Season 6 Episode 2 "Home" thread "Non book readers"

karma_ · 03-05-2016 11:37PM

After watching again I'm now curious as to what part Hodor may play in the future. As much as Lyanna made a short appearance, Hodor just got way to much screen time to not be significant in the story in some way. The story old Nan told about getting kicked in the head by a horse as a child I think is a load of bollox, in Bran's vision he already has that scar on his temple.

Anyone have any ideas?

Jayop · 03-05-2016 11:39PM

karma_ wrote: »

After watching again I'm now curious as to what part Hodor may play in the future. As much as Lyanna made a short appearance, Hodor just got way to much screen time to not be significant in the story in some way. The story old Nan told about getting kicked in the head by a horse as a child I think is a load of bollox, in Bran's vision he already has that scar on his temple.

Anyone have any ideas?

Not sure and it may just be a red herring but I think you're right.

mzungu · 03-05-2016 11:55PM

karma_ wrote: »

After watching again I'm now curious as to what part Hodor may play in the future. As much as Lyanna made a short appearance, Hodor just got way to much screen time to not be significant in the story in some way. The story old Nan told about getting kicked in the head by a horse as a child I think is a load of bollox, in Bran's vision he already has that scar on his temple.

Anyone have any ideas?

Maybe he knows Jon Snows lineage and was sworn to secrecy. So now he says 'Hodor' anytime he wants to spill the beans.

seligehgit · 04-05-2016 12:00AM

Can somebody remind me what's the story with Littlefinger?Can't recall his last involvement.Is he back in the Vale with Lysa Arryn??

flazio · 04-05-2016 12:03AM

seligehgit wrote: »

Can somebody remind me what's the story with Littlefinger?Can't recall his last involvement.Is he back in the Vale with Lysa Arryn??

He shoved Lysa out the hole and Sansa helped him cover it up. He was last seen Kings Landing convincing the Queen Mother to let the Baratheons and the Boltons have at it and then take out the winner and appoint him warden of the North.

seligehgit · 04-05-2016 12:08AM

flazio wrote: »

He shoved Lysa out the hole and Sansa helped him cover it up. He was last seen Kings Landing convincing the Queen Mother to let the Baratheons and the Boltons have at it and then take out the winner and appoint him warden of the North.

Ah I recall it now,thanks.How could one forget Lysa's death...Such a wily auld character,divide and conquer and take the spoils as warden of the north.

eeguy · 04-05-2016 12:09AM

omerin wrote: »

with that in mind and not specifically related to this episode, what a terrific talent pool of Irish actors we have. It's more astounding when you consider the, generally speaking, poor quality of Irish produced TV and film in recent years.

It's because as soon as a good Irish actor makes some headway, they're off to London as theyre massively limited by RTE and the like.

You could say the same about Irish comedians, musicians and other entertainers.

fatknacker · 04-05-2016 12:35AM

Am I the only person on the planet who doesn't give too much of a hoot about Jon Snow? I'm glad his Jesus thing didn't drag out either so they can get on with the rest of the story's development.

I'm curious about whatever the hell happened happened Rickon and the Wildling woman.

...and the Children of the Forest look like Trustafarian vegans.

Savage Tyrant · 04-05-2016 12:50AM

Zaph wrote: »

Is anyone else starting to get p*ssed off by the lighting on the show? There are scenes that are nearly invisible on my TV they're so dark. It's not a problem I have with anything else I watch, so it's not the TV.

The lighting is definitely off.... I literally can't watch it unless the room is in darkness.
Aside to that, is anyone else noticing the sound being very low?... I have to crank the volume up way past the level I watch most programmes. Then the adverts come on and would deafen ya... Thankfully they can be skipped.

MadYaker · 04-05-2016 12:58AM

If you watch it on Sky HD it's fine. If you watch it on some crap stream or download a file that's less than 1GB of course it's going to look crap.

Ann22 · 04-05-2016 01:32AM

I hope we see folks' reactions when they see he's alive and it doesn't just jump past that bit.

Savage Tyrant · 04-05-2016 01:47AM

MadYaker wrote: »

If you watch it on Sky HD it's fine. If you watch it on some crap stream or download a file that's less than 1GB of course it's going to look crap.

Nah... I watch it on Sky Atlantic on a good LED TV... It's definitely dark. Definitely best viewed in a dark room.

Mackman · 04-05-2016 04:12AM

On the whole "why does Davos care about Jon Snow thing", I see Davos as the moral compass of the series. Tries to do whats right, stands up for who he thinks is the rightful heir etc.

