Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

Muahahaha wrote: »

We had Eddie Hutchs murder in the area only 3 days after the Regency while the whole city (or at least that part of it) was supposed to be on Garda lockdown. Yet still four armed men in a stolen car could drive up the North Strand with virtual impunity, murder Hutch and then leave the area.

Then last night while the Garda are still on high alert and there is supposedly an armed Garda unit on duty around the corner another assassination takes place, again right under their noses and in a pub very well known to Gardai. The getaway vehicle is found in Drumcondra so yet again the hitmen got in and out of an area that had a high level of alert, all in a stolen car and with guns on board.

The prospect of what you are hinting at is truly chilling.

Muahahaha wrote: »

Paul Williams seemed to ask the same questions in his article after the Sunset shooting last night when he wrote

Then last night while the Garda are still on high alert and there is supposedly an armed Garda unit on duty around the corner another assassination takes place, again right under their noses and in a pub very well known to Gardai. The getaway vehicle is found in Drumcondra so yet again the hitmen got in and out of an area that had a high level of alert, all in a stolen car and with guns on board.

The Kinahans are paying off the guards? Well some of them!

Allyall wrote: »

Has anyone a rough idea how much the Kinahans are worth?
Odd question I suppose, but I was told a figure today, and it seem not credible. Massive amount.
I didn't ask for a "link" :P and it wasn't the type of person I wanted to question. I asked where did they hear it but a few others were talking at the same time and it went unheard.
No doubt it would all be guessed, but I mean to the closest €1, €5 or €10 million.

500 mil in property anyway and thats not mentioning the cash they have buried around the place their aim is meant to be to be the first billionaire crime family in ireland

schizo1014 wrote: »

News are reporting a man has been shot and killed in Cork now another one injured

paschal sheehy tweeted that it may have been accidental

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

The prospect of what you are hinting at is truly chilling.

Yeah it is certainly. I'm scratching my head how these murders could have taken place in a highly sensitive area during a time of high alert. Stolen cars with armed occupants just drive into an area, commit a murder and drive back out again.

However it must also be said that the best way (from a policing perspective) to prevent gangland assassinations like Eddie Hutch and Michael Barr is not after shots have been fired, its before. The only way to prevent these killings is to have advance intelligence of them through a network of informants. Clearly the senior Gardai have a deficit of intelligence on what is going on and who is planning what.

Capone79 wrote: »

The Kinahans are paying off the guards? Well some of them!

I think it is a possibility there are a few moles in important positions in the Gardai. I hope it is not true because if there is they are putting the lives of the public and their own Garda colleagues in danger.

But consider it from the Christy Kinahan perspective. While people might argue if Kinahan is worth €90m or €900m what we can all agree on is that it is a huge amount of wealth he is sitting on. Personally I don't believe the €900m figure but I do think it is in the hundreds of millions that he is worth. My reasoning is that the CSO value the Irish narcotics and prostitution trade at €1.25bn, per year, every year. its a huge market and Kinahan is undoubtedly at the top of the narcotics take. Irrespective of whether or not he is a big player in a European sense he is one in an Irish sense and is getting a major slice of a huge drugs market

Prostitution and drugs accounted for €1.258bn to the country’s economic activity last year, according to the Central Statistics Office, which is refusing to divulge how it estimates the economic impact of illegal activity.

The Government has been forced to revise how it accounts for economic activity following a new regulation from the EU Commission requiring all member states to include the ‘black market’ in their final tally.

In the case of Ireland, 2013 nominal GDP increased from €164.1bn to €174.8bn. The narcotics and prostitution trades accounted for €1.258bn of this increase.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/sex-and-drugs-help-add-euro12bn-to-gdp-274271.html

From those figures of a market worth €1.25bn per year, every year, Kinahan is getting his slice, and then some. For me it is not inconceivable that he is worth at least €500m at this stage. So put yourself in his shoes, you have an illegal fortune of €500m and you need to protect your drugs business from its two main threats- the Gardai and other criminal gangs. Why wouldn't you allocate €10m or €20m of that fortune for counter-intelligence purposes? You'd be mad not to IMO.

Capone79 wrote: »

Compared to the Mexican Sinaloa Cartel, El Chapo could buy and sell the Kinahans or use them as errand boys! The Mexican cartels cut people's heads off,chainsaws,Swiss army, butter, any knife really, day in, day out!

I knew a guy called the Mexican once. He nearly took the head off me for slagging his moustache.

Discodog wrote: »

I would be amazed if some senior Guards, Revenue, etc aren't being paid off or being blackmailed. Most historical cases like these involve a degree of corruption. The Gardai are a perfect target as there is no effective body investigating the Guards.

Ireland is rather like the UK was back in the old days. Now, if you make a complaint about an English policeman, you can do so in the knowledge that it will be investigated.

We saw with the "revelations " about Mansfield over the weekend that there is no way in hell you could build up an empire like that without the state turning a blind eye

I think the state would collapse if the true amount of corruption with criminals was known by the public

Muahahaha wrote: »

We had Eddie Hutchs murder in the area only 3 days after the Regency while the whole city (or at least that part of it) was supposed to be on Garda lockdown. Yet still four armed men in a stolen car could drive up the North Strand with virtual impunity, murder Hutch and then leave the area.

Then last night while the Garda are still on high alert and there is supposedly an armed Garda unit on duty around the corner another assassination takes place, again right under their noses and in a pub very well known to Gardai. The getaway vehicle is found in Drumcondra so yet again the hitmen got in and out of an area that had a high level of alert, all in a stolen car and with guns on board.

You make what they did sound difficult. I'd say with a bit smarts and preparation it would actually be quite easy to do and wouldn't take any inside knowledge.

They should post a couple of Gardaí on every route in/out of Drumcondra. It seems to be where every car used in a hit, is found burnt out.

Allyall wrote: »

They should post a couple of Gardaí on every route in/out of Drumcondra. It seems to be where every car used in a hit, is found burnt out.

That is the question. But according to reports, they were there. But what good did it do?

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Are you seriously suggesting that Gardai are sitting around the corner for five or ten minutes before rushing up to a scene of a shooting, because they think they're not paid enough or might be in danger??

Of all the daft theories that have been put out on this thread, that just trumps them all.

Don't think it's that daft Heidi

It's either totally incompetence policing in a tiny area of a city or they are letting things happen

Did I hear correctly that there is soon to be 1,500 new recruits to the Army?

Can someone tell me ( if I have it right of course), why this recruitment is so necessary in comparison to a smaller recruitment for the Gardai?

I just don't get it. But maybe someone will come along and explain it to me.