Season 6 Episode 2 "Home" thread "Non book readers"

seligehgit · 03-05-2016 12:37AM

Any significance in the discrepancy between the 2 brothers lost in the war by Yara and the 3 sons lost by Baylon Greyjoy??

stesaurus · 03-05-2016 12:39AM

seligehgit wrote: »

Any significance in the discrepancy between the 2 brothers lost in the war by Yara and the 3 sons lost by Baylon Greyjoy??

Baylon is counting Theon as lost as he was taken as a ward

gandalf · 03-05-2016 12:40AM

seligehgit wrote: »

Any significance in the discrepancy between the 2 brothers lost in the war by Yara and the 3 sons lost by Baylon Greyjoy??

I have a feeling that Balon counts Theon as lost as well when he was taken away to live with the Starks.

aligator_am · 03-05-2016 01:02AM

seligehgit wrote: »

Was it Arya of whom Sansa was querying of whilst in conversation with Brienne?Brienne obviously didn't mention she'd disposed of the Hound.

Surely it's got to be set up that Reek/Theon Greyjoy will kill our wonderfully charactered sadist friend Ramsey Bolton given his own torture at his hands?Poetic justice at it's finest...

Yeah, almost certain it was Arya she was talking about, although she said something like "she was with a man" instead of saying "she was with the Hound" so not 100%

mzungu · 03-05-2016 01:25AM

Great scene between Jamie and the Priest. Things are going to get messy in Kings Landing real soon.

RichFTW · 03-05-2016 04:38AM

pickarooney wrote: »

Wun Wun AET means sudden death.

I find Ramsey immensely boring. You always know what's going to happen with him.Torture, murder, yaaaaawn. Rats Bolton was a much more interesting character. Great voice too.

Wow I'm just after picking up on that link after you said it! Probably best he died as I wouldn't have been able to take him seriously now that I realise who he was.

BMMachine · 03-05-2016 04:43AM

The last great Irish comedy

DublinBust · 03-05-2016 05:04AM

brinty wrote: »

Anyone else think Melisandre was going to have to have here wicked way with Jon to resurrect him???

Thoros had to kiss his, so partially, yes

Then fire came out of his mouth. All in all it wasn't as dramatic in the show as it needed to be.

leonil7 · 03-05-2016 06:11AM

late for easter though, but i bet everyone downstairs will kneel when jon comes out that door alive.

A Primal Nut · 03-05-2016 06:43AM

degrassinoel wrote: »

Ramsey is the new Joffrey, be nice to see him get killed in whatever fashion, slowly and with fire hopefully

Also, is Theon the King of the Iron Islands now?

That's the thing, we waited four seasons for Joffrey to meet a gruesome end, preferably at the hands of one of the Starks. And instead he just got poisoned by a scheming rival. Bit of a letdown but that's Game Of Thrones - they don't want to give the viewer the satisfaction of revenge (except for Arya who was my favorite character for the first 3/4 seasons).

the sword · 03-05-2016 09:18AM

[font=Calibri, sans-serif]Thought it was an average episode but slowly building up to greater things. Glad they didn t drag out the resurrecting but given the pacing of the show don t think they could if they wanted. [/font]
[font=Calibri, sans-serif]Think Ramsey is the best villain on the show as he shows no remorse whatsoever and his scenes of pure cuntness make the show worth watching alone. Thought the scene between sparrow and Jamie was great viewing and looking forward to that playing out. [/font]

[font=Calibri, sans-serif]Does it annoy anybody else the lack of dragon action? I want the three dragons to go to town on someone and burn the fcuk out of things![/font]

walshb · 03-05-2016 10:02AM

Another average episode that is dragging on. I agree as regards the lighting. Almost every scene is a strain to see what is happening. As for Arya. How many more full force smacks in the face from a hard wooden stick can she take?

conorhal · 03-05-2016 10:26AM

brinty wrote: »

Anyone else think Melisandre was going to have to have here wicked way with Jon to resurrect him???

Yup. At one point I was sure Ghost was for it, that she would burn the Direwolf while performing sexy CPR or something, but no, raising the dead seems like a peice of piss requiring no more effort then gently shaking sombody awake and telling them they're late for work. It was weak sauce. On the whole the direction of the last two episodes has been poor, all about hitting plot points in as perfunctory manner as possible.