In this case, Jon Snow is the good guy, he is the Lord Commander and he was betrayed. Therefore that's the side he takes.

Fairly simplistic view I know

DublinBust · 04-05-2016 08:15AM

amos13 wrote: »

DublinBust wrote:

Well people have complaints, how else to tell them there's a reason for that? The series has gone well past the books now, there's nowt to spoil.

The dorne, iron islands and riverlands storylines have not caught up with the books. (Although dorne may just have taken an entirely different route) There's also many side stories that seem like they were cut in the show but may just have a timeline readjustment and have yet to be shown. In fact there's still some big reveals to be made if they're not cut entirely.

Which is why you'll find book readers are largely sound and don't mention stuff unless it is spoilery (if I'm thinking of what you're thinking of); but if people are moaning about subplots being brought back, it is not a 'book spoiler' to claim that its probably for a reason (that is unknown to the book readers too, I might add).

Also, to the poster who said Aria is further along, that is untrue. The books are now significantly behind anything in the show.

I understand people's aversion to reading the series, I found I absorbed quite little of them, too many lords and lassies to remember. If you're interested, ALT Shift X is a fantastic youtube channel that theorizes about how the story will eventually turn out, using a mix of book and series info. There are book 'spoilers', if you want a bigger picture but don't want to go reading them. https://www.youtube.com/user/JaiWbio

DublinBust · 04-05-2016 08:18AM

Jayop wrote: »

DublinBust wrote: »

Well people have complaints, how else to tell them there's a reason for that? The series has gone well past the books now, there's nowt to spoil.

By saying nothing would be a better start. There's still a reason that there's a separate book thread and show thread. It's because people who haven't read the books DON'T want to be told about characters who may or may not be appearing. Christ how hard is it to simply not refer to the books in the thread for non book readers?

No one mentioned anything about characters that would be back or not. Claiming that there must be a reason for it is common sense, not a spoiler; book readers know nothing more than you do at this point. People just get easily butthurt about stuff these days.

The original exchange, for those too lazy;

loyatemu said:
"Hooray, we're back in the Iron Islands."

said no-one.

How long has it taken them to get back to that plot, and really, who cares?

"Then they still have a part to play, simple as that. The events you saw went down two books ago; they brought them back because they needed to. The books and series are planned to end up roughly in the same place ya know."

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No Spoilers there. Most book readers are sound in my experience and keep it shut. Series watchers can be overly twitchy. It's like an inferiority complex almost. Relax dudes!

Jayop · 04-05-2016 08:30AM

I don't care if you think it's spoilers, I, and most other TV people simply don't want to hear the books being mentioned in relation to things happening or not happening on the show. Seriously is it hard to comprehend or is this another forum about the show I'll have to avoid because people can't show a but of cop on.

squonk · 04-05-2016 08:54AM

Jayop wrote: »

I don't care if you think it's spoilers, I, and most other TV people simply don't want to hear the books being mentioned in relation to things happening or not happening on the show. Seriously is it hard to comprehend or is this another forum about the show I'll have to avoid because people can't show a but of cop on.

I disagree. There are plots I really care about, like what happens to the crew in Kings Landing, what happens Danni & her dragons, what happens Jon Snow etc. that I don't want to be spoilered for me. There are other parts, like the Iron Islands, Ramsey etc. that I don't care significantly about. I haven't seen any spoilers really mentioned here so far. All that's been said is that more has happened in the books in terms of other streams of storylines or peripheral characters that we may not have seen yet. No shít sherlock! They're big books and I already know that some characters are composites of 2 or more characters from the books. The indignation here so far strikes me as people making a mountain out of a molehill. At this point I think the book readers are almost as much in the dark about the show as us non-book readers. Whatever happens, you can be sure that by the end of this season, the fields should be well and truly leveled I'd say.

Penny Dreadful · 04-05-2016 10:17AM

lertsnim wrote: »

Ramsay Bolton is brilliantly evil. Joffrey is nothing beside him.

Jon Snow coming back from the dead was obvious when it was just him and the wolf in the room but I think most people guessed that would happen a long time ago.

Ramsey is the type of character you'd actually be scared of. Joffrey was a little $h1t who needed a long time on the naughty step years ago but I don't think he was as truly nasty and deep down horrible scary a person as Ramsey.

04-05-2016 10:48AM

DublinBust wrote: »

Well that's something you have to sort through yourself IMO, it's not my problem if someone is overly delicate, like I said, I linked to my original post and it is just as speculative as a series watchers because NO ONE KNOWS ANYMORE. Also, please don't assume to speak for others.

Let's get back on topic...

