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Timmaay · 17-05-2016 10:17AM

whelan2 wrote: »

18th is normally the payment date, price per litre is up on glanbia connect but no statement

They have the trading account statement for April up alright tho! Anyways 23.65c net price here, ouch.

whelan2 · 17-05-2016 10:20AM

Timmaay wrote: »

They have the trading account statement for April up alright tho! Anyways 23.65c net price here, ouch.

24.2 here!

keep going · 17-05-2016 10:20AM

Well now theres something that should be easily achieved and might be a nice little poke to the boys up the li ne .if you want to get rid of the ndc stop paying the money and get your coop to stop paying, its a good time to do it as fellas might actually get off their ass and do it with moneybeing tight.now so get motivated and get organised.the ndc is a throw back to a bygone era and serves no real pourpose now adays.

whelan2 · 17-05-2016 10:22AM

Is that levy compulsory

Farmer Ed · 17-05-2016 10:56AM

keep going wrote: »

Well now theres something that should be easily achieved and might be a nice little poke to the boys up the li ne .if you want to get rid of the ndc stop paying the money and get your coop to stop paying, its a good time to do it as fellas might actually get off their ass and do it with moneybeing tight.now so get motivated and get organised.the ndc is a throw back to a bygone era and serves no real pourpose now adays.

That would just be a start
Anyone have any idea how the milk quality co op or the dairy executives organisation helps the price of milk? I would have thought the dairy executives are well looked after by Icos. All icos ever seem to do is bitch about West cork paying to much for milk.
The gas part is when you look at a lot of the boards of quangos. You find the same people popping up again and again.

keep going · 17-05-2016 11:32AM

Farmer Ed wrote: »

That would just be a start
Anyone have any idea how the milk quality co op or the dairy executives organisation helps the price of milk? I would have thought the dairy executives are well looked after by Icos. All icos ever seem to do is bitch about West cork paying to much for milk.
The gas part is when you look at a lot of the boards of quangos. You find the same people popping up again and again.

If you achieve that then start talking about the others

Bass Reeves · 17-05-2016 11:51AM

Farmer Ed wrote: »

You could just as easily put on a board bia label or an Ornua logo . Why are we all having to be board bia approved if it's the NDC or Ornua are the people selling our product? Surely there seems to be duplication and this is just one example Our farming industry must surely be the world leader in the quango creation .

The label is immaterial if you have two or more processors undercutting each other to supply that product. It si not farming organistations that are world leaders at quango creation. It is Ireland Inc. Every time we have an issue we set up a supervisory board or a regulatory body. Each with a board, a CEO and a support organisation. Here is a sample of a few.

http://quangos-ireland.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Irish_Quangos

These are only directly controlled Quango's. You also have indirect quango's such as Rehab and county and town councils etc.

In the UK they are trying to reduce the number however in Ireland we are powering ahead with the number.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quango

kowtow · 17-05-2016 11:56AM

Many, many years ago I was instrumental in "slimming down" one of those agricultural quangos in the UK...

What I recall from it is truly frightening. Simple questions like, "why exactly do we employ a librarian, and do we really need an empty building in Knightsbridge (Mayfair not being a traditional farming area)?", were met with looks of total amazement, followed by militant defense.

Once 80% or so of the staff had gone and the costs had gone down by 90% even the remaining ones were beginning to plan to abolish themselves.

Edit: I should add that performance was significantly improved as well. It had never occurred to anybody there that two or three phone calls to Tesco, Sainsbury etc. and a bit of Jamie Oliver could do much more for domestic consumption than a £4 or £5 million marketing budget and endless "me too" civil service style meetings.

boggerman1 · 17-05-2016 01:24PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Is that levy compulsory

I enquired about them levies in the past few weeks.they have to be paid since its the government that make them compulsory.here for 403,500 litres sent in 2015 the levies came to around €1,800

kevthegaff · 17-05-2016 01:38PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

I enquired about them levies in the past few weeks.they have to be paid since its the government that make them compulsory.here for 403,500 litres sent in 2015 the levies came to around €1,800

Feck sake.... any word on arrabawn?