KerranJast · 03-05-2016 10:42AM

conorhal wrote: »

Yup. At one point I was sure Ghost was for it, that she would burn the Direwolf while performing sexy CPR or something, but no, raising the dead seems like a peice of piss requiring no more effort then gently shaking sombody awake and telling them they're late for work. It was weak sauce. On the whole the direction of the last two episodes has been poor, all about hitting plot points in as perfunctory manner as possible.

Yeah super easy. Almost like some supernatural horror has reawakened in the world and a balancing supernatural force is attempting to counter it. :rolleyes:

HamsterFace · 03-05-2016 10:44AM

I enjoyed that episode a lot. It seems I have really begun to enjoy gore since watching GoT and so immensely enjoyed seeing those two lads have their heads smashed against the wall by the Giant and the Mountain!

One thing I'm not so sure on is why Davos has such love for Jon Snow? Obviously he admired him and saw him as a good leader but he wasn't at the wall very long, don't see why he cares so much, certainly so much to want to see him resurrected from the dead?

the sword · 03-05-2016 11:07AM

HamsterFace wrote: »

I enjoyed that episode a lot. It seems I have really begun to enjoy gore since watching GoT and so immensely enjoyed seeing those two lads have their heads smashed against the wall by the Giant and the Mountain!

One thing I'm not so sure on is why Davos has such love for Jon Snow? Obviously he admired him and saw him as a good leader but he wasn't at the wall very long, don't see why he cares so much, certainly so much to want to see him resurrected from the dead?

Aye was thinking that myself, why would he want Jon back so badly?

FixitFelix · 03-05-2016 11:10AM

conorhal wrote: »

Yup. At one point I was sure Ghost was for it, that she would burn the Direwolf while performing sexy CPR or something, but no, raising the dead seems like a peice of piss requiring no more effort then gently shaking sombody awake and telling them they're late for work. It was weak sauce. On the whole the direction of the last two episodes has been poor, all about hitting plot points in as perfunctory manner as possible.

It may have been easy, but i can't help but feel there will be terrible repercussions because of it!

LionelNashe · 03-05-2016 11:15AM

OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »

Significantly better than the first episode.

Losing the Roose is a big blow through - and somewhat out of character for him. He was deliberately riling Ramsay up: I think he would have been a bit more on his guard. Roose was always one for security over honour: I think that if he had intended disposing of Ramsay due to having a "legitimate" son he would have kept that under wraps. You didn't see him making snide comments to Robb such as "you know what happens to bad kings? They get stabbed in the back". Really hoping for a longer downfall to Roose, over way too quick.

Rest of the episode was pretty solid, but the direction for Snow rebirth was a bit awkward. The only question was whether it was going to be dragged out into the next episode. It's hard to get a good feel for how much time has passed: when we saw Karl Drogo being resurrected he was brain dead because too much time had passed, while Beric Dondarrion was resurrected almost immediately (less than a minute after being killed by Sandor Clegane).

But why do shows and films keep showing keeping getting hit with enough force that it would knock them unconscious? Arya would be lucky to not have a brain haemorrhage after being hit by a quaterstaff to the head.

Ah, good old Karl. I've just been rewatching the first 3 episodes of season 1 and he had a great presence for an actor with practically no lines.

03-05-2016 11:27AM

the sword wrote: »

Aye was thinking that myself, why would he want Jon back so badly?

No Jon, no army. Also, Stannis seemed to know something about Jon's origins, perhaps Davos knows also. Plus he may also see Jon as the last chance at a 'just' leader for the seven kingdoms, and of course the only hope for defeating the WW.

mzungu · 03-05-2016 11:39AM

walshb wrote: »

Another average episode that is dragging on. I agree as regards the lighting. Almots every scene is a starin to see what is happening. As for Arya. How many more full force smacks in the face from a hard wooden stick can she take?

Thank God I'm not the only one. Especially the Bran scenes in that episode.

HamsterFace · 03-05-2016 11:59AM

Sergio Georgini wrote: »

No Jon, no army. Also, Stannis seemed to know something about Jon's origins, perhaps Davos knows also. Plus he may also see Jon as the last chance at a 'just' leader for the seven kingdoms, and of course the only hope for defeating the WW.

