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There's protein everywhere

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  • #32
    Dodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,291 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    kneemos wrote: »
    So it's what you didn't eat rather than protein,carb whatsit diet that lost your weight.

    But if you don't eat carbs, and don't eat protein, you're hungry. So if you cut out carbs, you need to increase your protein intake

    Protein fills you up, that's why pretty much every nutriotionist in the world advocates eating plenty of lean meat. Add in fresh veg and fruit and you're game ball

    No need for protein bars, shakes and the like


  • #33
    Hercule Poirot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    Genuinely thought this thread was going to be about a romance explosion... very disappointed


  • #34
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,832 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Its big business this protein for Glanbia, their whey sales are now outstripping sales of milk and cheese
    Don't let the mumsy image of its Avonmore branded milk and Kilmeaden cheeses fool you. Kilkenny-based dairy giant Glanbia is a corporate heavyweight slugging it out in the global sports nutrition market - and the gloves are off.
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    The Glanbia story is a triumph of brains and brawn.
    In just over a decade, this former co-operative with deep roots in the Irish dairy industry has transformed itself into a behemoth of the bodybuilding and sports nutrition sector. Today many of its products are the No 1 choice of muscle-heads, elite athletes and professional cage fighters in a market set to be worth a whopping €20bn by 2020.
    Indeed, it's a sign of how far the Irish dairy giant has come since it was formed out of the merger of Avonmore Foods and Waterford Foods in 1997 that when Glanbia's full-year results were published in February, investors paid scant attention to its much-trumpeted new Protein Milk - and instead focused on its plans to flex its muscles in the high margin, high growth sports nutrition sector.
    Glanbia, one of the world's largest producers of cheese, has built a €750m global empire on the by-product of cheese - whey.
    Dubbed the new 'super protein', whey is protein-packed yet fat free - a perfect combination to help build muscle, fitness and endurance. Glanbia is now the world's largest producer of whey protein isolate - the fuel of champions.
    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/glanbia-muscles-in-on-rivals-31134246.html

    Not bad going for an industry that used to throw the whey away after making the cheese. Now its their single most profitable product.

    I used to drink protein shakes after a long cycle. Must say I did find a benefit when it comes to sore muscles, it would just make you feel fresher inside or something.

    Its doesn't have to be all expensive €3 protein bars though- theres an excellent protein bar recipe here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055992322/19


  • #35
    Samaris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Ah sure, pull up some lettuce from the garden and don't bother shaking off the slugs and bugs. There's some good protein for you!


  • #36
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    Protein Mars bars and a diet cokes.....fcuk yeah! being healthy is easy.......


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  • #37
    RWCNT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Dodge wrote: »
    No need for protein bars, shakes and the like

    Unless you like to eat them! Quest bars are delish.


  • #38
    NiallBoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭NiallBoo


    Food is food.

    There's nothing that special about protein bars/shakes, they're just very convenient and cheaper*.

    *unless you're getting fleeced - you shouldn't take the prices you see in Spar etc. as being representative - everything there is overpriced and the protein stuff is no different.


  • #39
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    I reckon in years down the line, all this excessive consumption of protein by many aspiring 'meatheads' etc.. will lead to medical issues, perhaps like early onset of Parkinsons.


    Protein shakes will have a whole new meaning...


  • #40
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    NiallBoo wrote: »
    Food is food.

    There's nothing that special about protein bars/shakes, they're just very convenient and cheaper*.

    *unless you're getting fleeced - you shouldn't take the prices you see in Spar etc. as being representative - everything there is overpriced and the protein stuff is no different.


    Over three quid for a small bar in Supervalue I've noticed.
    No idea what's in them that justifies such a price?


  • #41
    Lavinia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,134 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    those "protein" bars are so full of bloo*y sugar that I'm not going anywhere near them.


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  • #42
    bnt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,244 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I'm trying to lose weight, so I've had to become more aware of protein vs carbohydrates. I'm not going for "no carb", but I am trying to get more of the former and less of the latter.

    I'm also on a budget, and if I walk around a supermarket I notice that (a) all the cheap food is basically all carbohydrate, no protein and (b) reasonable quality sources of protein are expensive. Lidl & Aldi have good cheap canned fish (mackerel, herring etc.) but they come in creamy sauces. So now I'm looking at dried (not canned) beans as a source of cheap protein.

    No wonder poor people tend to put on weight: we simple can't afford to eat healthily all the time. I wish I was a teenager again - I could eat anything and still be healthy.

    Government resting upon the will and universal suffrage of the people has no anchorage except in the people's intelligence.

    — Grover Cleveland



  • #43
    Boom_Bap
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    I drank a Mooju Chocolate Milk this morning that has 'High In Protein' stamped on the carton.
    I bought it for the chocolaty milky goodness.