There is a separate thread for people who have read the books. Seriously. Delicate or not, how hard is that to understand.

laugh · 04-05-2016 11:20AM

Maybe the threads should be changed to "People interested in speculation" and people not.

duploelabs · 04-05-2016 11:45AM

Penny Dreadful wrote: »

Ramsey is the type of character you'd actually be scared of. Joffrey was a little $h1t who needed a long time on the naughty step years ago but I don't think he was as truly nasty and deep down horrible scary a person as Ramsey.

There're so many scenes with Tywin that demonstrate this...
"You send the most powerful man in westeros without his supper"
If Tywin tried this to Ramsey he'd end up as pedigree chum in no time

JustShon · 04-05-2016 11:50AM

duploelabs wrote: »

There're so many scenes with Tywin that demonstrate this...
"You send the most powerful man in westeros without his supper"
If Tywin tried this to Ramsey he'd end up as pedigree chum in no time

Or all the times Tyrion slapped him. Could you imagine what Ramsey would do to someone who slapped him?

Penny Dreadful · 04-05-2016 12:57PM

JustShon wrote: »

Or all the times Tyrion slapped him. Could you imagine what Ramsey would do to someone who slapped him?

He'd cut off their hand and use it as an ashtray or something else.

Jayop · 04-05-2016 12:59PM

DublinBust wrote: »

Well that's something you have to sort through yourself IMO, it's not my problem if someone is overly delicate, like I said, I linked to my original post and it is just as speculative as a series watchers because NO ONE KNOWS ANYMORE. Also, please don't assume to speak for others.

Let's get back on topic...

It's not just my problem though. A mod said the same a page or so back.

JustShon · 04-05-2016 12:59PM

Penny Dreadful wrote: »

He'd cut off their hand and use it as an ashtray or something else.

Or slap them with their own hand.

Keep it in his pocket and use it to wave at them every time he sees them.

Pepe LeFrits · 04-05-2016 01:03PM

duploelabs wrote: »

There're so many scenes with Tywin that demonstrate this...
"You send the most powerful man in westeros without his supper"
If Tywin tried this to Ramsey he'd end up as pedigree chum in no time

Can't imagine Tywin letting Ramsey ever get into a position where he'd be able to make him pedigree chum to be honest. Then again I couldn't see Roose allowing that either but the writers decided that the plot needed to move forward, so bam.

I think that's my main gripe with season 5 and now season 6. GoT's plot used to be driven by the characters. Now it's the other way around.

HiGlo · 04-05-2016 01:11PM

John_D80 wrote: »

I think what he was getting at was that there was no dramatic catalyst or event that led to her doing it other than Davos just casually asking her as if he was asking if she had change of a twenty. The build up to the ''resurrection'' was very ho-hum.

See, I had assumed when he took the body and kept it away from Thorne and the others that he was already half thinking of yer woman and what she could do....
What was the point of stashing the body otherwise, why not just bury/burn him..... He was (in my mind) obviously thinking "there must be something we can do"......

eeguy · 04-05-2016 01:54PM

HiGlo wrote: »

See, I had assumed when he took the body and kept it away from Thorne and the others that he was already half thinking of yer woman and what she could do....
What was the point of stashing the body otherwise, why not just bury/burn him..... He was (in my mind) obviously thinking "there must be something we can do"......

Wasn't that the whole point of locking themselves in the room?
To protect the body so Mel could do some magic on him.

Why else would they be in the room?

DublinBust · 04-05-2016 02:19PM

Deleted User wrote: »

DublinBust wrote: »

Well that's something you have to sort through yourself IMO, it's not my problem if someone is overly delicate, like I said, I linked to my original post and it is just as speculative as a series watchers because NO ONE KNOWS ANYMORE. Also, please don't assume to speak for others.

Let's get back on topic...

There is a separate thread for people who have read the books. Seriously. Delicate or not, how hard is that to understand.

A person asked a question, I answered it; how hard is that to understand?

DublinBust · 04-05-2016 02:21PM

eeguy wrote: »

HiGlo wrote: »

See, I had assumed when he took the body and kept it away from Thorne and the others that he was already half thinking of yer woman and what she could do....
What was the point of stashing the body otherwise, why not just bury/burn him..... He was (in my mind) obviously thinking "there must be something we can do"......

Wasn't that the whole point of locking themselves in the room?
To protect the body so Mel could do some magic on him.

Why else would they be in the room?

Because they were knew they'd have been missed at the meeting, and knew Thorne would be slicing them up soon; they were locking themselves up until back-up came. All of this is clearly expressed in the first episode.

Season 6 Episode 2 "Home" thread "Non book readers"

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