Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

The flying mouse · 24-05-2016 01:18PM

There was an armed checkpoint 200 hundred metres away from this mornings shooting, according to paul Reynolds on rte radio, just now. Its obvious that the costa gangs don't give them much credit or are not afraid of bumping into them...

20Cent · 24-05-2016 01:18PM

Any theories about why the anti-gang legislation is not being used for this feud?

Remember at the time it was considered draconian but seems to be left on the shelf for this.

Uncle Ben · 24-05-2016 01:21PM

20Cent wrote: »

Any theories about why the anti-gang legislation is not being used for this feud?

Remember at the time it was considered draconian but seems to be left on the shelf for this.

No need for it. We're in safe hands with Noreen and Francis at the helm.

h2005 · 24-05-2016 01:24PM

Coat22 wrote: »

Not sure why - what are they supposed to do? Babysit and shadow every criminal in the city? He was given a GIM last week.

Seen this also:
https://twitter.com/mickthehack/status/735063038164914176

If he felt his life was in danger then why didn't he use some of his (or his uncles) "legitimate means".

These guys flout the law. Makes fools of the rest of us and then expect to be given new safe houses and 24 hours garda protection? I think not.

Why?? Because it would seem one gang are being allowed wipe out another with impunity, with innocent people getting caught up in it.

Dyr · 24-05-2016 01:26PM

Gardai certainly seem to be more interested in harrasing disso's for wearing their action man uniforms than actually stepping on these boys toes.

tomofson · 24-05-2016 01:26PM

It would seem like this feud is the finals, while the crumlin - drimnagh and sheriff street feud's was just the play offs.

Snickers Man · 24-05-2016 01:26PM

tomofson wrote: »

Definitely not, the Hutch family are so deep rooted in the north inner city they have a hard time leaving it because its the only place they can call home so they all live in close proximity to each other.

According to the 1911 Census everyone in Ireland called Hutch at that time lived in Cork!

Feckin' blow ins!

Benevolent Misanthrope · 24-05-2016 01:31PM

Uncle Ben wrote: »

No need for it. We're in safe hands with Noreen and Francis at the helm.

I get the sense that you don't think women should be involved in this stuff.

Coat22 · 24-05-2016 01:36PM

h2005 wrote: »

Coat22 wrote: »

Not sure why - what are they supposed to do? Babysit and shadow every criminal in the city? He was given a GIM last week.

Seen this also:
https://twitter.com/mickthehack/status/735063038164914176

If he felt his life was in danger then why didn't he use some of his (or his uncles) "legitimate means".

These guys flout the law. Makes fools of the rest of us and then expect to be given new safe houses and 24 hours garda protection? I think not.

Why?? Because it would seem one gang are being allowed wipe out another with impunity, with innocent people getting caught up in it.

So you spend millions of taxpayers money, money that could be spent elsewhere, on protecting a major crime family so that another crime family can't kill them? In the meantime head of same crime families live in luxury in Spain, Dubai etc.

Granted an innocent person was killed but innocent people are killed everyday in traffic accidents etc. I'm not saying the Garda should go out and actively encourage this but there's a limit to what they and the authorities can do if scumbag 1 and scumbag 2 want to kill each other and I for one don't want my taxes used in protecting them

eamonnq · 24-05-2016 01:38PM

Bambi wrote: »

Gardai certainly seem to be more interested in harrasing disso's for wearing their action man uniforms than actually stepping on these boys toes.

I think it was North of the border that those guys were arrested, so not the Gardai.

Flatzie_poo · 24-05-2016 01:43PM

Coat22 wrote: »

So you spend millions of taxpayers money, money that could be spent elsewhere, on protecting a major crime family so that another crime family can't kill them?

It's the innocent people in the surrounding areas the guards are trying to protect.

Hutch mob had links to dissidents. Those exact dissidents were intercepted mid-delivery with a large quantity of explosives not too long ago.

Most of the Kinahan mob are living in Crumlin. A massively dense, built up area. That and explosives don't go well together.

that's why the guards are there.

STB. · 24-05-2016 01:46PM

Rakish Paddy wrote: »

Internal feud within the family? Or am I missing something?

What. Where did you get that from ? You are reading stuff that's not there.

My point is that the reality of all this madness thats going on includes the targeting members of a particular family some of which are from Champions Avenue. The latest murder is a stones throw from there.

Given that, where were the ERU ?

More to the point, last time it was a bystander in broad daylight.

You would think that was enough to wake up the Commissioner. But no, another murder in broad daylight.

honreal · 24-05-2016 01:46PM

Why can't the ERU and Ranger Wing not join forces and eliminate all these assholes? - Im not even kidding or trying to derail the convo but they have the expertise and skills to make this happen under the radar. Top secret stuff.

que the human rights activists banging down my door on this one.

chillin117 · 24-05-2016 01:47PM

Ahh Paul Williams on Liveline, What a surprise :eek:

Dyr · 24-05-2016 01:47PM

eamonnq wrote: »

I think it was North of the border that those guys were arrested, so not the Gardai.

Gardai were at it recently too, the dissos love fancy dress.

Rakish Paddy · 24-05-2016 01:49PM

STB. wrote: »

What. Where did you get that from ? You are reading stuff that's not there.

Your post seemed to imply that someone living on Champions Ave. was responsible for today's killing, but I see now you meant that today's victim may have been targeted because of his relation to the family on Champions Ave.

eamonnq · 24-05-2016 01:51PM

STB. wrote: »

What. Where did you get that from ? You are reading stuff that's not there.

My point is that the reality of all this madness thats going on includes the targeting members of a particular family some of which are from Champions Avenue. The latest murder is a stones throw from there.

Given that, where were the ERU ?

More to the point, last time it was a bystander in broad daylight.

