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Too much trash talk against Christianity

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  • #212
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,071 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    MOD NOTE

    Thread title edited as discussion has moved beyond just 'thrash talk' on boards.ie
    psheaser wrote: »
    Would you maniacs rather live under sharia law?
    Less of the insulting/antagonistic language please.

    Thanks for your attention.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #213
    solodeogloria
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭solodeogloria


    love humanity wrote: »
    We don't strike deals. We follow the Gospel.

    Good afternoon!

    Last post.

    Jesus never said that we should rule on His behalf. In fact the New Testament only refers to Christians living under non-Christian rulers.

    Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world in John 18:36.

    Much thanks in the Lord Jesus Christ,
    solodeogloria


  • #214
    Kiwi in IE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    love humanity wrote: »
    I am not a Catholic.

    I don't recall saying that you were.


  • #215
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    Kiwi in IE wrote: »
    Ah so it's OK for you to tell us what to do because.... your religion! But not OK for us to question or challenge religious societal privilege?

    What societal privileges do I have as an Orthodox Christian living in Ireland exactly? Getting to wear a Cross?


  • #216
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    love humanity wrote: »
    What societal privileges do I have as an Orthodox Christian living in Ireland exactly? Getting to wear a Cross?
    And only when it's your turn! :mad:


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  • #217
    Kiwi in IE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    solodeogloria wrote: »
    Good afternoon!

    Last post.

    Jesus never said that we should rule on His behalf. In fact the New Testament only refers to Christians living under non-Christian rulers.

    Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world in John 18:36.

    Much thanks in the Lord Jesus Christ,
    solodeogloria

    I'm glad that's your last post in this discussion, because you spoil my religious stereotype all together with all your reasonableness and tolerance. I much prefer love humanity's approach! ;)


  • #218
    looksee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,925 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    love humanity wrote: »
    Muslim women are not allowed to remove the hijab in public. This would mean they cannot enter the work place according to your logic. By removing it, to them, it is like rejecting their faith. So in your world, religious people have to hide and reject their faith in public?

    Wearing a veil is not a religious requirement, it is a cultural one. It is perfectly possible to be a Muslim and not wear a hijab. In much the way that Muslim men do not require them, regardless of how much lust this stirs up in women.

    Love Humanity, maybe you should consider changing your name to Love Humanity Provided You Agree With Me. And would you not consider that describing Christians as 'persecuted' because they cannot publicly wear a religious symbol is rather making a mock of Christians who are and were actually persecuted?


  • #219
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    looksee wrote: »
    Wearing a veil is not a religious requirement, it is a cultural one. It is perfectly possible to be a Muslim and not wear a hijab. In much the way that Muslim men do not require them, regardless of how much lust this stirs up in women.

    Love Humanity, maybe you should consider changing your name to Love Humanity Provided You Agree With Me. And would you not consider that describing Christians as 'persecuted' because they cannot publicly wear a religious symbol is rather making a mock of Christians who are and were actually persecuted?

    It is a requirement by Muslim women to wear a hijab as part of their faith.

    To deny me from wearing a Cross is the beginnings of more extensive persecution. Of all the religions in the west, Christianity today is a free for all to attack and mock. Christophobia and bigotry towards Christians is accepted but Anti semitism and Islamophobia (and rightly so) is frowned upon. Double standards.


  • #220
    Speedwell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    love humanity wrote: »
    Of all the religions in the west, Christianity today is a free for all to attack and mock. Christophobia and bigotry towards Christians is accepted but Anti semitism and Islamophobia (and rightly so) is frowned upon. Double standards.

    Is that what they told you in your church? Do you even read the news?


  • #221
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,893 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    love humanity wrote: »
    It is a requirement by Muslim women to wear a hijab as part of their faith.

    No it isn't
    To deny me from wearing a Cross is the beginnings of more extensive persecution. Of all the religions in the west, Christianity today is a free for all to attack and mock. Christophobia and bigotry towards Christians is accepted but Anti semitism and Islamophobia (and rightly so) is frowned upon. Double standards.

    No one is denying you the right to wear it, Why do you feel the need to have it out 8n the openn8n people's faces? Does it not work if it's not in the open air?


