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Watching all the runners stream by, I noticed a couple of things I thought I'd share:- Get proper running gear. I saw several folks running in cotton t-shirts and shorts - which must be very unpleasant for the runners (as well as the spectators
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0 - Get proper running gear. I saw several folks running in cotton t-shirts and shorts - which must be very unpleasant for the runners (as well as the spectators
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Measure in metresMaximus Alexander wrote: »Miles just seem to go on forever... and ever... and ever. Kilometers tick away quite rapidly and don't overstay their welcome.
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There seems to war raging about kilometers versus miles
During one of the ridiculous long runs last year, I stumbled upon the same little trick that was already mentioned above - to convert km into miles:- Take the number of miles (e.g. 18)
- Add half the amount (+9 = 27)
- And a tenth of the amount (+1.8 = 28.8)
- Voila. Close enough.
As a suggestion if people get in the habit of putting either "m" or "km" after the distances they mention, it will avoid any future confusion. But if there is a general consensus for miles I'm happy to go with that.
I always worked in km's, then running in Limerick a few weeks back a guy I was running beside suddenly commented "Great we're counting down into single digits" i.e., 9 miles left, 8 miles left etc. I got kinda pi$$ed me off working in km's as I was going to have to wait a while for that psychological boost!
That formula looks pretty handy, I'll have to try remembering it.0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »I'll be stubbornly sticking to km :pac:
LOL. Anyway, let's close the book on the miles vs kilometers discussion.
Is anyone considering the Irish Runner 5M - the first race of the Dublin Marathon Race Series?
It's on June 12th in the Phoenix Park - and the entries close on May 27th.- As the training plans haven't started yet, a good chance to try and sharpen up a PB over a shorter distance
- Racing practice - it's a big race
- I believe scotindublin is on flapjack duty
- An excellent opportunity to start honing the race-reports skills.
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LOL. Anyway, let's close the book on the miles vs kilometers discussion.
Is anyone considering the Irish Runner 5M - the first race of the Dublin Marathon Race Series?
It's on June 12th in the Phoenix Park - and the entries close on May 27th.- As the training plans haven't started yet, a good chance to try and sharpen up a PB over a shorter distance
- Racing practice - it's a big race
- I believe scotindublin is on flapjack duty
- An excellent opportunity to start honing the race-reports skills.
A nice opportunity to meet up with your fellow novices too, I hope someone has sent scotindublin the flapjack recipe - we're very fussy :pac:0 -
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LOL. Anyway, let's close the book on the miles vs kilometers discussion.
Is anyone considering the Irish Runner 5M - the first race of the Dublin Marathon Race Series?
It's on June 12th in the Phoenix Park - and the entries close on May 27th.- As the training plans haven't started yet, a good chance to try and sharpen up a PB over a shorter distance
- Racing practice - it's a big race
- I believe scotindublin is on flapjack duty
- An excellent opportunity to start honing the race-reports skills.
I'm in for this. Signed up for all the race-series events except the Fingal 10k, fancied a few new tops 0 -
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Is anyone considering the Irish Runner 5M - the first race of the Dublin Marathon Race Series?
It's on June 12th in the Phoenix Park - and the entries close on May 27th.- As the training plans haven't started yet, a good chance to try and sharpen up a PB over a shorter distance
- Racing practice - it's a big race
- I believe scotindublin is on flapjack duty
- An excellent opportunity to start honing the race-reports skills.
Had planned on running this until I realised I'll be in France so that probably won't work. And I have to go to a friend's wedding the day of the Frank Duffy 10 mile. Aargh.
If anyone decides they're getting married the weekend of the Dublin half marathon, I'm no longer being their friend.
I haven't actually raced since last November & I've put in a lot of training since then, so if I don't see anything else I might try get in a parkrun or two before the official marathon training plan starts.0 -
LOL. Anyway, let's close the book on the miles vs kilometers discussion.
Is anyone considering the Irish Runner 5M - the first race of the Dublin Marathon Race Series?
It's on June 12th in the Phoenix Park - and the entries close on May 27th.- As the training plans haven't started yet, a good chance to try and sharpen up a PB over a shorter distance
- Racing practice - it's a big race
- I believe scotindublin is on flapjack duty
- An excellent opportunity to start honing the race-reports skills.
I have it penciled in, but more as a tester of whether or not I'm ready for marathon training than a nice way to kick off training. I make it that I have 4 weeks of training and one down(ish) week before it. I plan to do one workout a week in those 4 weeks, alternating between tempo runs and intervals. I'd like to nail down a proper goal time rather than what I did for my last 5 mile which was to run out way too fast and then cling on for the last 4k (2.5 miles). 0 -
I don't know if I'm actually going to commit to the marathon this year, I might wait until next year to be better prepared, but it was suggested I answer these anyway and since I'm open to input and I'm probably going to follow along here either way, I might as well.
I did C25k some time in 2014 with my girlfriend, but then gave up after completing it. I wasn't overweight or horribly unfit, just fairly sedentary in general and wanted to get active.
After forgetting about it for another year, I started running in earnest at the end of September 2015. I signed up for Jingle Bells and wanted to train for the best time I could over the next two months, pretty much from a base of zero. I managed to get around in just under 24 minutes* .
Since then I've gotten more and more hooked and I hope to run for the rest of my life and, of course, keep improving.
