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Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

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  • #1052
    Dardania
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    Track 240 wrote: »
    Saw the link on airliners about BDL. I think they are just making it up!

    Both Bradley and Aer Lingus have economic-development ambitions. In recent years, Aer Lingus has invested millions, Butler said, to reposition its Dublin base as a hub for its flights of Boeing 757 and Airbus A380 jetliners from the U.S. and other overseas destinations to deposit passengers, who then board its short-haul, Boeing 737s to destinations throughout Europe.

    It sounds a bit like the section in the Cara magazine about EIs 80th anniversary, and how they were crucial with the A330's entry to service / ETOPS. And the quote from the maintenance manager goes something like Lockheed probably owe them a few bob for it.

    Poor research...


  • #1053
    MoeJay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭MoeJay


    CJX is due in service May 4th.

    Undergoing cabin fit-out is what I'm given to understand..


  • #1054
    afatbollix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    Jaasssus lads we mightn't have to wait for Emirates after all.

    Aerlingus to maybe get a A380!

    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/a380-could-work-for-iag-at-iberia-and-aer-lingus-w-424428/


  • #1055
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,236 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    afatbollix wrote: »
    Jaasssus lads we mightn't have to wait for Emirates after all.

    Aerlingus to maybe get a A380!

    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/a380-could-work-for-iag-at-iberia-and-aer-lingus-w-424428/


    I can't imagine the 2nd hand market for A380's is blossoming at the moment!! As that's where he's saying they will be sourced!

    Sounds like manager speak, telling people what they want to hear,
    A big fleet expanding airline is always good news for investors etc...


  • #1056
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,905 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Emirates, Thai, Malaysian and Singapore all may be looking to sell either old frames or get out of operating entirely. Only wanting Roller limits them though.

    Posturing to get a better price on new from both Airbus and RR may be more likely. Both will want more total units sold.


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  • #1057
    afatbollix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    Its a bluff piece to perk up Airbuses ears that BA are looking 2nd hand but know they will want a huge order, He just wants a huge discount.

    Did he ever work for MOL? Went to he same school? Maybe they are snapchat friends?


  • #1058
    roundymac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    They are good social buddies in fact. I'm sure the odd airplane comes into the discussion. Although to read todays Farm Exam MOL is more the gentleman Farmer overseeing the sale of some of his prized Angus herd. €7k for 2 bulls less than two years old is handy money.


  • #1059
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    4th B752 not going to be in service before Saturday, a SNN 752 will do tomorrows IAD and Thursday/Friday flights cancelled!


  • #1060
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,489 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    SNN 752 will do tomorrows IAD

    SNN-BOS Cancelled as a result.


  • #1061
    Mebuntu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Mebuntu


    a SNN 752 will do tomorrows IAD and Thursday/Friday flights cancelled!
    SNN-BOS Cancelled as a result.
    Surprised at this treatment of pax (sorry, guests). Could they not have hired in an aircraft for a few days?

    "Smart" will not be too pleased :).

    At this time of year would there be enough spare capacity to re-route affected parties through other US airports and onwards on domestic?


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  • #1062
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,856 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Surprised also. Surly they would have known with a bit of notice that the new 757 would not be ready and could have sourced the likes of Titan, Omni or whoever to fill in. A good few pissed off pax one would imagine and understandably so.


  • #1063
    Bussywussy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Bussywussy


    There's a 330 covering Toronto too Saturday


  • #1064
    Razor44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Razor44


    Just on the cancelling of the snn-bos flight. Is this ultimately down to the culture the current CEO buys into?


  • #1065
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,489 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Razor44 wrote: »
    Just on the cancelling of the snn-bos flight. Is this ultimately down to the culture the current CEO buys into?

    Its more burden sharing than anything else, at least this time. (Unlike some others)


  • #1066
    Tenger
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Strumms wrote: »
    Surprised also. Surly they would have known with a bit of notice that the new 757 would not be ready and could have sourced the likes of Titan, Omni or whoever to fill in. A good few pissed off pax one would imagine and understandably so.
    Pretty sloppy situation. That aircraft has been in SNN for a couple of month now. Its condition should have been known. In fact I was surprised that it hasn't been in revenue service over the last week or two (shakedown flights so to speak) Either something very unusual cropped up or somebody was holding out and crossing their fingers over the last week.
    With the DUB-LAX route starting today this aircraft in service requirement was pretty much telegraphed out weeks,if not months ago.

