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20 somethings...does their attitude stink?

  • 16-05-2016 10:52AM
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    It just seems to be something I've recently noticed more and more. Have had to deal with a few and their attitude sucks. They have this arrogance, sense of entitlement that and a shallowness I just don't see in the 30 plus age group. They also seem unable to address anything at any level beyond "having the craic". Of course that's not universal, maybe it's not even common, but I'm finding it more and more. Course, maybe I'm becoming a grumpy old man...

    Anyone else think this about that age group and wonder what has happened to that generation?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    It just seems to be something I've recently noticed more and more. Have had to deal with a few and their attitude sucks. They have this arrogance, sense of entitlement that and a shallowness I just don't see in the 30 plus age group. They also seem unable to address anything at any level beyond "having the craic". Of course that's not universal, maybe it's not even common, but I'm finding it more and more. Course, maybe I'm becoming a grumpy old man...

    Anyone else think this about that age group and wonder what has happened to that generation?

    Weren't we the same when we were in our 20's?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    They went to fcuk after I turned 30


    The ones in their thirties will do the same in a couple of years time


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Every one of us is a cnut, without exception.

    Especially me.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭galljga1


    You are just getting old and possibly forgetting how entitled your generation was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    It's a combination of the fact that twentysomethings generally have less stress and pressure on them than people in their thirties (families, mortgages etc.) and the fact that we have always tended to think of younger generations as being more useless than we were at that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    I think there's a big difference with people who are 20-23, to those who are 27-30.

    I certainly have more grey hair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    I'm nearly 50, and I'm constantly enchanted with how in-touch, passionate, and fair-minded "kids" are these days. It's the crop now in their early 30s I want to shake and ask what the heck is wrong with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    It just seems to be something I've recently noticed more and more. Have had to deal with a few and their attitude sucks. They have this arrogance, sense of entitlement that and a shallowness I just don't see in the 30 plus age group. They also seem unable to address anything at any level beyond "having the craic". Of course that's not universal, maybe it's not even common, but I'm finding it more and more. Course, maybe I'm becoming a grumpy old man...

    Anyone else think this about that age group and wonder what has happened to that generation?

    Out of curiosity, under what circumstances?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    I can only speak for myself as a 20-something.

    I'm not arrogant, I have self-confidence issues.

    I do have a sense of entitlement if I'm honest, but then again there are things I'm entitled to, as is every other person.

    I tend to take things too seriously so yes I do think beyond "Having the craic"

    In general my attitude stinks but that's because of a viciously pessimistic outlook on life.


  • Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Out of curiosity, under what circumstances?

    Across a range of circumstances, work, social (friends of friends stuff), family etc. etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭Cina


    I think every age group has it's fair share of arseholes and you were just unlucky enough to meet a high percentage of ones in their Twenties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Nah the current batch are all twatweasels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    Across a range of circumstances, work, social (friends of friends stuff), family etc. etc.

    If you sometimes see a problematical attitude in the occasional 20-something in a few circumstances, then you are likely to be seeing a real problem, confined to those individuals and circumstances. If you see it in every, or nearly every individual and case, I'm afraid the problem is you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,059 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Had boards been about 40 years ago you'd have seen the same question being asked about the youngsters with their jitterbugging and their onions in their belts.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    People have been saying "bloody hell, kids these days" since the Babylonians first applied reeds to soft clay.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    It's just a sign that you are feeling old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Out of curiosity, under what circumstances?

    Trying to convince them to sleep with him in nightclubs. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    Wibbs wrote: »
    People have been saying "bloody hell, kids these days" since the Babylonians first applied reeds to soft clay.

    "The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise." - attributed to Socrates

    Pretty sure the ancient Egyptians had inscriptions saying the same thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    You're always going to have a certain percentage of youngsters like that with their heads up their arses - I certainly did. It's not easy these days, trying to figure out who you're supposed to be and what you're supposed to do. It's a hell of a lot easier and more fun being a 44-year-old engineer with the mind of an eight-year-old. :pac:
    Bambi wrote: »
    ...twatweasels

    I think it goes without saying that this would be a superb name for an electrofunkified thrash-Morris Dancing outfit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    "The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise." - attributed to Socrates

    Pretty sure the ancient Egyptians had inscriptions saying the same thing.

    That quotation is spurious, unfortunately :) I can replace it with a better, well-attested one:

    "Our sires' age was worse than our grandsires'. We, their sons, are more worthless than they; so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more corrupt." Horace, Book III of Odes, ca. 20 B.C.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    Speedwell wrote: »
    That quotation is spurious, unfortunately :) I can replace it with a better, well-attested one:

    "Our sires' age was worse than our grandsires'. We, their sons, are more worthless than they; so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more corrupt." Horace, Book III of Odes, ca. 20 B.C.

    Never looked into it,seems to be confusion on its origin.

    It's a reoccurring theme down through the years though

    http://proto-knowledge.blogspot.ie/2010/11/what-is-wrong-with-young-people-today.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Like, whatever lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    osarusan wrote: »
    Had boards been about 40 years ago you'd have seen the same question being asked about the youngsters with their jitterbugging and their onions in their belts.

    As was the style at the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Their attitude always stank, except me when I was their age.

    Wait till the 19 year olds become 20.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    It's a combination of the fact that twentysomethings generally have less stress and pressure on them than people in their thirties

    Oh yeah all of that "I'll never have a career" and "I won't pass my exams" and "How can I afford rent" stuff is a fucking breeze isn't it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Story Bud?


    Yes, I certainly see what the issue with the current bunch of 20 somethings is.

    I'm afraid what it all boils down to Conor, is that you are officially old!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 454 ✭✭Peter Anthony


    It just seems to be something I've recently noticed more and more. Have had to deal with a few and their attitude sucks. They have this arrogance, sense of entitlement that and a shallowness I just don't see in the 30 plus age group. They also seem unable to address anything at any level beyond "having the craic". Of course that's not universal, maybe it's not even common, but I'm finding it more and more. Course, maybe I'm becoming a grumpy old man...

    Anyone else think this about that age group and wonder what has happened to that generation?

    I would agree with you that 20 something generation are incredibly shallow, and alot are sheep like following the media and stuff like instagram is so important to some. Very superficial and false

    But I really cant agree about the self entitlement. There is a big mindset of self entitlement in this country yes but of all ages, plenty 30 plus. Lets not forget the Celtic Tiger eh? Many people in their 20s certainly did not get their taste of that because they were too young, they just had to deal with the bankruptcy of the state and **** that followed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Zillah wrote: »
    Oh yeah all of that "I'll never have a career" and "I won't pass my exams" and "How can I afford rent" stuff is a fucking breeze isn't it?

    It's not at all.

    It's a good thing then that I didn't say that twentysomethings have no stress or pressure on them, isn't it?

    That would've been embarrassing!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    The generation described by the OP often do have a raw deal to be honest. Across the Western world, in general it's fair to say that this generation will have a lower living standard than the one before it. Young people are facing a difficult life on a variety of fronts. In a society of spiralling inequality, employment has become increasingly precarious with wages being driven down, tenure being short term and insecure and a dwindling Union membership. Home ownership is largely unattainable for swathes of workers nowadays and people are finding themselves saddled with debt. With the erosion of the welfare state many young people find it difficult to avail of things like education and healthcare (some countries are better or worse in this regard) and are witnessing a spree of privatisation and closure of other public services. Things like pensions and retirement will probably be gone by the time I reach my 60s. I think young people have plenty to be annoyed about to be honest.

    As a joke goes over here; "bloody kids always complaining, when I was their age all I had was a permanent contract and the ability to buy property in central London!"


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