*I don't have an exact time because the chip timing didn't work on the day. I started way back and got stuck in heavy traffic. Gun time was 24:14, but my watch time was 23:36
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
Only parkruns and Jingle Bells.
5k PB was just under 24 mins in Dec 2015, but I think I am probably quicker now.
I've done 10k and 10 mile runs in training in about 55 mins and 90 mins respectively, but obviously these are not raced and at 'easy' pace so I've no idea how I will perform in races at longer distances.
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
Nope.
How much training do you currently do ?
Running 4 days a week, between 30 and 40km at the moment, but this is on an upward trajectory.
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
Personally I wouldn't be happy to just complete it, which is why I may wait a year. I'd be hoping to finish in under 4hrs and the dream would be 3:44:59, which would probably be a huge ask for me.
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
I could train 5-6 days a week. The Boards plan appeals because it's got a bit of variety and some speed work. I'd be hoping to improve my times over shorter distances throughout the cycle too, so it seems a better fit than HHN1.
Why are you running this marathon?
Well, I might not. I'll decide for sure by the end of June before the training kicks off in earnest. The reason I'd like to? I've been bitten by the bug. I absolutely love running and I want to try and set initial PBs for all distances from 5k up. I've already signed up for the 4 events in the Dublin Race Series and the marathon is the last step. Also I followed last year's novice thread and the atmosphere was fantastic, it was hard not to get swept up in it and want to take part.
Also I talk in kms but I can understand miles and translate.0 -
Pomplamousse wrote: »Had planned on running this until I realised I'll be in France so that probably won't work. And I have to go to a friend's wedding the day of the Frank Duffy 10 mile. Aargh.
If anyone decides they're getting married the weekend of the Dublin half marathon, I'm no longer being their friend.
I haven't actually raced since last November & I've put in a lot of training since then, so if I don't see anything else I might try get in a parkrun or two before the official marathon training plan starts.
The Dunshaughlin 10k is a great race, too. June 18th, AFAIK.0 -
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I'm in for this. Signed up for all the race-series events except the Fingal 10k, fancied a few new tops
I'm thinking of signing up for the series but like you I don't think I'll do the 10k. Is there another 10k on around the same time that I could do. If not I'll do it as my plan is well fitted for this race0 -
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Maximus Alexander wrote: »I don't know if I'm actually going to commit to the marathon this year, I might wait until next year to be better prepared, but it was suggested I answer these anyway and since I'm open to input and I'm probably going to follow along here either way, I might as well.
I did C25k some time in 2014 with my girlfriend, but then gave up after completing it. I wasn't overweight or horribly unfit, just fairly sedentary in general and wanted to get active.
After forgetting about it for another year, I started running in earnest at the end of September 2015. I signed up for Jingle Bells and wanted to train for the best time I could over the next two months, pretty much from a base of zero. I managed to get around in just under 24 minutes* .
Since then I've gotten more and more hooked and I hope to run for the rest of my life and, of course, keep improving.
*I don't have an exact time because the chip timing didn't work on the day. I started way back and got stuck in heavy traffic. Gun time was 24:14, but my watch time was 23:36
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
Only parkruns and Jingle Bells.
5k PB was just under 24 mins in Dec 2015, but I think I am probably quicker now.
I've done 10k and 10 mile runs in training in about 55 mins and 90 mins respectively, but obviously these are not raced and at 'easy' pace so I've no idea how I will perform in races at longer distances.
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
Nope.
How much training do you currently do ?
Running 4 days a week, between 30 and 40km at the moment, but this is on an upward trajectory.
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
Personally I wouldn't be happy to just complete it, which is why I may wait a year. I'd be hoping to finish in under 4hrs and the dream would be 3:44:59, which would probably be a huge ask for me.
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
I could train 5-6 days a week. The Boards plan appeals because it's got a bit of variety and some speed work. I'd be hoping to improve my times over shorter distances throughout the cycle too, so it seems a better fit than HHN1.
Why are you running this marathon?
Well, I might not. I'll decide for sure by the end of June before the training kicks off in earnest. The reason I'd like to? I've been bitten by the bug. I absolutely love running and I want to try and set initial PBs for all distances from 5k up. I've already signed up for the 4 events in the Dublin Race Series and the marathon is the last step. Also I followed last year's novice thread and the atmosphere was fantastic, it was hard not to get swept up in it and want to take part.
Also I talk in kms but I can understand miles and translate.
Hello Maximus Alexander - welcome to the thread!
No rush to sign-up for DCM. I believe you can sign-up until quite late (I'm sure it'll be in the FAQs on the site somewhere).
You have a sensible approach. Don't rush into any decision just yet - train regularly, at the right pace, while slowly increasing the weekly mileage. Don't be tempted to run many races - even tho you will feel your fitness and endurance improve, keep an eye on the end-goal. For now, I think your end-goal should be to get to the DCHM in September.
For the next few months, keep a realistic outlook. The boards plan is tough. You will be running half-marathon distances pretty much 13-14 weekends in a row - and since it appears you haven't covered that distance yet, HHN1 might be better suited (you can change one of the sessions to be a PMP session if you want to vary the paces).
As for marathon training, let's see how you get on through September. Use 4 hours as your PMP but don't get hung up on that as a goal. In fact, don't get hung up on doing the marathon, full stop (which you don't seem to be, so excellent).
Follow the plans and keep us posted on your progress, and you can well nail a fine half marathon debut in September. Going on to the full will be a stretch-goal, I hope you get there, but you may decide to move it to 2017.
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