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  • #222
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    No it isn't



    No one is denying you the right to wear it, Why do you feel the need to have it out 8n the openn8n people's faces? Does it not work if it's not in the open air?

    Yes it is a requirement of islam to cover your hair if you are a woman.

    I will wear the Cross openly with pride, if it offends you, I don't care. You will learn to accept it in time.


  • #223
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,434 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    No it isn't



    No one is denying you the right to wear it, Why do you feel the need to have it out 8n the openn8n people's faces? Does it not work if it's not in the open air?

    Also, does it work if it's just a plain cross? Does it have to have the little fella stuck on?


  • #224
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    endacl wrote: »
    Also, does it work if it's just a plain cross? Does it have to have the little fella stuck on?

    Here are examples of common Orthodox crosses we wear

    svspress.com/categories/Browse-our-Giftshop/Jewelry-and-Crosses/


  • #225
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,893 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    love humanity wrote: »
    Yes it is a requirement of islam to cover your hair if you are a woman.

    Sigh

    Have you ever been to Turkey? Tunisia?

    Predominantly Muslim countries where MUSLIM women do not wear hair covering.
    I will wear the Cross openly with pride, if it offends you, I don't care. You will learn to accept it in time.

    Wear away as I said It doesn't bother me in the slightest but don't get too upset if one day you are told to cover it up while on private property.

    Religion will die out one day, you will.learn to accept that in time ;)


  • #226
    Timberrrrrrrr
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    endacl wrote: »
    Also, does it work if it's just a plain cross? Does it have to have the little fella stuck on?

    The one with the fella on gives you reincarnation powers, the plain one just protects you from evil or something.


  • #227
    luftmensch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭luftmensch


    love humanity wrote: »
    Here are examples of common Orthodox crosses we wear

    svspress.com/categories/Browse-our-Giftshop/Jewelry-and-Crosses/

    What's the difference between an orthodox cross and a normal cross?


  • #228
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Sigh

    Have you ever been to Turkey? Tunisia?

    Predominantly Muslim countries where MUSLIM women do not wear hair covering.



    Wear away as I said It doesn't bother me in the slightest but don't get too upset if one day you are told to cover it up while on private property.

    Religion will die out one day, you will.learn to accept that in time ;)

    On the contrary If someone asks me to cover my Cross I will teach them a good lesson they will never forget :)

    Your dreams are unrealistic haha


  • #229
    luftmensch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭luftmensch


    love humanity wrote: »
    On the contrary If someone asks me to cover my Cross I will teach them a good lesson they will never forget :)

    Your dreams are unrealistic haha

    You gonna kick their ass?


  • #230
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    luftmensch wrote: »
    What's the difference between an orthodox cross and a normal cross?

    Nothing in general, but the style, some Byzantine in origin.


  • #231
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    luftmensch wrote: »
    You gonna kick their ass?

    Of course not


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  • #232
    MrPudding
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    love humanity wrote: »
    Why about Christians in Europe who lost their jobs for wearing a crucifix at work and refusing to remove it? Would you agree with removing religious freedom such as this?
    Can you give some examples of this please?

    MrP


  • #233
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,893 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    love humanity wrote: »
    On the contrary If someone asks me to cover my Cross I will teach them a good lesson they will never forget :)

    Your dreams are unrealistic haha

    Please elaborate


  • #234
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    I would never hide my cross either.


  • #235
    frag420
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    @ Love Humanity & 100cent - Why dont you show real solidarity with Jesus's suffering and carry a 9ft, 110lb wooden cross then? Why are you pussy-footing about with a little scamp of a cross on a chain?

    At least with a big wooden cross people will be in no doubt about your beliefs and would probably have more respect as you too are sharing the suffering of Jesus!?

    Also would you tolerate a colleague openly wearing an inverted cross in your workplace? \Someone sitting beside you wearing it around their neck on a chain, one big shiny inverted cross and telling you all about how cool and awesome the Church of Satan is, how awesome their ceremonies are, the sacrifices, the satanic cake sales they have at the weekends, the awesome clothes they get to wear with all the pentagrams showing their beliefs?

