Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 Updated Mod Note Post 1

spaceCreated · 12-05-2016 04:10AM

hurler on de ditch wrote: »

well i knew that would be the response from somebody ,he was having a bad day ,take him off end of,ive seen plenty of KK stars subbed after 20 mins ,if your not playing well out you go ,the very fact that you said "He's been excellent last year and this"says it all ,,he was great last year so dont take him off even though he is playing bad,sure he was great last year,imagine he was great last year ,sure that will do ,

Well then maybe if it popped in to your own head you might have considered and realised how stupid your comment sounds. He as actually mopping up balls the whole way through the first half 3, of his mistakes would have been scores without him; added to that he turned around his game 5 minutes later. If eh was taken off we would of been much worse for it and his confidence likely affected. What happened instead was he limited the Clare fullf orward line to pretty much nothing and as the previous week had Davy Fitz trying anything to bring get around him. I don;t know what this personal crusade against De BUrca is about but its definitely no to do with how the team is performing.

robopaddy2 · 12-05-2016 04:28AM

This TDB bashing is absolute nonsense. Anyone who knows anything about the game will tell you he contributed more good than bad on Sunday. Why not take off Philip Mahony after he was blatantly caught for pace against Tony Kelly time and time again? Why not take off Shane Fives after he too gave away possession a couple of times? TDB's errors were more obvious that's all, so he's the easiest fellah to slate for those who have to find something to give out about but don't really know what's going on in front of them.

hurler on de ditch · 12-05-2016 07:52AM

spaceCreated wrote: »

Well then maybe if it popped in to your own head you might have considered and realised how stupid your comment sounds. He as actually mopping up balls the whole way through the first half 3, of his mistakes would have been scores without him; added to that he turned around his game 5 minutes later. If eh was taken off we would of been much worse for it and his confidence likely affected. What happened instead was he limited the Clare fullf orward line to pretty much nothing and as the previous week had Davy Fitz trying anything to bring get around him. I don;t know what this personal crusade against De BUrca is about but its definitely no to do with how the team is performing.

nothing personnel at all ,ah thats so cute," If eh was taken off we would of been much worse for it and his confidence likely affected.never heard so much bull,so you cant sub a lad now or his confidence would be affected ,so no mental strenght at all ,doubt that,i made a point and all im doing is replying ,i pointed out what should have been done ,simple as that,sometimes its a little bit like cruel to be kind,if their is no consequence to playing badly ,lads will never learn ,

DiscoStew · 12-05-2016 08:18AM

Looking to this weekends fixtures what are people expecting? Has anyone got a full list of senior fixtures for the weekend we could try and predict results.

ryan1990 · 12-05-2016 09:28AM

Senior;

Group 1;
Portlaw vs Dungarvan
Ballygunner vs De La Salle
Passage vs Ballyduff Upper

Group 2;

Abbeyside vs Roanmore
Mt. Sion vs Fourmilewater
Tallow vs Cappoquin

JesusRef · 12-05-2016 09:50AM

ryan1990 wrote: »

Senior;

Group 1;
Portlaw vs Dungarvan
Ballygunner vs De La Salle
Passage vs Ballyduff Upper

Group 2;

Abbeyside vs Roanmore
Mt. Sion vs Fourmilewater
Tallow vs Cappoquin

Dungarvan,
Ballygunnar,
Passage,
Abbeys ide,
Mt Sion,
Tallow...

Not too many shocks after so many last year

ryan1990 · 12-05-2016 10:07AM

Think Ballyduff, Roanmore & Fourmilewater all have a chance.

The other 3 games easier to call.

Cake Man · 12-05-2016 11:03AM

I'm just hoping for all our inter county players to come through uninjured! How many more rounds of games before June 5th?

PTH2009 · 12-05-2016 11:28AM

Cake Man wrote: »

I'm just hoping for all our inter county players to come through uninjured! How many more rounds of games before June 5th?

Only this weekends round. Waterford players have there fota island training camp next weekend and then the footballers are out on the 29th May

We have had bad luck with major inter county injurys the last 2 county's championship hopefully none dis year

Road-Hog · 12-05-2016 11:31AM

What are the chances of Another Padraic Mahoney incident like last year occurring this weekend IE one of the county stars sustains a bad injury

PTH2009 · 12-05-2016 11:37AM

Road-Hog wrote: »

What are the chances of Another Padraic Mahoney incident like last year occurring this weekend IE one of the county stars sustains a bad injury

Losing someone like curran, Maurice, Shane Bennett, dunford etc will be catastrophic

Hopefully nobody inter county or otherwise gets injured

Anyone any info in the Waterford intermediate team for dis year ???

robopaddy2 · 12-05-2016 11:57AM

ryan1990 wrote: »

Senior;

Group 1;
Portlaw vs Dungarvan
Ballygunner vs De La Salle
Passage vs Ballyduff Upper

Group 2;

Abbeyside vs Roanmore
Mt. Sion vs Fourmilewater
Tallow vs Cappoquin

Id imagine Dungarvan match will be canceled following the death of one of their players Trevor Crotty on Tuesday. (Rip)

DiscoStew · 12-05-2016 12:01PM

Road-Hog wrote: »

What are the chances of Another Padraic Mahoney incident like last year occurring this weekend IE one of the county stars sustains a bad injury

It's as likely as any club player getting injured probably.