You would think that was enough to wake up the Commissioner. But no, another murder in broad daylight.

200m away apparently.

seerscryer · 24-05-2016 01:51PM

bajer101 wrote: »

Apparently their first getaway car wouldn't start and they had to abandon it and run to a second car which drove them away. And one of the gunman's masks slipped. Hopefully the guards can get some DNA evidence from the car and CCTV in the area might have caught footage of the the guy's face.

Independent have named the deceased as Gareth Hutch, Dutch crimesite named him yesterday in an online article!
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/face-of-latest-member-of-hutch-gang-shot-dead-in-dublin-inner-city-attack-34742325.html

Benevolent Misanthrope · 24-05-2016 01:52PM

honreal wrote: »

Why can't the ERU and Ranger Wing not join forces and eliminate all these assholes? - Im not even kidding or trying to derail the convo but they have the expertise and skills to make this happen under the radar. Top secret stuff.

que the human rights activists banging down my door on this one.

To be fair, I don't think you have to be a mad human rights zealot to oppose state-sponsored murder.

The flying mouse · 24-05-2016 01:53PM

So according to P willy, The deceased garret hutch was certainly involved with the attack on the regency hotel and was also a taxi driver, he also hinting that there is a mole in the Gardaí giving the costas up to date information...

and on a much smaller note how did he get his taxi licence if he a very well known criminal ??

honreal · 24-05-2016 01:54PM

Benevolent Misanthrope wrote: »

To be fair, I don't think you have to be a mad human rights zealot to oppose state-sponsored murder.

true, it is a whacky idea but it would put an end to lot of problems and be a heavy discouragement to any wannabe scumbags when they look around and see what happens when you go down that road.

seerscryer · 24-05-2016 01:55PM

eamonnq wrote: »

STB. wrote: »

What. Where did you get that from ? You are reading stuff that's not there.

My point is that the reality of all this madness thats going on includes the targeting members of a particular family some of which are from Champions Avenue. The latest murder is a stones throw from there.

Given that, where were the ERU ?

More to the point, last time it was a bystander in broad daylight.

You would think that was enough to wake up the Commissioner. But no, another murder in broad daylight.

200m away apparently.

Commissioner is probably happy enough it takes the dairy off of her answering those uncomfortable questions about the Higgins Tribunal! Very sad for his family, I believe that he has a young child! Devastating whatever his background, always those left behind suffer!

STB. · 24-05-2016 01:56PM

Rakish Paddy wrote: »

Your post seemed to imply that someone living on Champions Ave. was responsible for today's killing, but I see now you meant that today's victim may have been targeted because of his relation to the family on Champions Ave.

It didn't imply anything of the sort! You've some imagination pal!

What I said was

Everyone knows who lives in Champions Avenue which is about a 100 yards from where this incident took place.

The Garda Commisioner should be considering her position at this stage. Another shooting in broad daylight.

NY style police forcing required at this stage. Only one man needs to be hauled in and told to put a a stop to it immediately.

And my point was given that there is widespread targeting of anyone who has that surname, that you would think that there would be a armed garda presence where some of them live, yet someone was shot within a very short distance. What a complete cockup.

tomofson · 24-05-2016 01:56PM

The flying mouse wrote: »

So according to P willy, The deceased garret hutch was certainly involved with the attack on the regency hotel and was also a taxi driver, he also hinting that there is a mole in the Gardaí giving them up to date information...

and on a much smaller note how did he get his taxi licence if he a very well known criminal ??

How many people do they reckon were involved in the attack on the regency? Seems like every character getting murdered had some sort of minute involvement

chillin117 · 24-05-2016 02:02PM

tomofson wrote: »

How many people do they reckon were involved in the attack on the regency? Seems like every character getting murdered had some sort of minute involvement

The Kinahan mob seem to know everyone involved in the Regency. Some mole somewhere is singing like a bird

Allyall · 24-05-2016 02:04PM

Was the guy murdered this morning, party to the original money "lending" to the Kinahans?

The flying mouse · 24-05-2016 02:05PM

tomofson wrote: »

How many people do they reckon were involved in the attack on the regency? Seems like every character getting murdered had some sort of minute involvement

Six/five went in and one lad in van, 4/5 cars with drivers to pick them up, people to hide weapons and cars before hand, people who put the attackers up in safe houses after attack, maybe 30 ? and not forgetting the big lads who did the the actual organising of it as the above are just pawns/soldiers.

tomofson · 24-05-2016 02:08PM

The flying mouse wrote: »

Six went in and one lad in van, 4/5 cars with drivers to pick them up, people to hide weapons and cars before hand, people who put the attackers up in safe houses after attack, maybe 30 ? and not forgetting the big lads who did the the actual organising of it as the above are just pawns/soldiers.

Seems like they planned a spectacular that failed miserably, they may have another one of them up their sleeve but i seriously doubt that I would say the regency was either make or break

coniosumadre · 24-05-2016 02:14PM

tomofson wrote: »

The flying mouse wrote: »

Six went in and one lad in van, 4/5 cars with drivers to pick them up, people to hide weapons and cars before hand, people who put the attackers up in safe houses after attack, maybe 30 ? and not forgetting the big lads who did the the actual organising of it as the above are just pawns/soldiers.

Seems like they planned a spectacular that failed miserably, they may have another one of them up their sleeve but i seriously doubt that I would say the regency was either make or break

I'd seriously doubt it. The 3 that are in custody will have to be released or charged by tomorrow. Could be a tough week for the Hutches.

chillin117 · 24-05-2016 02:18PM

coniosumadre wrote: »

I'd seriously doubt it. The 3 that are in custody will have to be released or charged by tomorrow. Could be a tough week for the Hutches.

Todays shooting could help break those still in custody

Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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