    Would that be cool in your workplace?


  • #236
    100cent
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭100cent


    frag420 wrote: »
    @ Love Humanity & 100cent - Why dont you show real solidarity with Jesus's suffering and carry a 9ft, 110lb wooden cross then? Why are you pussy-footing about with a little scamp of a cross on a chain?

    At least with a big wooden cross people will be in no doubt about your beliefs and would probably have more respect as you too are sharing the suffering of Jesus!?

    Also would you tolerate a colleague openly wearing an inverted cross in your workplace? \Someone sitting beside you wearing it around their neck on a chain, one big shiny inverted cross and telling you all about how cool and awesome the Church of Satan is, how awesome their ceremonies are, the sacrifices, the satanic cake sales they have at the weekends, the awesome clothes they get to wear with all the pentagrams showing their beliefs?

    Would that be cool in your workplace?

    Alas satanism is alive and well in today's society.

    But I will not bow to Secular elitism by concealing my cross.


  • #237
    love humanity
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭love humanity


    frag420 wrote: »
    @ Love Humanity & 100cent - Why dont you show real solidarity with Jesus's suffering and carry a 9ft, 110lb wooden cross then? Why are you pussy-footing about with a little scamp of a cross on a chain?

    At least with a big wooden cross people will be in no doubt about your beliefs and would probably have more respect as you too are sharing the suffering of Jesus!?

    Also would you tolerate a colleague openly wearing an inverted cross in your workplace? \Someone sitting beside you wearing it around their neck on a chain, one big shiny inverted cross and telling you all about how cool and awesome the Church of Satan is, how awesome their ceremonies are, the sacrifices, the satanic cake sales they have at the weekends, the awesome clothes they get to wear with all the pentagrams showing their beliefs?

    Would that be cool in your workplace?

    The person can wear an inverted Cross all they want but why are they talking about their ceremonies at work? I don't talk about religion at work. If they did however, I would not care.


  • #238
    Speedwell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    love humanity wrote: »
    The person can wear an inverted Cross all they want but why are they talking about their ceremonies at work?

    Good question. People are curious and they ask questions. Sometimes their curiosity is not innocent and their intentions are not pure. After all, the goal of Christianity is to stamp out competition, not just to "have rights". That's one big reason why wearing religious symbols in the workplace is divisive and dangerous.


  • #239
    frag420
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    100cent wrote: »
    Alas satanism is alive and well in today's society.

    But I will not bow to Secular elitism by concealing my cross.

    Well it was Christianity that invented Satanism after all, good work there!!
    love humanity wrote: »
    The person can wear an inverted Cross all they want but why are they talking about their ceremonies at work? I don't talk about religion at work. If they did however, I would not care.

    Good answer. Now how come you wont carry about a large wooden cross?


  • #240
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,579 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    love humanity wrote: »
    No religion should be bashed , nor should atheism or agnosticism.

    Now, now, thats a very slippery slope you're creating there,
    Religion is merely an idea, like all ideas it should never be free from being criticized.

    Your type of mindset is the type that resulted in stuff like "Life Of Brian" being banned in Ireland, nobody should fear mocking an idea and no blocks should be put in place to stop an idea being bashed.

    If you fear people being critical and mocking of your idea then its you that has a problem, not the other people.

    The idea (religion) has turned into a multi billion euro organisation which abuses countless thousands worldwide, to not be critical of that organisation and those that even attempt for one second to defend its crimes is a very very bad step indeed.


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  • #241
    frag420
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    love humanity wrote: »
    The person can wear an inverted Cross all they want but why are they talking about their ceremonies at work? I don't talk about religion at work. If they did however, I would not care.

    There was a famous t-shirt years back from an extreme english metal band. While I enjoy some similar music I have not time for this band in particular but their t-shirt was rather blasphemous..........just google "COF offensive T-shirt"

    Its the one with a nun on the front...oh and it may offend you so this is just a little warning about it!!

    Once you have had a look at it, tell me would you mind if your colleague wore that to work with you? Its obvious anti-christian as the band in question have a rather Satanic outlook if only for shock tactics!!


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