DiscoStew · 12-05-2016 12:11PM

ryan1990 wrote: »

Senior;

Group 1;
Portlaw vs Dungarvan
Ballygunner vs De La Salle
Passage vs Ballyduff Upper

Group 2;

Abbeyside vs Roanmore
Mt. Sion vs Fourmilewater
Tallow vs Cappoquin

As mentioned the Dungarvan game will probably be postponed due to the tragic death of Trevor Crotty.

Ballygunner vs DLS should tell us a good deal about DLS approach this year. Ballygunner are the team to beat again I feel. Wayne Hutchinson return should offset the rumoured loss of David O'Sullivan, although I imagine he could feature later in the year.

Passage Ballyduff could be a good game. Passage were caught on the hop slightly last year possibly and will relish the chance to atone for that immediately. Both teams struggling with injuries apparently so could see changes from both sides from last year. I wouldn't rule out the draw here.

Abbeyside are apparently going well under the coaching of Brendan Landers and seem to have placed a greater emphasis on hurling this year. Roanmore have improved each year recently so this could be an even enough match up. I'll give a tentative vote to Abbeyside.

The noise out of the Fourmilewater camp hasn't been great. They seem to be struggling for numbers if reports of challenge games are to be believed. Mt Sion lost Bill Walsh I think and Martin O'Neill has left the country. These will be big losses but they should have enough I think to get over the line here.

Tallow I feel should emerge comfortably from this group. Their younger players having last year behind them could be of great benefit and all the older players seem to have committed again. Fancy Tallow to take care of Cappoquin with relative ease.

JesusRef · 12-05-2016 01:52PM

How about the intermediate? Presume Lismore are favorites?

Still hard to believe there is separate East and West championships

PTH2009 · 12-05-2016 02:02PM

JesusRef wrote: »

How about the intermediate? Presume Lismore are favorites?

Still hard to believe there is separate East and West championships

I find it confusing there's senior clubs who have teams in the intermediate/junior championships

Why don't they have these clubs in a separate intermediate/junior comp

Intermediate A and Junior A- clubs from east and west who don't have a senior team

Intermediate B and Junior B- clubs who are also rep in the senior championship. Senior players are eligible to play. A club rep in intermediate A level will also play in this section of they have a junior team.

How many Munster club championships are there in each grade ??

ryan1990 · 12-05-2016 02:30PM

Eastern Intermediate Group A;

Clonea vs Dunhill
Erins Own vs Ballygunner (B)

Eastern Intermediate Group B;

St Saviours vs Butlerstown
De La Salle (B) vs St Mollerans

Western Intermediate Group 1;

Lismore vs Clashmore/Kinsalebeg
Modeligo vs Ballysaggart

Western Intermediate Group 2;

Shamrocks vs Ballinameela
Brickey Rangers vs An Rinn

ryan1990 · 12-05-2016 02:31PM

DiscoStew wrote: »

Looking to this weekends fixtures what are people expecting? Has anyone got a full list of senior fixtures for the weekend we could try and predict results.

JesusRef wrote: »

Dungarvan,
Ballygunnar,
Passage,
Abbeys ide,
Mt Sion,
Tallow...

Not too many shocks after so many last year

PTH2009 wrote: »

I find it confusing there's senior clubs who have teams in the intermediate/junior championships

Why don't they have these clubs in a separate intermediate/junior comp

Intermediate A and Junior A- clubs from east and west who don't have a senior team

Intermediate B and Junior B- clubs who are also rep in the senior championship. Senior players are eligible to play. A club rep in intermediate A level will also play in this section of they have a junior team.

How many Munster club championships are there in each grade ??

Had De La Salle lost to Lismore last year they'd now have two teams in the Intermediate!

mickotallow · 12-05-2016 05:14PM

Cake Man wrote: »

I'm just hoping for all our inter county players to come through uninjured! How many more rounds of games before June 5th?

Maybe we should just cancel the club championship altogether. Inter county lads wouldn't have to worry about getting injured during the inconvenience of playing for the clubs that nurtured and coached them all their lives.
I'm sure everyone who went to Thurles over the last two weeks will come out in droves again this weekend to see their heroes playing ðŸ€”

Alf Tupper · 12-05-2016 09:39PM

Maybe, with the thought of getting away from all the handwringing and fallout from last Sunday and with a view to improving our lot for the Championship....

