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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Without exaggerating, it's the most impressive sporting achievement of all time that I can think of.

    Anyone thing of something better?

    I was having a beer with the father in law yesterday. He's a GAA man through and through and I was trying to put it into context. I said it would be about as likely as New York winning the All Ireland.

    They were in The Championship 2 years ago. They were 6 points above relegation last season and were odds on for it going into the last stages of the season.

    Someone said it's like Greece in 2004 to me but it's far, far more unlikely than that. 5000/1. It would be like Ireland winning the GS, RWC and a clean sweep series in NZ in the space of 7 months....actually you'd probably get better odds on that.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    BBC's list of other "sporting shocks"

    The Red Sox one would only count if they won the Super Bowl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    BBC's list of other "sporting shocks"


    Wouldn't really agree with their list.

    Notts Forest would be the only one that's on a similar level there, for me and still not as impressive given money wasn't nearly as influential then. Forest actually broke the transfer record in that period when they signed Trevor Francis, I believe.

    The Red Sox were a very strong team going into 2004. The back story of the Buster Douglas win makes his victory far less surprising. Tyson was a sham in the build up and those in the know were very dubious about his prospects.

    Daly and Becker have merit but certainly not on the same level. Becker was a very hot prospect in tennis at the time. He was a top 20 player but not seeded at Wimbledon. Daly's victory is impressive but I struggle to rate a single golfing achievement too highly given it's over such a short period of time.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    It's up there with Michelle Smyth winning three gold medals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,001 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    It's actually amazing when you think about it. In almost all sports there is a chance for the underdog to win, but for Leicester they had to have the consistency to do it over 38 games!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,166 ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Buer wrote: »
    Wouldn't really agree with their list.

    Notts Forest would be the only one that's on a similar level there, for me and still not as impressive given money wasn't nearly as influential then. Forest actually broke the transfer record in that period when they signed Trevor Francis, I believe.

    The Red Sox were a very strong team going into 2004. The back story of the Buster Douglas win makes his victory far less surprising. Tyson was a sham in the build up and those in the know were very dubious about his prospects.

    Daly and Becker have merit but certainly not on the same level. Becker was a very hot prospect in tennis at the time. He was a top 20 player but not seeded at Wimbledon. Daly's victory is impressive but I struggle to rate a single golfing achievement too highly given it's over such a short period of time.

    In golfing terms I would maybe put Shane Lowry winning the Irish Open as an amateur up there, but agree on the others. I can't think of any sporting upset in my lifetime to surpass this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Swan Curry


    It's up there with Michelle Smyth winning three gold medals

    Even more comparable if that doctor's claims of who he was giving PEDs to are true


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Where would Connacht winning the Pro 12 rank in comparison to Leicester?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Zzippy wrote: »
    In golfing terms I would maybe put Shane Lowry winning the Irish Open as an amateur up there, but agree on the others. I can't think of any sporting upset in my lifetime to surpass this.

    Speaking of golf, the Miracle at Medinah?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,633 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    34th America's cup

    New Zealand were leading 8-1 in a best of 9 series and had been fairly dominant. America won 9-8. That is a pretty sick turn around.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Japan win over SA is surely up there. Of course that's a one off game as opposed to a consistent performance over a 38 game season...


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    errlloyd wrote: »
    34th America's cup

    New Zealand were leading 8-1 in a best of 9 series and had been fairly dominant. America won 9-8. That is a pretty sick turn around.

    Actually that would be close to it alright.

    It was like watching a horror show for the NZ team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Where would Connacht winning the Pro 12 rank in comparison to Leicester?

    Not in the same league IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,633 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Stheno wrote: »
    Actually that would be close to it alright.

    It was like watching a horror show for the NZ team

    I can't find real bookies odds for what the betting on USA actually was when they were 8-1 down, but assuming you gave the USA a 50/50 chance in each remaining race then they effectively had to win 8 coin tosses in a row. The odds of that are 250/1

    Kimi Raikonnen winning the 2007 F1 world championship must have looked pretty wildly unlikely with two races to go.

    He was 17 points behind first (with 20 to play for), and he was 5 points second. Hamilton (1st) had never not finished a race, and had only finished lower than 5th once in his career. McLaren had no break downs that entire season, the only non finish was Alonso crashing in the rain.

    Hamilton actually led most of the next grand prix, before famously sliding off the track because he wore out his tyres fighting for 1st when 5th would have made him world champion. Kimi won with Alonso second, meaning he was still in third place on the final race in Brazil.

    In the final race he needed Hamilton to come 7th or lower and Alonso to come 3rd or lower. They came 7th and 3rd. Season finished up with him on 110, and the other two on 109.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    errlloyd wrote: »
    34th America's cup

    New Zealand were leading 8-1 in a best of 9 series and had been fairly dominant. America won 9-8. That is a pretty sick turn around.

