Compulsory Military Service

love humanity · 21-05-2016 04:24PM #1

Are you in favour of compulsory military service for one year after leaving school in Ireland?

What are the benefits of doing this?

What are the drawbacks of doing this ?

eeguy · 21-05-2016 04:25PM

Atari jaguar

21-05-2016 04:26PM

No, everyone I know who did it in Austria said it was a waste of time with nothing to do after the first few weeks except play cards

s4uv3 · 21-05-2016 04:29PM

I'd be more in favour of compulsory retail work for a year.
That'd scare any young person into pursuing a job that they're suited for

Mushy · 21-05-2016 04:29PM

No, it should be Compulsory Retail Work though

s4uv3 · 21-05-2016 04:30PM

genericguy · 21-05-2016 04:31PM

Nope. I'm not joining the army to give my life for people I've never met, and when I have children I won't be allowing them to join the military either. Politicians start and end arguments with their pens, if they want to scrap let them suit up and get into the trenches themselves.

The Irish military is the ultimate pointless career. No participation in wars of any sort, all they do is sit around refereeing in Muslim villages because Islamic countries can't be trusted to behave in a civilised manner.

Buona Fortuna · 21-05-2016 04:32PM

Is this a homework question?

DontThankMe · 21-05-2016 04:34PM

No what good would it do when when Ireland is a "neutral country".

love humanity · 21-05-2016 04:34PM

I see benefits in some ways... extreme physical fitness, learning to defend yourself and others should the need ever arise, survival skills, learning to think strategically, building strong character and confidence...

Water John · 21-05-2016 04:36PM

Generic, you managed to squeeze a lot of your prejudices into one post.
some of the christians aren't very civilised either but then that would not suit your bias.

I can't see any use to compulsory service. Unless you come from a 'meet the fockers' mindset.

Lurkio · 21-05-2016 04:37PM

Mushy wrote: »

No, it should be Compulsory Retail Work though

.....jaysus, its compulsory service, not suffering....

21-05-2016 04:38PM

love humanity wrote: »

I see benefits in some ways... extreme physical fitness, learning to defend yourself and others should the need ever arise, survival skills, learning to think strategically, building strong character and confidence...

Home much of this actually happens when military service is compulsory though? When you bring in large numbers of people standards and funding drop

fedor.2. · 21-05-2016 04:38PM

love humanity wrote: »

I see benefits in some ways... extreme physical fitness, learning to defend yourself and others should the need ever arise, survival skills, learning to think strategically, building strong character and confidence...

Ya, but what about the Irish Army

BlondeMoment · 21-05-2016 04:39PM

I suppose there would be no harm in teaching some people discipline, teamwork, communication and responsibility, amongst an abundance of other skills , before they enter the big bad world.

love humanity · 21-05-2016 04:39PM

riffmongous wrote: »

Home much of this actually happens when military service is compulsory though?

Only if very very well organised and funded

Timberrrrrrrr · 21-05-2016 04:40PM

love humanity wrote: »

Are you in favour of compulsory military service for one year after leaving school in Ireland?

What are the benefits of doing this?

What are the drawbacks of doing this ?

Maybe not for school leavers but I think military academies for "troubled teens" or military type camps for repeat offenders would be a good start.

If they refuse to be productive members of society then drill dicipline into them until they learn. It should be an option though, jail or military.

Barry Badrinath · 21-05-2016 04:41PM

genericguy wrote: »

The Irish military is the ultimate pointless career. No participation in wars of any sort, all they do is sit around refereeing in Muslim villages because Islamic countries can't be trusted to behave in a civilised manner.

Nail on the head!

But to answer the OP....1 year mandatory military service is of no benefit to the person or the State.

21-05-2016 04:42PM

BlondeMoment wrote: »

I suppose there would be no harm in teaching some people discipline, teamwork, communication and responsibility, amongst an abundance of other skills , before they enter the big bad world.

You'd be better off learning this spending some time with a civil service like the fire brigade or red cross (this is actually a possibility in Austria and previously Germany as an alternative to compulsory military service)

The Randy Riverbeast · 21-05-2016 04:44PM

Sounds like a lot of time and money wasted. Im sure there could be benefits for some people but there are probably better alternatives.

21-05-2016 04:46PM

love humanity wrote: »

Only if very very well organised and funded

Which is unlikely to happen with a large number of people doing compulsory service. Israel would be the exception I guess, but they have very specific circumstances, look at Dedovshchina in the Russian army to see how badly it can go

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 21-05-2016 05:03PM

love humanity wrote: »

Are you in favour of compulsory military service for one year after leaving school in Ireland?

What are the benefits of doing this?

What are the drawbacks of doing this ?

Never seen Full Metal Jacket...?

I'd be in favour of some form of community service, but not military. Neither the military nor the individual ever benefits from people being forced to be there.

Conall Cernach · 21-05-2016 05:04PM

I'd be in favour of 1 year national service if it wasn't necessarily military. Like a community service type thing.

timthumbni · 21-05-2016 05:13PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Maybe not for school leavers but I think military academies for "troubled teens" or military type camps for repeat offenders would be a good start.

If they refuse to be productive members of society then drill dicipline into them until they learn. It should be an option though, jail or military.

Have you been watching "Bad Lads Army"? :-)

SimonTemplar · 21-05-2016 05:18PM

This thread reminded me of this great clip from Yes Prime Minister:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

corner of hells · 21-05-2016 05:31PM

My friends son is due to be conscripted soon into Israeli army.
I'm hoping he might get me some of those little stun grenades they use , they surely couldn't miss a box or two

That is all.

Del2005 · 21-05-2016 05:45PM

love humanity wrote: »

I see benefits in some ways... extreme physical fitness, learning to defend yourself and others should the need ever arise,

If everyone has to complete the training then you won't be able to to defend yourself as everyone else will have the same knowledge.

Timberrrrrrrr · 21-05-2016 05:55PM

Del2005 wrote: »

If everyone has to complete the training then you won't be able to to defend yourself as everyone else will have the same knowledge.

Scrotes would be less likely to attack if they think you have the knowledge to defend yourself

Topper Harley · 21-05-2016 05:59PM

genericguy wrote: »

Nope. I'm not joining the army to give my life for people I've never met, and when I have children I won't be allowing them to join the military either. Politicians start and end arguments with their pens, if they want to scrap let them suit up and get into the trenches themselves.

The Irish military is the ultimate pointless career. No participation in wars of any sort, all they do is sit around refereeing in Muslim villages because Islamic countries can't be trusted to behave in a civilised manner.

Do you know that once your children are old enough to join the military, there'll be fuck all you can do to stop them if that's what they want to do?

As for "refereeing in Muslim villages because Islamic countries can't be trusted to behave in a civilised manner", if you don't have a clue about something, you'd be better off just saying nothing rather than spouting such tripe.

Lurkio · 21-05-2016 06:08PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Scrotes would be less likely to attack if they think you have the knowledge to defend yourself

But as the service is compulsory, said scrotes will be as likely as you to have served in it, I'd imagine.

Arsemageddon · 21-05-2016 06:08PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Scrotes would be less likely to attack if they think you have the knowledge to defend yourself

.....or alternatively the scrotes would be more capable of attacking you after a programme of intensive physical training and being thought hand to hand combat techniques.

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