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  • 01-04-2016 07:03PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭


    hello friends,

    It's time I started logging again. I previously had an account and log which I asked to be deleted a while back to preserve some privacy but happy to start up again....I won't say the old username but suffice to say you all use to slag my lovely hair and I'm still hooked up with a lot of you on strava.

    This log will mainly stick to recording sessions and will focus less on trying to be entertaining, talking about life in general, or putting myself under undue pressure with lofty goals ;-)

    I've been doing about 20-30 miles a week for the last year without racing but I've a window of opportunity to perhaps up my training now exams are finished so logging again will keep me honest.

    The long term goal is a sub 3 marathon. I've seen a few of my peers on this forum achieve this over the past couple of years and I've been delighted to follow their progress.

    Pbs are currently:

    Marathon 3:17
    Half 1.28
    10k 39:4x
    10 mile 66:XX
    5k 19:17

    I currently get to 1 speed session a week and do a long run at the weekends rotating between the Phoenix park or a mountain run around hellfire, Cruagh, the waterworks or tibradden.

    Rest of my running is commuting in/out of work. It's probably not enough to go sub 3 but let's see how I get on. The main thing is to enjoy the running without pressure.

    I'll strive for a weekly update from here on in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Welcome back, best of luck with the new log.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    Great to see you back! You need to update your Strava pb's btw!

    Great username. Will be following your journey to your sub 3 :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭wowzer


    Good to see you back, bumping into me yesterday must have reignited something in you.

    Regarding your goal, if I can do it then you defo can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    a good week to kick things off -

    Tuesday - 9 miles including 4 x (600,400s)

    Wednesday - 3 miles runmute @ 8.23

    Thursday - 10 x 400s - bumped into Wowzer on the way to this, was good to catch up

    Friday - 3 miles am @ 8.03, 3 miles pm @ 8.40

    Sunday - 16 miles long run @ 8.37

    Today's long run was along the trails in the Phoenix Park, did it with the club which is something I rarely do and as a result I was brought along a new route for me of varying terrain. Really enjoyed it.

    Need a race to gauge my fitness - haven't raced since the Frank Duffy last August. Will find something soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Back in Black


    Welcome back. Love the username too


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    April 4-10

    Monday - 3 miles @ 8.15
    Tuesday - 6 x 800s - 3.17,3.10, 3.06, 3.08, 3.01, 3.03
    Thursday - 3 miles @ 8.13
    Friday - 3 miles @ 7.49

    15 miles in total. No weekend running due to unexpected trip away which meant I couldn't do the K Club 10k.


    April 11-17

    Monday - 3 miles @ 8.38
    Tuesday - AM 3 miles @ 8.13 , PM 4.5 miles @ 8.15
    Wednesday - 3 miles @ 7.57
    Friday - AM 3 miles @ 8.36, PM 3 miles @ 8.19
    Sunday - 18 miles long run @ 8.46

    37 miles in total.

    Delighted with this weeks long run, longest in over a year. So that's 3 x 16 and 1 x 18 mile long run in the past 5 weeks. Good going for me and sets me up well for the Achill Half Marathon in July.

    Will probably have to do next week's long run on Sunday solo. Have a loose plan to head from Marley Park in the afternoon for a 16 mile run up the mountains around Kilmashogue and Ticknock. Anyone interested in tagging along drop me a message.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭snailsong


    Just spotted the new log, Tom. Good luck with it, I look forward to following your progress, similar goals to myself.

    Also a big fan of the real Tom W. We should start a support group.:-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    Monday - 3miles@8.18
    Tuesday - am 3 miles @ 8.31, pm 8x400 in around 93 seconds each
    Wednesday - 3 miles @ 8.30
    Thursday - 3 miles @ 8.03 pm 6x400 in around 91 seconds each
    Friday - 3 miles @ 8.37
    Sunday - 16 miles @ 8.14

    40 miles in total. Very happy with the weeks work, I am rocking the Sunday morning long run consistently. Clear progress over the past few weeks, best run of training for 18 months. The plan is to do the tallaght 5k next week. The tan is coming on well too with the sunshine this week. All good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    Monday - 3 miles @ 7.41
    Tuesday - 3 x (4 x 200)
    Wednesday - 3 miles @ 8.21
    Thursday - 4 miles @ 8.30
    Friday - 3 miles @ 8.13
    Sunday- 3.1 miles @ 6.23 (Tallaght AC 5k 19:52)

    39 miles in total. Tallaght 5k today was a tale of two halves. I was pretty pumped up for my first run of the year and decided that I would try to tackle this course head on and go out fast and try and hold on. I'll let the splits tell the story from here;

    Mile 1 - 5.47
    Mile 2 - 6.19
    Mile 3 - 6.59

    Oh dear! I plainly started out at a pace that was unsustainable, letting the adrenaline take over and duly suffered. By Mile 3 I was in agony with a stitch, resulting in a laboured, painful finish.

