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Do you run in cycle lanes?

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  • #92
    walshb
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    Penalty points would sort it!


  • #93
    2RockMountain
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    Macy0161 wrote: »
    I'm not sure it's clear cut that the pedestrian is the more vulnerable in a pedestrian/ cyclist collision to be honest.

    It's a long way from clear cut:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/cyclist-dies-after-collision-with-pedestrian-in-phoenix-park-1.2636430


  • #94
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    2RockMountain wrote: »
    It's a long way from clear cut:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/cyclist-dies-after-collision-with-pedestrian-in-phoenix-park-1.2636430

    One incident says precisely nothing. Also the cyclist was twice the pedestrian's age.


  • #95
    2RockMountain
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    davedanon wrote: »
    One incident says precisely nothing. Also the cyclist was twice the pedestrian's age.

    Do you come across many incidents in Ireland where pedestrians get killed by cyclists?

    And what's age got to do with it? Neither party would have a clue or have any control over the age of the other party. If the person is vulnerable because of age, you're not going to know until you're on top of them on the ground.


  • #96
    davedanon
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    2RockMountain wrote: »
    Do you come across many incidents in Ireland where pedestrians get killed by cyclists?

    Do you come across many where cyclists are killed after crashing into pedestrians, beyond the one you mention?
    2RockMountain wrote: »
    And what's age got to do with it? Neither party would have a clue or have any control over the age of the other party. If the person is vulnerable because of age, you're not going to know until you're on top of them on the ground.

    Because you cited an example in which the deceased was twice as old as the pedestrian. Dur.


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  • #97
    laura_ac3
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    davedanon wrote: »
    Do you come across many where cyclists are killed after crashing into pedestrians, beyond the one you mention?



    Because you cited an example in which the deceased was twice as old as the pedestrian. Dur.

    Dur. Is that a recent acronym for a useful or positive debating contribution?


  • #98
    davedanon
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    It's not an acronym, and no.


  • #99
    2RockMountain
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    davedanon wrote: »
    Do you come across many where cyclists are killed after crashing into pedestrians, beyond the one you mention?

    I'll take that as a No then.
    davedanon wrote: »
    Because you cited an example in which the deceased was twice as old as the pedestrian. Dur.
    But didn't you just say that you can't draw any conclusions from one example? Make your mind up FFS.


  • #100
    davedanon
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    2RockMountain wrote: »
    I'll take that as a No then.

    When did the question become one of pedestrians being specifically killed by bikes? The point is, there's a hierarchy of vulnerability. Only an idiot would argue that it doesn't run in the following order: pedestrian--->cyclist---->motorcyclist---->car---->large van/truck etc.
    2RockMountain wrote: »
    But didn't you just say that you can't draw any conclusions from one example? Make your mind up FFS.

    Because YOU introduced the example as though it did. Can't you follow your own arguments?


  • #101
    Maximus Alexander
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    As both a cyclist and a runner, I do sometimes run in cycle lanes, but only in the direction facing oncoming traffic and will move off well in advance if a cyclist is approaching.

    People who stroll down cycle lanes facing away from traffic are the spawn of satan. Runners are annoying too, but tend to be less of an obstruction because they're moving more quickly and don't tend to weave from side to side like walkers with their faces buried in smart phones.


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  • #102
    walshb
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    Arguing now about who is likley to be hurt more badly should a collison occur between a runner/walker in a cycling lane and a cyclist. Completely missing the point about the stupid reckless ignoarance/arrogance of the walker/runner using a cycling lane in the first place.

    BTW, a collision could result in injuries to both parties. Who suffers more depends on the collision circumstances.


  • #103
    davedanon
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    ....and that's where I leave the discussion, now that any semblance of genuine debate will be cast to the four winds.


  • #104
    thomas anderson.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭thomas anderson.


    I'd be more worried about the people driving in the bike lane.


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