Farmer Ed · 17-05-2016 01:49PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

I enquired about them levies in the past few weeks.they have to be paid since its the government that make them compulsory.here for 403,500 litres sent in 2015 the levies came to around €1,800

If the new minister really wants to help us he could start by having a look at that. There's loads more we don't even know about. Eg anyone know what the milk quality co op does or how it is funded? The list seems to be endless. Even if it's not itemised on you milk statement you can be sure it is coming out of agricultures budget somehow.

slippy wicket · 17-05-2016 01:52PM

27.34 cpl here, due to fixed price schemes and slightly better than usual solids.
Yield was down due to cows being still in so late so balanced out a bit.

boggerman1 · 17-05-2016 01:57PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

Feck sake.... any word on arrabawn?

I'm centenary co-op so haven't a clue about any of the rest.i guess they must be all the same

mahoney_j · 17-05-2016 01:57PM

Arrabawn price down 1 cent to 23.7 vat inc ,aghhhh bollox

whelan2 · 17-05-2016 02:02PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

I enquired about them levies in the past few weeks.they have to be paid since its the government that make them compulsory.here for 403,500 litres sent in 2015 the levies came to around €1,800

latest glanbia statement on line now, levies of 220 euro for April on my account

Bass Reeves · 17-05-2016 02:04PM

whelan2 wrote: »

latest glanbia statement on line now, levies of 220 euro for April on my account

Stop any levies you can. Ah think you can stop the EIF levy;) by requesting your processor to do so.

whelan2 · 17-05-2016 02:09PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Stop any levies you can. Ah think you can stop the EIF levy;) by requesting your processor to do so.

The levies are
Bord Bainne 54.26
Dairy research levy 13.95
Dairy council levy 43.15
Govt services 61.58
Disease eradication 36.95
National milk agency 10.34 then
fmp levy 29.68
Apart from fmp what can I cancel?

RightTurnClyde · 17-05-2016 02:19PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

I'm centenary co-op so haven't a clue about any of the rest.i guess they must be all the same

Are those numpties going to get Urea testing up and running this year? Missed the last AGM

kevthegaff · 17-05-2016 03:03PM

whelan2 wrote: »

The levies are
Bord Bainne 54.26
Dairy research levy 13.95
Dairy council levy 43.15
Govt services 61.58
Disease eradication 36.95
National milk agency 10.34 then
fmp levy 29.68
Apart from fmp what can I cancel?

That's nearly 250ðŸ˜ ye think they'd cut levies while price is desperate

whelan2 · 17-05-2016 03:04PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

That's nearly 250ðŸ˜ ye think they'd cut levies while price is desperate

ye hadnt included the fmp levy as its in another section. What is government services?

boggerman1 · 17-05-2016 03:20PM

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Are those numpties going to get Urea testing up and running this year? Missed the last AGM

Excuse my ignorance,have seen it referred to here by others but what is milk urea test and its significance.

boggerman1 · 17-05-2016 03:36PM

Gdt up 2.6%.volume sold 18,000 tons approx.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 17-05-2016 03:59PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance,have seen it referred to here by others but what is milk urea test and its significance.

It shows the Urea in milk and helps farmers adjust their feeding to get the Urea below 25, I think.

If too much protein or too little energy, the urea levels rise so less protein and more energy is needed in the diet.

I think I have that right.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 17-05-2016 04:01PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

Gdt up 2.6%.volume sold 18,000 tons approx.

https://www.globaldairytrade.info/en/product-results/

Water John · 17-05-2016 04:12PM

Urea 25 to 35 seems ok. Too high makes milk difficult to process.
Buford you are right on the high protein, low energy issue pushes it up.

mahoney_j · 17-05-2016 04:17PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

Gdt up 2.6%.volume sold 18,000 tons approx.

Probably be down 3 % next auction

atlantic mist · 17-05-2016 04:38PM

22.8c here

super levy payment started this month

Milked out · 17-05-2016 05:02PM

Dairy gold down to 22c

wats the craic · 17-05-2016 05:22PM

whelan2 wrote: »

The levies are
Bord Bainne 54.26
Dairy research levy 13.95
Dairy council levy 43.15
Govt services 61.58
Disease eradication 36.95
National milk agency 10.34 then
fmp levy 29.68
Apart from fmp what can I cancel?

levels i pay wit strathroy is as follows dif levy at 0.001cpl bdl levy at 0.0006cpl

Water John · 17-05-2016 05:24PM

The AGM's are out of the way. Price should bottom out for the year.

Just an example of what every cent means.
The 1.7 cent diff between Arrabawn and Dairygold would yield an extra €20M to Dairygold farmers over a year.

Craic, that is very interesting on the levies. Are you saying the total is 0.0016 cent per litre?

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