    On the plus side its the fastest 1 mile and 2 mile splits I have ever recorded, on the downside I was hoping to get much closer to the low 19s.

    Still, it felt good to be back racing and with a smarter race strategy next time I'm sure I can chip away on that time. Looking at the Enfield 5k in a few weeks.

    Very well organised race, I'll be back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    Monday- 10 miles Medium long run @ 8.26
    Tuesday - 3 x 1 miles 6.40,6.39,6.47
    Wednesday - 3 miles easy @ 8.25
    Thursday - 6 miles easy @ 8.46
    Saturday - gym
    Sunday - 16 mile long run @ 8.25

    41 in total

    Another solid week and good long run in the bank. Reading the sub 3 thread on the main forum has me daydreaming about progression. Have a few hairy weeks with work coming up so will be a challenge to get miles in but ill do my best.

    Had a decent run Monday up to kilmashogue until a holy mother of a hail storm hit me, literally had to dive intonsome hedging to protect the face from rock size stones!

    Tuesday, caught the lunch time session with the trinity racers. Was a little disheartened with the slow pace. Find these lunch sessions tough, its as if the morning office work has sapped my energy.

    Sunday, usual highlight of the week, enjoyable run the the club. I've been running with a consistent cohort on these long runs which is great for dragging you along. The humidity made it a rather sticky affair in the phoenix park.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    Poor week. Something was not quite right with me, I had to suspend/abandon runs on Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday as I just had no energy at all. Was a busy week in work so maybe that's what caused it. I cancelled all weekend running including Sunday's long run to freshen up.

    Monday - AM 3 miles @ 8.19, PM 5.5 miles @ 8.17
    Tuesday - AM 3 miles @ 8.30, PM 2 miles ABANDONED
    Wednesday - 2 miles - ABANDONED
    Friday - 8 miles at 8.34 but had to walk 2 miles halfway through.

    18 miles in total


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    Race Report – Bob Heffernan 5k – 19.25

    Taking the weekend off was a good idea as I felt back to normal driving out to Enfield after work on Tuesday.

    Parking and registration was seamless and I soon found myself catching up with loads of familiar faces both from boards and other clubs. Felt good to be back socialising on the race scene. Pre- race I felt I could maybe hold a pace of around 6.15-6.20 which would bring me in around 19.30 and I had resolved to start off much more sensibly after racing out of the blocks at the Tallaght 5k recently.

    Start line was very amateur/farcical but I was pre warned about this and made sure I was close to the front row. Off we went, settlling nicely into a comfortable groove down the main road. Mile 1 was 6.10. We then turned onto a minor secondary road where I then began to feel the strain and the pack I was in began to spread out. Recognising that I would be ill advised to enter into the Red Zone this early I stepped off the gas slightly for a more sustainable pace. Mile 2 6.22

    This proved a good decision as I got a second wind approaching the final section. I regained 5 or 6 places and noticeably picked up the pace however I may have surged too early as with about 600m to go I developed an awful side stitch. I trundled on losing any sort of composed form pressing my hand into the side of my stomach and taking deep breaths. Eventually I got to the finish line after some encouragement from other races and spectators who could see my obvious discomfort and was pretty happy to note I didn't bleed too much time, final mile 6.10, finish time 19.25.

    On reflection I’m happy with my performance, gaining 20 seconds on my Tallaght time 2 weeks ago and close to a PB. Bodes well for the summer.

    Nice spread and atmosphere afterwards making this a good proper old fashioned race. None of the needless bells and whistles and fitness instructor/dance warms ups you see at other races.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,121 ✭✭✭tang1


    Well done, think I was in your company for few minutes Tuesday evening talking to overpronator and BackinBlack.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Well done S, might see you down the club at some stage? Also the site will need a race report!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    you're going well, I'm keeping an eye on Strava - some good sessions & long runs in there.
    Dunboyne on Tuesday 31st - you need a lift home? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    tang1 wrote: »
    Well done, think I was in your company for few minutes Tuesday evening talking to overpronator and BackinBlack.

    ah yes, I remember you, I must make sure to introduce myself properly the next time.
    adrian522 wrote: »
    Well done S, might see you down the club at some stage? Also the site will need a race report!

