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Do you believe in the devil

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Joined the British army


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭JoseWasntReady


    He hangs out in obscure areas of Ireland. Mad for crashing card games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    ...And for the musical interlude, here's old Nick Cave And the Bad Seeds with "Up Jumped The Devil".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    And where's he at these days? Some say she rose again....
    vicwatson wrote: »
    Buried in Killarney

    Well thank you, both of you. I've had that damned song in my head all morning now!

    Although at least it got me off Sk8r Boi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,060 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    No, but I do believe in the divil.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Boots Electric is the Devil \m/



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    He's in Syria...running around jabbing people with his pitchfork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,456 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    No I don't believe in the devil. But the song is catchy.
    I don't believe in God either because John Lennon had it right. " God is a concept by which we measure our pain"
    I think the creation of the myth of the devil was initially designed to instill belief in the myth of God, and create a fear of the consequences of not believing in the God/believing in other variants of God.

    Nowadays the "Devil" is used as excuse for "Gods" laziness or inaction. Or if one group do not like another. The myth of God is only viewed by people where there is a happy coincidence, joy, relief or a bit of luck. The myth of the Devil is needed to explain misfortune, unhappiness or cruel happenstance.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,436 ✭✭✭cml387


    I believe the leader of the current transport strikes is the devil.

    Luascifer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    A man of wealth and taste, by all accounts.
    He's been around for a long long year, I believe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    He rode around in a tank I heard.

    Always piss myself laughing at that image.


  • Posts: 7,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    valoren wrote: »
    But who prays for Satan?

    Mark Twain

    He said, "I can't believe I'm asking, but Sir Galahad please tell me -
    What is it that makes you want to go to Heaven?"

    In Heaven there's no lamb chops,
    Queen Guineveres for hand jobs,
    Marijuana, Kenny Rogers or ecstasy.

    No pillaging, no rape
    perhaps you've come by some mistake
    to me? This seems more error than knight errantry.

    Josh Ritter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,134 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    I think "the god" and "the devil" is in every single one of us and us only. It is our free will choice if we will live one way or the other, or any mixture of it in-between, ultimately a path of trial and error, and boi, we have so much more to learn to live well. Some are closer to it, some so much further down...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    He's in Miss Jones


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Isn't his greatest achievement convincing everybody he doesn't exist? That and getting on Man Utd's badge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    And where's he at these days? Some say she rose again....

    Who said its a he? I was convinced i woke up beside lucifer himself this morning,but with lady bits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    He's in Georgia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Who said its a he? I was convinced i woke up beside lucifer himself this morning,but with lady bits.
    I've become disturbingly aroused at this :eek: :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Doing some car insurance thing I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭12Phase


    Isn't it the Divil in most of Ireland anyway?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mahoganygas


    I don't believe in the Devil.

    I do believe in the Devil's Threesome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Isn't there an Irish surname... Divilly... that can be traced back to the Divil?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,692 ✭✭✭Stigura


    He's among us. Just after starting a thread denying the existence of Black Holes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    I've become disturbingly aroused at this :eek: :o

    Shes back to her usual angelic self now,ive chided her on the cloven feet,she swore she'd see a chiropodist (at my expense naturally :o) but Im sure everything is gonna be aaaaalright!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,422 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    As a kid I was convinced of The Devil's existence. I remember one evening, when I was about five or six, at home watching the evening news. The headlines were flying by. I didn't really comprehend what I was watching, but I was aware that I was watching footage of pain and suffering from some far flung war that was going on at the time. I remember that some of the footage was focused on images of children, probably in refugee camps. They were about my age. The thought of something as awful as this as being just a fact of life for some poor bastards, who were just like me, made me instantaneously doubt the idea of all knowing and ever loving God, "God's a f!cker", thought I.

    Of course, almost immediately afterward, my primary school religious education and weekly mass going sent thoughts of guilt flying back into my head - If God did truly exist, and everyone said he did, I'd actually committed a terrible sin. Maybe the worst of all: I'd thought he was an uncaring arsehole! I was dammed for sure.

    And even then I knew what dammed meant. They usually went softly, softly enough on us at school, in infants, when it came to religion; God seemed to be a lot about Jesus and The Apostles, coloring in and singing songs, but I could read between the lines; I knew at the back of all this messing about there was some pretty heavy stuff. Stuff like Hell and The Devil. That's where God sent ya if you displeased him, and there was no coming back from that - You were goosed forever, with no chance of escape. So now I'd ruined my chances of eternal happiness because of some spontaneous thought I'd had while watching the TV. How could I have been so stupid?

    So for the next few years I existed in this weird dual state - 95% of the time I was a usual happy child, but, whenever the subject of anything religious came up, I'd remember, with frustration in my heart, that I was going to Hell.

    That was a bit of a bummer. It was weird, being able to go about most of the time without a care in the world, and then to occasionally be reminded not to forget that, someday, I was bound for The Pit of Fire. Contradictory, I know. But when I was a kid death in general was such a hard to grasp idea and I knew that Hell would come after my own death - which was supposedly ages off. So, it was easy to ignore potential eternal damnation sometimes, and to be, in the back of my mind, totally convinced and petrified of it at other times.

    So growing up it was stuff about The Devil and Hell that sent the fear up me in a big way. I could watch horror movies all day long, as long they were about murderers, aliens or even ghosts. But, if there was even a hint of The Quare Fella involved I’d have to give it a skip. Ghost Stories about random meetings with Satan used to unsettle me deeply and I was always deeply frightened by tales of possession. I figured that if such things were real, the fact that I was so freaked out by them made me susceptible to my own bout of head spinning and pea-soup spewing. The Devil and his diabolical ways could smell my fear.

    Crazy stuff. By the time I hit double figures I was beginning to realise that it was all phoney-baloney nonsense. There is one good thing about having to sit through mass week after week as a child: you get to focus on how stupid it all really is. The Devil is a personification of all the evil that lurks in the heart of man and a fairy story drummed into you from a young age to keep you in check and put some fear into you. And it works, but it has no business being told to children to be accepted as fact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭12Phase


    It also demonstrates quite clearly that telling children frightening lies about mythical figures can cause serious psychological issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    He hasn't gone away, you know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Of course I do, same as anyone who's met my ex-girlfriend's Ma.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,782 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    According to John Boehner, former speaker of the house in the US congress, Ted Cruz is "Lucifer in the flesh".

    ...and he probably wears Prada.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Ah all you unbelievers...

    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didn't exist .


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