    Was that a collapse on NZs part or something superhuman by the Americans?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    errlloyd wrote: »
    34th America's cup

    New Zealand were leading 8-1 in a best of 9 series and had been fairly dominant. America won 9-8. That is a pretty sick turn around.

    Except at 8-1 down the Yanks took a time out and made changes to their boat. There's questions about how legal those changes were. It would be like if Leicester had gone on a spending spree in the Jan transfer window with money they didn't have.

    The only sports stories like it that I can think of are Kurt Warner winning the Super Bowl MVP when he was playing arena league football a couple of years earlier. And UTEP winning the NCAA Basketball Championship in 1966 with an all black team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    There was also that time the top 10 sides in world rugby did a home/away round robin, and Scotland surprisingly finished first with 15 wins (including the double over NZ), a draw, and 2 defeats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Where would Connacht winning the Pro 12 rank in comparison to Leicester?
    It wouldn't. Extremely unlikely at the outset but the Leicester achievement is on a totally other level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Felix Jones is God


    I think all the stars aligned this year for Leicester to win the epl. A horrible season for the big 4 and the lowest points total to win it in 20 years.
    But still, a huge achievement and up there with Man Utd doing the treble in 99-00 as the greatest epl memory I have


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,633 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Yeah_Right wrote: »
    Except at 8-1 down the Yanks took a time out and made changes to their boat. There's questions about how legal those changes were. It would be like if Leicester had gone on a spending spree in the Jan transfer window with money they didn't have.

    The only sports stories like it that I can think of are Kurt Warner winning the Super Bowl MVP when he was playing arena league football a couple of years earlier. And UTEP winning the NCAA Basketball Championship in 1966 with an all black team.

    Calling them yanks if fairly generous! At 8-1 down they replaced their entire team with Brits, kiwis and Aussies who tinkered with the boat and got the win.

    But that isn't unlike Leicster. I know Leicster's team is cheap, but it's not the cheapest team in the premiership. And in all departments other than playing staff they're brilliantly well resourced.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭b.gud


    I think I remember someone posting a link to the thread where we give feedback about the new site, could you post it again want to give feedback about the new site on mobile, cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    b.gud wrote: »
    I think I remember someone posting a link to the thread where we give feedback about the new site, could you post it again want to give feedback about the new site on mobile, cheers
    http://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057503701/150#99593318 is the old feeback thread that they say they'll probably shut down because the feeback is "too general" which I find a bit of an odd statement but whatever and

    http://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057588235/11#99587738 is for feeback to do with bugs/features on the new site.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Felix Jones is God


    Not sure about the 250, am going to have to count the empties, will report back on Friday...from my hospital bed ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    John Kasich has now suspended his campaign.

    Donald Trump is now uncontested. What a world!

    If you had told me this time last year that Trump would be a presidential candidate, that Connacht would be at the top of the Pro 12 and that Leicester would be Premier League champions I would probably have organised an intervention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    If Hilldog gets the nomination, which looks likely, then I think Trump will be the next president. A scary thought.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,656 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Teferi wrote: »
    If Hilldog gets the nomination, which looks likely, then I think Trump will be the next president. A scary thought.

    It's more than likely, it's a certainty short of her being indicted.

    With the giant proviso that I never thought he would get this far either, I think the chances of him winning a general election are absolutely minuscule. He will be hard pressed enough to win over the large swathes of republicans who don't like him. Independents absolutely hate the man (not that they're huge fans of Clinton, I could see a comparatively low turnout).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 365 ✭✭TeoReid


    I saw Hans Zimmer in concert last night. He's in Dublin at the end of May if anyone is interested. It was pretty amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Teferi wrote: »
    If Hilldog gets the nomination, which looks likely, then I think Trump will be the next president. A scary thought.

    I would say it's far more likely the other way round. If Hillary doesn't get the nomination more conservatives are likely to vote for Trump out of fear of the word socialism. Hilary is possibly more dangerous than Trump in a global sense though. America will invade somewhere in the first two years of her tenure of that you can be guaranteed. He doesn't have any concrete policies, she is an absolute hawk.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,997 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    The thing is you're either a Trump voter or you're not. I can't see him winning a lot of Republican votes from supporters of the other guys. I can't see many undecided voters being swayed either.
    If Sanders supporters get behind Clinton she should be safe enough. Low turnouts could help Trump though.

    I can't wait to see how he goes in debates against Clinton or Sanders. He won't get away with having no actual policies for much longer.... you'd hope.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    It's more than likely, it's a certainty short of her being indicted.

    With the giant proviso that I never thought he would get this far either, I think the chances of him winning a general election are absolutely minuscule. He will be hard pressed enough to win over the large swathes of republicans who don't like him. Independents absolutely hate the man (not that they're huge fans of Clinton, I could see a comparatively low turnout).

    Sanders can still gain the nomination if he wins most of the remaining States. An outside shot but still possible.

    A lot of non-Clinton Democrats would vote ABC, I really don't think a Trump win is outside the realms of possibility if she gets the nom.


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