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Wine.

  • 17-05-2016 09:09PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭


    Is there a noticeable difference for an uneducated heathen between a cheapo bottle of plonk for say a tenner and a decent drop of grape juice for around thirty or forty quid.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 357 ✭✭makingmecrazy


    Yes there is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭podgemonster


    Isnt there a thread specifically for you and your questions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭Wesser


    Those three posts just summed up
    Boards perfectly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭luftmensch


    Between 10 and 30 euro I'd imagine.


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  • Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kneemos you are very unappreciative of the gift you have been given. I'd love my own thread. A haven for my pondering and shíte talk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 246 ✭✭Utdfan20titles


    If you call it vino, your automatically a connoisseur and can't drink the cheap stuff anymore


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    No....it's all rank




    I once had cause to drink expensive enough wine and it was every bit as stink as that schooner cooking stuff you see at house parties


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭FizzleSticks


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    No, I love all wine equally.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    No....it's all rank




    I once had cause to drink expensive enough wine and it was every bit as stink as that schooner cooking stuff you see at house parties


    Don't think I've ever tasted proper expensive stuff.Love to see what the difference is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,833 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Kneemos you are very unappreciative of the gift you have been given. I'd love my own thread. A haven for my pondering and shíte talk.

    You have had one for the past 2 weekends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Bio Mech


    I think education is less relevant than taste buds here. If you have a functioning tongue I would suggest there is a difference.

    Had your tongue bitten off by a Turk in a grog house fight? Save your money.


  • Posts: 21,740 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ted_YNWA wrote: »
    You have had one for the past 2 weekends.

    :pac:


    But a permanent non-specific one!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    :pac:


    But a permanent non-specific one!

    Open one??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Kneemos you are very unappreciative of the gift you have been given. I'd love my own thread. A haven for my pondering and shíte talk.


    The sort that inhabit that thread think Dutch Gold is high brow.


    No offence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,734 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    kneemos wrote: »
    Is there a noticeable difference for an uneducated heathen between a cheapo bottle of plonk for say a tenner and a decent drop of grape juice for around thirty or forty quid.

    Cheapo bottle of plonk for a tenner? :eek: I'd expect to get at least ten bottles of plonk for that! Mind you, I have a geographical advantage. :pac:

    But the answer to the question is "no".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    There's a huge difference. It always amazes me when I come back to Ireland to see people picking up a bottle of Château Topaz for €8.99 along with their diesel. Peering at the back of the bottle to see the strength of it.

    There are a few exceptions, but you'll struggle to get a good bottle of wine for under €20, especially in Ireland where tax and excise rates are so high.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    Peering at the back of the bottle to see the strength of it.

    Dont drink wine meself, I'm more of a beer kinda bloke, but that's normal isn't it?

    I mean, who in this world wants to pick up a few good bottles of pale ale / pilsner or lager, spend twenty or thirty bucks on em, only to get the bastards home and realise they're alco-free:confused:
    Personally I don't buy beer that has an abv% of less than 5%.

    I imagine the same goes for wine drinkers, might even be a case of a bloke wanting to know what kinda stuff he's gonna be swilling around his guts if he has work in the AM?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Expensive wine isn't always good wine.

    Have picked up some fantastic wines for between 10 and 12 in some of the smaller little wine shops. O'briens also have some excellent specials and it's fairly easy to get a decent wine for around a tenner. Most of the Aldi specially selected wines are very good as well.

    Tesco Gavi or Fiano (often on offer at 9 euro) great for the price.
    So yes you can get good enough wine relatively cheaply , if you know what you are looking out for.

    I stay away from the plonk that's a tenner in some of the convenience stores they are rotten.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Kneemos you are a Board legend.

    So I have been told WRT your constant questions.

    Get a fekkin life love. A quick goggggglllle will sort out the tannin question re wine. But you already know this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,833 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Kneemos is like Alan Davis on QI, asking the questions the rest of us are too embarassed to ask.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭Deep Six


    I can drink an 8e bottle of wine and be grand but the one time I get notions and buy a 13e bottle (**** you brancott estate), I'm in a heap the next day.

    Give me beer or spirits any day over those bottles of red and white piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,187 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Buy some decent 2015 bordeaux for 40 a bottle in france and in 10 years it'll be for 200


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    Next time you are on a holiday abroad op, you should visit a winery and go on the tour, make sure you try a few of their different wines on the tour. Then come home and try some Blossom Hill.

    I like wine a lot, but when I started drinking it I didn't really know one from the other, nor did I care. It is only when you start tasting the high end stuff you will immediately notice a difference.. then you will start paying attention to the different varieties.

    btw... The mid range bottle of Italian Montepulciano wine is about €8 - €10 in Tuscany.. the exact same bottle of wine back in Dublin airport was €34.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Deep Six wrote: »
    I can drink an 8e bottle of wine and be grand but the one time I get notions and buy a 13e bottle (**** you brancott estate), I'm in a heap the next day.

    Give me beer or spirits any day over those bottles of red and white piss.

    Brancott Estate is usually only around a tenner in Tesco. I always street clear of it. Nederburg (South African) I think is another one I avoid like the plague. Went to a friends for dinner and it was the wine. Was in bits the next day. Paul Masson is like a big carafe of plonk as well.

    I'm not mad about the lidl own wine range I think it's called Cima Rossa.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Depends on the individual's palate too. I have two mates who really know their vino. Like collect the stuff and can blind test tell the differences. I've been brought along to blind tastings with far more educated palates in the room and my faves are almost inevitably the very cheapest and the very dearest on the table. Like an 8 quid bottle of plonk and a 400 quid bottle type range. The mid range stuff is OK for me, but not a standout.

    From what I recall this is something about the stronger tastes and tannins in both? So long as my tastebuds were overwhelmed I was happy out. The middle range stuff tends to be more mellow or something.

    I can't really recall TBH, but they seemed to have a grasp on the reasons and were able to tell whether I would like a wine or not ahead of time. They were also slightly jealous that I could rave about a Tesco special and an aged wine, grape trampled by unicorns. :D Though where I did note a difference was in aftertaste. The really pricey stuff went down easier and left little bitterness in the mouth. Oh and the fancy stuff was much more hangover free.

    This was red wine of course. I refuse to accept the existence of white(Unless it has naturally occurring bubbles). At the Last Supper, it was Judas who brought the Chardonnay.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    kneemos wrote: »
    Is there a noticeable difference for an uneducated heathen between a cheapo bottle of plonk for say a tenner and a decent drop of grape juice for around thirty or forty quid.

    The hangover will tell you the difference..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,734 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    If this is turning into a serious discussion :pac: then there's so much you can do to wreck a "good" wine, there's a limit to how much it's worth. Not shaking the bottles (when bringing them home from the shop), not subjecting them to extremes of temperature (so no buying the 40€ stuff in Burgundy, then leaving it sit in the car while you go to McDonalds on the way back to Cherbourg), storing it at the right temperature, serving it at the right temperature, keeping it long enough, opening it far enough in advance, drinking it with the "right" food ...

    I won't waste good wine (i.e. what I'd buy for more than 5€ a bottle on my sisters because they choose based on colour (just the colour :rolleyes: ) then drink it by the half-bottle. My brother has a better appreciation of why I'll serve one glass of three different wines with three different courses ... but I'd still struggle to justify paying more than a tenner when I can get gold-medal wines for less than that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    No difference, it is all grapes stamped around by foot anyway.


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