Firstly, I have to say that I am really proud of this bunch of young lads, they owe us nothing, but did our lack of pace in key areas get us punished last Sunday?

To my thinking it did.

Now, before the naysayers get going, this isn't a witch hunt against anyone, just wondering how we could improve things before June 5th?

That's all.

Cake Man · 12-05-2016 11:47PM

mickotallow wrote: »

Maybe we should just cancel the club championship altogether. Inter county lads wouldn't have to worry about getting injured during the inconvenience of playing for the clubs that nurtured and coached them all their lives.
I'm sure everyone who went to Thurles over the last two weeks will come out in droves again this weekend to see their heroes playing ðŸ€”

Talk about flying off the handle, you reply as if I suggested club games should be postponed/cancelled. Where did I say anything to do with that?

If anything, I'm very much in favour of these games being played and was actually hoping there would be another round the following week as it will keep our county lads match fit and sharp (senior, U21 and minor) and the non-county lads interested for the summer. Just making the point that it would be great if all come through with a clean bill of health given our history of lads getting injured just before championship the last few years.

Road-Hog · 13-05-2016 09:14AM

DiscoStew wrote: »

It's as likely as any club player getting injured probably.

Agreed but the club player is unlikely to affect the ending of a 57 year drought!

DiscoStew · 13-05-2016 12:13PM

Road-Hog wrote: »

Agreed but the club player is unlikely to affect the ending of a 57 year drought!

I can't think of any example other than Mahony of a player being ruled out for the championship as a result of an injury in a club game.
These games are what helped to shape the county set up, we can't just stop them all without there being reprecussions down the line. If anything it benefits the squad players hugely who get much needed game and possibly confidence that they could return to the county set up with.

Road-Hog · 13-05-2016 01:25PM

DiscoStew wrote: »

I can't think of any example other than Mahony of a player being ruled out for the championship as a result of an injury in a club game.
These games are what helped to shape the county set up, we can't just stop them all without there being reprecussions down the line. If anything it benefits the squad players hugely who get much needed game and possibly confidence that they could return to the county set up with.

I'm sure there are other examples but can't think of them. It's all about 'risk' or that the county player is being exposed to......probability is low but severity to the cause is high if he gets injured such as Mahoney last tear

mountgomery burns · 13-05-2016 07:32PM

Road-Hog wrote: »

I'm sure there are other examples but can't think of them. It's all about 'risk' or that the county player is being exposed to......probability is low but severity to the cause is high if he gets injured such as Mahoney last tear

Same for every County. Will be no hurling without clubs, end of discussion.

seananigans · 13-05-2016 09:24PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Losing someone like curran, Maurice, Shane Bennett, dunford etc will be catastrophic

Hopefully nobody inter county or otherwise gets injured

Anyone any info in the Waterford intermediate team for dis year ???

tbf the forwards get all the attention, baks you dont notice until theyre missing, imagine mising tdb or barry coughlan disaster in the making

PTH2009 · 13-05-2016 11:32PM

seananigans wrote: »

tbf the forwards get all the attention, baks you dont notice until theyre missing, imagine mising tdb or barry coughlan disaster in the making

True it will be a relief come Sunday afternoon if there's no reports of injurys from any game

Lismore vs clashmore Tdb will be marking Maurice

Ballygunner vs Dls- Philip Mahony marking Kevin Moran

There prob a few more inter county panel battles too

Cake Man · 14-05-2016 12:00AM

Tom Devine v one of the Bennetts in Modeligo v Ballysaggart too.

That western group 1 with Lismore, Ballysaggart, Modeligo and Clashmore/Kinsalebeg looks tasty.

HatchetMan7 · 14-05-2016 01:55AM

Some quality games in intermediate. On the county panel playing intermediate or junior are: Shane Fives, Darragh Fives, Tadgh de Burca, Shane Bennett, Stephan Bennett, Brick Walsh, Maurice Shanahan, Colin Dunford, Tom Devine, Brian O Halloran, Colm Roche and Shane Roche. That's about 35-40% of the panel. Intermediate is the strongest its ever been in Waterford. As an intercounty panel do we have the most players playing outside of senior club hurling?

PTH2009 · 14-05-2016 01:59AM

Cake Man wrote: »

Tom Devine v one of the Bennetts in Modeligo v Ballysaggart too.

That western group 1 with Lismore, Ballysaggart, Modeligo and Clashmore/Kinsalebeg looks tasty.

friday results

Lismare 1-20- Clashmore 0-19

Senior- Abbeyside 1-16- Roanmore 0-13

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