    Razor44 wrote: »
    Just on the cancelling of the snn-bos flight. Is this ultimately down to the culture the current CEO buys into?
    SNN-BOS-BOS was prob cancelled as it had the lowest booked load and/or the lowest number of onward connecting passengers, when cancelling a flight the airline does actually try to cancel the one with the less knock on disruption.
    EG. Flight A with 100 pax, 60 who are connecting might be kept, while Flight B with 120 pax but only 20 are connecting will be cancelled. Or the cancellation could be based on which aircraft is available at the correct time today and when the aircraft might be needed in 2-3 days time, there are several factors that ultimately decide which flight gets cancelled

    Based on stuff I heard from last year I would say yes. Talking to an EI engineering mate just before Christmas. He said that EI did very well last Summer in terms of disruption. Very little tech snags and diversion creating chaos on the T/A operation. His fear was that the CEO/COO and the rest of the Exec team would then base this years timetable/operation on that 'relatively' trouble free summer.
    Now that's just one guy so I cant comment on current mgmt culture but from my time in EI flight Ops (years ago) I would concur.


  • #1067
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    EI-LAX is rather appropriately on her way to LAX for day one of the resumption of the DUB/LAX for EI


  • #1068
    Razor44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Razor44


    Tenger wrote: »
    Based on stuff I heard from last year I would say yes. Talking to an EI engineering mate just before Christmas. He said that EI did very well last Summer in terms of disruption. Very little tech snags and diversion creating chaos on the T/A operation. His fear was that the CEO/COO and the rest of the Exec team would then base this years timetable/operation on that relatively trouble free summer.
    Now that's just one guy so I cant comment on current mgmt culture but from my time in EI flight Ops (years ago) I would concur.

    Thanks Tenger. I wonder how long that culture will last. Can't see IAG loving the penny savings at the expense of pounds lost.

    Or am I totally wrong?


  • #1069
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Razor44 wrote: »
    Tenger wrote: »
    Based on stuff I heard from last year I would say yes. Talking to an EI engineering mate just before Christmas. He said that EI did very well last Summer in terms of disruption. Very little tech snags and diversion creating chaos on the T/A operation. His fear was that the CEO/COO and the rest of the Exec team would then base this years timetable/operation on that relatively trouble free summer.
    Now that's just one guy so I cant comment on current mgmt culture but from my time in EI flight Ops (years ago) I would concur.

    Thanks Tenger. I wonder how long that culture will last. Can't see IAG loving the penny savings at the expense of pounds lost.

    Or am I totally wrong?
    I fear IAG love and push for the type of penny pinching, bonus inspired, "looks good on paper" type of performance, unfortunately.

    Any news on the "new" A320 that's due to join the fleet ?


  • #1070
    A319er
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭A319er


    Well the chosen frame was declined by EI cabin was not suitable so a 5 week delay, thus EI EPU remains with EI in hangar 6 , in event needed
    Full Vueling exterior but ready if required


  • #1071
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    A319er wrote: »
    Well the chosen frame was declined by EI cabin was not suitable so a 5 week delay, thus EI EPU remains with EI in hangar 6 , in event needed
    Full Vueling exterior but ready if required
    Thanks for the reply, I assume then that the 5 week delay is for Vueling to refit the cabin to a suitable standard and not to source a new A320?


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  • #1072
    A319er
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 213 ✭✭A319er


    I believe frame sourced and wip as we speak


  • #1073
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    A319er wrote: »
    Well the chosen frame was declined by EI cabin was not suitable so a 5 week delay, thus EI EPU remains with EI in hangar 6 , in event needed
    Full Vueling exterior but ready if required

    Prob be fine until 20 May, likely full time after that until A320 arrives.
    There's a 330 covering Toronto too Saturday

    So there is and Sun IAD now cancelled.


  • #1074
    duskyjoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭duskyjoe


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »


    So there is and Sun IAD now cancelled.

    Hmmm, that's not good. Good post Tenger


  • #1075
    Tenger
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    A319er wrote: »
    ...
    Full Vueling exterior but ready if required
    Will we see the Vueling livery operating for EI...or is it just standby?
    duskyjoe wrote: »
    .....Good post Tenger
    A random chance that I was sober and coherent at the same time


  • #1076
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    I noticed last night that a Cork aircraft seemed to operate the SNN-FAO, how does this work? Surly the same crew wouldn't be in hours to do ORK-FAO-SNN-FAO-ORK ? Is there a crew change along the way? I hope so!


  • #1077
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,845 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Locker10a wrote: »
    I noticed last night that a Cork aircraft seemed to operate the SNN-FAO, how does this work? Surly the same crew wouldn't be in hours to do ORK-FAO-SNN-FAO-ORK ? Is there a crew change along the way? I hope so!

    Think it works like:

    1 - ORK-FAO-SNN
    2 - SNN-FAO-ORK


  • #1078
    roundymac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    So crew change at SNN, Old crew bussed back to Cork?


  • #1079
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    roundymac wrote: »
    So crew change at SNN, Old crew bussed back to Cork?
    That's a pain in the ass duty.....


  • #1080
    highlydebased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,477 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    roundymac wrote:
    So crew change at SNN, Old crew bussed back to Cork?

    Exactly


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  • #1081
    Tenger
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    roundymac wrote: »
    So crew change at SNN, Old crew bussed back to Cork?

    Oh the horror......thats sounds pretty rotten alright.


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