    Hi Adrian, I've been making the weekly Sunday club runs but the mid week sessions are harder to get to with work etc. Should be down occasionally over the next while though, will have to make a call of weather to follow the clubs marathon plan or not. I was thinking of doing a race report but there was only 1 other club member present as far as I know so didn't think there would be much interest and I don't have any photo's.
    you're going well, I'm keeping an eye on Strava - some good sessions & long runs in there.
    Dunboyne on Tuesday 31st - you need a lift home? ;)

    Thanks. Gonna drive myself this year (thank god says you) so I'd be happy to return the favour and pick you up this year!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    tomwaits48 wrote: »

    Hi Adrian, I've been making the weekly Sunday club runs but the mid week sessions are harder to get to with work etc. Should be down occasionally over the next while though, will have to make a call of weather to follow the clubs marathon plan or not. I was thinking of doing a race report but there was only 1 other club member present as far as I know so didn't think there would be much interest and I don't have any photo's.

    Nice one, I'm pretty much the opposite showing up Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday (or 2 of those 3) but not making the weekend run.

    I think I'm heading to Dunboyne too all going well.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    I notice there's a race report up there now in any case. You're off the hook!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    adrian522 wrote: »
    I notice there's a race report up there now in any case. You're off the hook!

    Pretty good report so it is too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    May 16-22
    • Monday - 3 miles easy @ 8.27
    • Tuesday - Bob Heffernan 5k Race - 19.25
    • Wednesday- 3 miles easy @ 8.31
    • Thursday - Session with TT Racers - 10 x 400 Splits : 93,89,91,90,90,92,88,90,91,92
    • Friday - 3 mies easy @ 8.25
    • Sunday - 14 miles medium long run @ 8.45

    34 miles in total.

    Took Tuesday's positive momentum into a good hard session on Thursday. Was aiming for around 90 seconds on each 400 which I hit so happy days.

    Sunday, I missed the club long run due to going out for a few beers Saturday night. I managed to get out in the evening and surprisingly got a 2 hour run in. I've certainly come on over the last 2 months. However, pace was slower than usual owing to the hangover/dehydration.

    Note to self : cop on! No point killing yourself 6 days of the week only to mess up the most important run of the week!

    Hoping to get 2 sharp sessions in this week ahead of the Dunboyne 5 mile next week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    May 23-29

    • Monday - 3 miles easy @ 8.30
    • Tuesday - 3 x 2k : 6.45, 6.44, 6.39
    • Wednesday - AM 3 miles easy@ 8.25, PM 3 miles easy @ 9.15
    • Thursday - 6 miles easy inclusing 2 mile fartlek @ 7.25
    • Friday - 5 miles easy @ 8.21
    • Sunday - 10 miles easy @ 9.00


    Tuesday was a big session for me, I was aiming to hit 6.20ish / 5k race pace and as you can see I fell short. It was still a good hard workout though. I'll still aim to target 6.20ish miles in Dunboyne this week to try and get under 32 minutes.

    33 miles in total.

    Starting to also think about marathon plans...will need to decide between the Sportsworld, Trinity Racers or P & D plan....or maybe a combination of all three?!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    What marathon are you targeting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    tomwaits48 wrote: »

    Starting to also think about marathon plans...will need to decide between the Sportsworld, Trinity Racers or P & D plan....or maybe a combination of all three?!

    I'll see you in Dunboyne!

    Be careful of combining the plans as each may have different aspects attached to it. You'll spend a lot of time wondering if 'that' session is better than 'this' session or why is that like that and not like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    adrian522 wrote: »
    What marathon are you targeting?

    Dublin - goal is to claim the 3.10 I should have done in 2014!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    I'd be interested to see what you decide with your plan. The BAA plan is one I've been looking at too if you want to add to the options you are considering:

    http://www.baa.org/races/boston-marathon/participant-information/boston-marathon-training-plan/level-four.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    Race Report - Dunboyne 5 mile - 32:32

    Superbly organised race as always. The plan was to go out around 6.20 to get home under 32 minutes (PB on this course from 2014 is 31:45)

    Splits:

    1 6.21
    2 6.24
    3 6.32
    4 6.43
    5 6.30

    A shade disheartening result on paper, but a good effort nonetheless. I felt I was running fine in the first 2 miles albeit I soon felt very thirsty...the heat obviously played a factor and from talking to people afterwards most people were a little slower than hoped. I didn't realise I had slowed in the fourth mile until the split flashed up...I was running in the same group so we must have collectively eased off.