Now that I think of it, wasn't it Davos father who was Lord Commander of the NW before Jon Snow and his faith in JS may have some inflame also

03-05-2016 12:09PM

HamsterFace wrote: »

Now that I think of it, wasn't it Davos father who was Lord Commander of the NW before Jon Snow and his faith in JS may have some inflame also

No, that was Jorah's father. I don't think Davos' father is anyone important seeing as Davos himself only became knighted after Roberts Rebellion.

Dubh Geannain · 03-05-2016 12:16PM

How long does the transition to wight usually take? I was surprised to see everyone leave a corpse unattended (though not from a dramatic effect perspective).

Enjoyed the episode myself. A positive one for House Stark too.

The problem with watching trailors.

I'm waiting for certain things to happen to check them off. Like Cersei saying "I choose violence" while standing with the Mountain in front of some cultivists. Can't wait for that scene

Newborn to the dogs though :eek:

I thought burning a kid at the stake was as heartwrenchingly shocking as the show could get. I don't want to imagine how/if they could outdo that.

quad_red · 03-05-2016 12:18PM

Sergio Georgini wrote: »

No, that was Jorah's father. I don't think Davos' father is anyone important seeing as Davos himself only became knighted after Roberts Rebellion.

For all that Jorah is at death's door with the gray scale, I always thought that Jon and Jorah would have to meet at some point given that Jon is now rocking Long Claw (the weapon of House Mormont. Jorah wielded it but gave it back to his father before escaping into exile).

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Longclaw

Slattsy · 03-05-2016 01:07PM

A fairly pathetic resurrection imho. They could have done so much more.

Decent episode though.

HamsterFace · 03-05-2016 01:10PM

Sergio Georgini wrote: »

No, that was Jorah's father. I don't think Davos' father is anyone important seeing as Davos himself only became knighted after Roberts Rebellion.

Ah of course you're right, got my weather beaten Irish lads mixed up

Riskymove · 03-05-2016 02:24PM

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

How long does the transition to wight usually take? I was surprised to see everyone leave a corpse unattended (though not from a dramatic effect perspective).

I think you have to be turned by a White Walker rather than a natural process

JustShon · 03-05-2016 02:38PM

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

I thought burning a kid at the stake was as heartwrenchingly shocking as the show could get. I don't want to imagine how/if they could outdo that.

I found Stannis burning his kid alive to be a lot worse personally. I think it's because we saw Stannis hesitate, and you had some build up where you were thinking "Don't do it Stannis, you know this is wrong, don't fcuking do it!"

With Ramsey as soon as he summoned Walda and her child it was a case of "Welp, they're both dead."

StringerBell · 03-05-2016 03:03PM

I liked the episode, though it still doesn't feel quite right to me yet. Thought they were going to drag Jon out another episode which would have infuriated me so happy its done now anyway.

The only thing that struck me about the dogs savaging the mother and baby was how little it shocked/surprised or bothered me, the show has lost that ability I think after everything that has happened. Sure it was savage and and all that, but it was Ramsey so..............

Compared to Red Wedding, Ned losing his head, Oberyns head exploding etc, it just didn't have the desired effect really (on me anyway)

The other thing GOT has reminded me of so well, is how much I hate having to wait a week between feckin episodes!!

JustShon · 03-05-2016 03:19PM

StringerBell wrote: »

I liked the episode, though it still doesn't feel quite right to me yet. Thought they were going to drag Jon out another episode which would have infuriated me so happy its done now anyway.

The only thing that struck me about the dogs savaging the mother and baby was how little it shocked/surprised or bothered me, the show has lost that ability I think after everything that has happened. Sure it was savage and and all that, but it was Ramsey so..............

Compared to Red Wedding, Ned losing his head, Oberyns head exploding etc, it just didn't have the desired effect really (on me anyway)

The other thing GOT has reminded me of so well, is how much I hate having to wait a week between feckin episodes!!

Yeah, there were several factors that made it less shocking.

1: As you pointed out, it's Ramsey we're talking about. If we found him lying in a bed made out of skinned infants at the start of the next episode we wouldn't bat an eyelid.

2: Unlike the other examples you gave, we never got to know Walda very well. She always hung at the background not doing much. Hard to feel too much for a character who barely spoke.

Season 6 Episode 2 "Home" thread "Non book readers"

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