republicans in the north to take the side of the monks, they told him to feck of and take the Dublin ra with him, and I wouldent be surprised if they then then shoped him to the costas.

It was in the media.

Atlantic Dawn · 24-05-2016 06:15PM

They are looking for information on the movements of a 5 series BMW registration number 02D39051 yet the car they actually took away on the back of a truck is a 7 Series BMW with that registration and when you check that registration on Cartell it is a 7 Series, if the Garda Press office don't now how to identify a model of car they shouldn't be in their job, #BasicKnowledgeWouldHelp

https://www.cartell.ie/ssl/servlet/beginStarLookup?registration=02+D+39051

Two handguns were recovered from the scene and gardaí say they are interested in the movements of a black 5 Series BMW registration 02 D 39051.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0524/790549-dublin-firearms/

Spekaing at a media briefing at Mountjoy Garda Station, Superintendent Daniel Flavin said gardai are interested in the movement of a black 5 Series BMW.

"We're interested in the movement of a black 5 Series BMW. The registration is 02-D-39051. We’re interested in its movements not alone this morning but in the days leading up to this.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/gardai-carry-out-house-raid-just-hours-after-murder-of-the-monk-nephew-gareth-hutch-34742466.html

tomofson · 24-05-2016 06:16PM

The flying mouse wrote: »

Trying to get the backing of major republicans in the north to take the side of the monks, they told him to feck of and take the Dublin ra with him,and wouldent be surprised if they then then shoped him to the costas.

So with that said there is limited chance of retaliation in relation to the Barr killing. So Hutch crew are more or less on their own as no other faction paramilitary or not would back them against the Kinahans. There is a few people in Ireland at loggerheads with the Kinahans why dont they all try to unite to form one crew and then try take them on when they are a bit more powerful.

...And Justice · 24-05-2016 06:30PM

tomofson wrote: »

So with that said there is limited chance of retaliation in relation to the Barr killing. So Hutch crew are more or less on their own as no other faction paramilitary or not would back them against the Kinahans. There is a few people in Ireland at loggerheads with the Kinahans why dont they all try to unite to form one crew and then try take them on when they are a bit more powerful.

Your missing the point here, the Kinahan "war in Dublin" is being monitored closely by major international drug cartels, they can't look like pussy's, they have decided to eliminate the hutch gang to possibly fend off another international gang, pointing and laughing at them and taking them on. Don't forget the Kinahans get their drugs from the Sinaloa cartel.

For them now it's a process of ellimination, look like chumps or kill the enemy, the problem I see is an escalation to ruthless, brutality which sucks in multiple innocent victims, which is the norm in Mexico and in other parts of the world.

tomofson · 24-05-2016 06:33PM

...And Justice wrote: »

Your missing the point here, the Kinahan "war in Dublin" is being monitored closely by major international drug cartels, they can't look like pussy's, they have decided to eliminate the hutch gang to possibly fend off another international gang, pointing and laughing at them and taking them on. Don't forget the Kinahans get their drugs from the Sinaloa cartel.

For them now it's a process of ellimination, look like chumps or kill the enemy, the problem I see is an escalation to ruthless, brutality which sucks in multiple innocent victims, which is the norm in Mexico and in other parts of the world.

I understand all that and I have thought of that to, but the serious money men in the drugs game may respect a bit of restraint shown so less police heat is on them.

Gamebred · 24-05-2016 06:34PM

Just a random q,The way us and the media are claiming the ''kinahan'' gang are behind this and the other murders,are they not in a position to sue media orgs for dragging their name through the dirt considering they have no murder convictions or anything like it.

Allyall · 24-05-2016 06:35PM

Gamebred wrote: »

Just a random q,The way us and the media are claiming the ''kinahan'' gang are behind this and the other murders,are they not in a position to sue media orgs for dragging their name through the dirt considering they have no murder convictions or anything like it.

I think they have other things on their mind, and probably don't need the money.

Gamebred · 24-05-2016 06:38PM

Allyall wrote: »

I think they have other things on their mind, and probably don't need the money.

Thats true,just wonder how the user of their name in connection to these murders without evidence would go down in a libel case.

...And Justice · 24-05-2016 06:40PM

tomofson wrote: »

I understand all that and I have thought of that to, but the serious money men in the drugs game may respect a bit of restraint shown so less police heat is on them.

Not a hope, police are paid off, even in this country. They have the run of the place. It's like when the general was murdered, total surveillance. Then none.....

They know, and so does the Directorate of Military Intelligence ("G2").

bajer101 · 24-05-2016 06:44PM

tomofson wrote: »

So with that said there is limited chance of retaliation in relation to the Barr killing. So Hutch crew are more or less on their own as no other faction paramilitary or not would back them against the Kinahans. There is a few people in Ireland at loggerheads with the Kinahans why dont they all try to unite to form one crew and then try take them on when they are a bit more powerful.

Unless there is something to the rumours of the Scottish gang and George Mitchell also being involved.

...And Justice · 24-05-2016 06:46PM

bajer101 wrote: »

Unless there is something to the rumours of the Scottish gang and George Mitchell also being involved.

The fúcking penguin? I thought he gave up crime?

Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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