    A couple of takeaway points to note:
    • The big difference between my training in 2016 v 2014 is no structured strength training. I definitely felt that helped me improve back in 2014 so maybe that has a part to play. The glute muscles aren't as strong now as they where then.
    • Another point to note is that, after my recent 5k, it was mentioned to me that I might me loosing concentration mid race if I can finish the last mile faster than my average pace, as I did then and in last night's race. I might switch the watch to KM's next time to receive more regular feedback mid race.
    • I developed a stitch again during the last mile....must research why that is happening in races.
    Fair play to all involved in organising the event.

    I wouldn't mind having a crack at the Irish Runner 5 mile in (hopefully) cooler conditions. I missed the sign up date so if anyone hear's of a spare number floating around drop me a PM please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    tomwaits48 wrote: »

    I wouldn't mind having a crack at the Irish Runner 5 mile in (hopefully) cooler conditions. I missed the sign up date so if anyone hear's of a spare number floating around drop me a PM please
    Check it out again - I think they extended the date to today (World Running Day - seen something on the Irish Runner FB page.
    Nice racing last night - good to catch up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    Check it out again - I think they extended the date to today (World Running Day - seen something on the Irish Runner FB page.
    Nice racing last night - good to catch up.

    good man, registered there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    Race Report - Irish Runner 5 mile - 33:38

    Very bad day at the office. In fairness I have been away abroad with work for a few nights so came into this a little tired and not having ran sharply since the Dunboyne race.

    The aim was simple as always - 6.20 pace. Splits were

    1. 6.08
    2. 6.26
    3. 6.36
    4. 6.54
    7. 7.10

    A total collapse :-( I got a stitch again, this time in Mile 3, and I totally fell apart as a result. I reckon a poor diet, lack of hydration and unsustainable pace is probably the cause.....perhaps I need to stop striving for the times I use to achieve and focus on where am I currently.

    Planning to do Dunshaughlin 10k on Saturday. I went sub 40 here for the first time last year. Doubt I'l get close to that on current form.

    Going to "start" a Marathon plan the next week and forget about jumping between groups and sessions...The Jack Daniels 2Q plan is currently prominent in my thinking, with P & D second. Looking back over my logs my biggest gains came in April - August 2014 when I was doing the Jack Daniels 4week plan....the 2Q one is a variant of this.....either way I will train by HR mainly and let the pace be what it is.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    tomwaits48 wrote: »
    Race Report - Irish Runner 5 mile - 33:38

    Very bad day at the office. In fairness I have been away abroad with work for a few nights so came into this a little tired and not having ran sharply since the Dunboyne race.

    The aim was simple as always - 6.20 pace. Splits were

    1. 6.08
    2. 6.26
    3. 6.36
    4. 6.54
    7. 7.10

    A total collapse :-( I got a stitch again, this time in Mile 3, and I totally fell apart as a result. I reckon a poor diet, lack of hydration and unsustainable pace is probably the cause.....perhaps I need to stop striving for the times I use to achieve and focus on where am I currently.

    Planning to do Dunshaughlin 10k on Saturday. I went sub 40 here for the first time last year. Doubt I'l get close to that on current form.

    Going to "start" a Marathon plan the next week and forget about jumping between groups and sessions...The Jack Daniels 2Q plan is currently prominent in my thinking, with P & D second. Looking back over my logs my biggest gains came in April - August 2014 when I was doing the Jack Daniels 4week plan....the 2Q one is a variant of this.....either way I will train by HR mainly and let the pace be what it is.....

    Tough run in the 5 miler - but you finished it, so a good tempo session ahead of Dunshaughlin.
    I made a huge mental jump by stopping being worried about where I was and concentrate on where I am right now.
    For the 10k this week, pick a time like sub 42 (or 41:30) and try to do it with a negative split.
    Maybe start out the 1st mile slower than planned ave pace - I done that in Dunboyne and felt great all the way through. When I look at my best races in the past, the 1st mile is always the slowest.

    If you have it in the tank in the last 2 miles you'll gain the time back rather than fading like you did in the 5 miler.

    For the marathon plan - what were you doing before you done the JD 4 week plan that made that effective. Is endurance a bigger issue for you this year that may imply P&D being a consideration??

    feel free to ignore this as well :)


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