Season 6 Episode 2 "Home" thread "Non book readers"

I felt bad for Walda and her baby. They might not have gotten a whole lot of screentime, but they kind of sum up the idea of innocent bystanders getting caught in the crossfire. They really were just in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong family.

I'm also interested to see if Walder Frey buys Ramsey's story about Roose being poisoned and whatever yarn he's going to spin about Walda and her baby dying. After all, he took part in the murder of Robb Stark over a broken alliance similar to that which was arranged between Roose and Walda.

I think Roose basically summed up what's going to happen to Ramsey with the "if you act like a mad dog, you'll be treated like a mad dog" line. Ramsey has no impulse control and thinks that he'll be able to rule through sheer brutality. I suspect he might meet a fairly gruesome end.

walshb wrote: »

Ramsay's character for me is just way too far fetched. His depravity is obscene, and there is no way someone like that gets to live for so long in this fcuked up world of GOT. He's all too predictable and boring at this stage.

I kind of agree with this. I don't even find myself hating him the way I hated Joffrey, even though Ramsey has done waaaaay worse things than Joffrey ever did.

I think it was Joffrey's petulant child attitude that made him to detestable. His yelling and stomping his feet and demanding he gets what he wants was exactly what you'd see from a toddler in a toy shop.

There's nothing to Ramsey but his cruelty.

I don't think Ramsey is all that compelling as a character either. There's just nothing really nuanced about him. It was a little bit interesting when there was an impression that everything he was doing was driven by a desire to please his father and that he craved approval, but now that Roose is dead, that's all gone.

Saint Sonner wrote: »

Whose the girl with Bran?

I think it was mentioned earlier that it was Meera of the Reed family,not one of the children of the forest.

JustShon wrote: »

Yeah, I felt bad for them but it wasn't much of a shock really. I think it could have had more impact if they'd let it hang a bit longer, let us feel he threat to Walda + baby. We barely had time to think "Oh sh1t, Walda and the baby are probably next" before it had happened.

I reckon Ramsey has fcuked himself badly. He's just not smart enough to hold Winterfell by himself. He's cunning in his own way but he lets cruelty get in the way too much and he was power mad enough before he became the lord of his house.

We'll see a series of morally reprehensible but ultimately foolish moves by him over the course of the season.

I felt certain that Roose and Walda would be killed off by Ramsay this season. Actually held by breath the first episode - anticipated a more graphic death for Walda (I didn't anticipate the dogs, dang!)

Next episode I'd say
Yeah Ramsay is basically psychopath on a stick with daddy and identity issues, but he no longer has a daddy to have issues with and no longer seems to identify himself really as a Bolton (seeing as he's effectively just killed off the Boltons... small family now that I think about it).

So just a psychopath, eh? But what would be cool would be to see a psychopath going head to head with a strong personality. I don't mean Jon Snow .... ... because that is just meeting brawn with brawn. The fact that the conflict between Ramsay and Stannis and Ramsay and Roose ended as soon as it had begun cut off any possibility of such a clash of wills.

Sure I get that the show is setting out to show that Ramsay is the bad guy who has to be overthrown, but I got that back when he was castrating Theon three seasons ago, I didn't need to get the inference of him raping Sansa or feeding his brother to dogs to get the point.

GerB40 wrote: »

It's Khal

I should feel ashamed of myself. Should.

DublinBust wrote:

Well people have complaints, how else to tell them there's a reason for that? The series has gone well past the books now, there's nowt to spoil.

The dorne, iron islands and riverlands storylines have not caught up with the books. (Although dorne may just have taken an entirely different route) There's also many side stories that seem like they were cut in the show but may just have a timeline readjustment and have yet to be shown. In fact there's still some big reveals to be made if they're not cut entirely.