  • #44
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bnt wrote: »
    I'm trying to lose weight, so I've had to become more aware of protein vs carbohydrates. I'm not going for "no carb", but I am trying to get more of the former and less of the latter.

    I'm also on a budget, and if I walk around a supermarket I notice that (a) all the cheap food is basically all carbohydrate, no protein and (b) reasonable quality sources of protein are expensive. Lidl & Aldi have good cheap canned fish (mackerel, herring etc.) but they come in creamy sauces. So now I'm looking at dried (not canned) beans as a source of cheap protein.

    No wonder poor people tend to put on weight: we simple can't afford to eat healthily all the time. I wish I was a teenager again - I could eat anything and still be healthy.

    While I think the protein thing is a fad, it not true to say good sources of protein are expensive, what about eggs, tuna beans etc.


  • #45
    elefant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭elefant


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    I reckon in years down the line, all this excessive consumption of protein by many aspiring 'meatheads' etc.. will lead to medical issues, perhaps like early onset of Parkinsons.


    Protein shakes will have a whole new meaning...

    What is this based on?


  • #46
    Lavinia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,134 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    bnt wrote: »
    I'm trying to lose weight, so I've had to become more aware of protein vs carbohydrates. I'm not going for "no carb", but I am trying to get more of the former and less of the latter.

    I'm also on a budget, and if I walk around a supermarket I notice that (a) all the cheap food is basically all carbohydrate, no protein and (b) reasonable quality sources of protein are expensive. Lidl & Aldi have good cheap canned fish (mackerel, herring etc.) but they come in creamy sauces. So now I'm looking at dried (not canned) beans as a source of cheap protein.

    No wonder poor people tend to put on weight: we simple can't afford to eat healthily all the time. I wish I was a teenager again - I could eat anything and still be healthy.
    Just eat plenty of veggies beans and nuts and you'll have more than enough protein.
    All this hype about how we will all die if we do not eat "enough" protein is just marketing, you will have more than enough protein if you just eat right, our real needs for it are actually really small.

    Do a research on it to educate yourself and not fall for all the media shi*e.
    eg
    https://www.google.ie/search?q=real+rotein+needs&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=ofcdV6mLC4ensgHi74H4Dw#q=real+protein+needs


  • #47
    Sky King
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    People have this constant need to look for shortcuts and the quick fix. If it's not crossfit, it's MPX or 'Zoo' (wtf?) or fking Tough Mudder or some bullsh!t like that. And now instead of eating fking food you have to ingest a protein shake at a specific time to get max gainz dude.

    Unless you are in the the 0.1% of elite athletes that actually need this sh!t just do some exercise regularly and eat reasonably healthily and stop being such a fuc kin cu nt.

    Sorry. I mean protein snacks are great and I highly recommend them.


  • #48
    rhabarbarum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 ✭rhabarbarum


    Eh, another trend. Probably came in to replace gluten-free everything.


  • #49
    siblers
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    KungPao wrote: »
    And 'gluten free'. I was eating a pack of corn snacks recently and it proclaimed with gusto that it had no gluten. Well yeah, it's made from corn. But with non-coeliac idiots buying these "no gluten" products for no reason, why not jump on the wagon to shift more units?

    They advertise like that for Coeliacs or for people with gluten intolerance not for hipsters who think GF is the way to go, people who are Coeliac need to be 100% sure that food is GF, foods that are naturally gluten free can easily be cross contaminated in the manufacturing process or can contain additional ingredients that contain wheat. It makes life so much easier if it's advertised as being GF.


  • #50
    FizzleSticks
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  • #51
    smash
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    Did anyone see that recent report about the uk government wanting to brand things as "occasional food". A jar of dolmio has the equivalent of 7 tea spoons of sugar!


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  • #52
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,667 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Its big business this protein for Glanbia, their whey sales are now outstripping sales of milk and cheese


    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/glanbia-muscles-in-on-rivals-31134246.html

    Not bad going for an industry that used to throw the whey away after making the cheese. Now its their single most profitable product.

    I used to drink protein shakes after a long cycle. Must say I did find a benefit when it comes to sore muscles, it would just make you feel fresher inside or something.

    Its doesn't have to be all expensive €3 protein bars though- theres an excellent protein bar recipe here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055992322/19

    Up until about15 years ago most of the whey produced was used to feed intensively reared pigs


  • #53
    listermint
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    smash wrote: »
    Did anyone see that recent report about the uk government wanting to brand things as "occasional food". A jar of dolmio has the equivalent of 7 tea spoons of sugar!

    daily limit should be about 8.5 or so. So people are literally murdering their sugar intake.


  • #54
    NiallBoo
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Over three quid for a small bar in Supervalue I've noticed.
    No idea what's in them that justifies such a price?

    As I said; getting fleeced.
    Supervalu is a rip-off in general.

    Marketing and convenience also play a large part. Bars cost more than powder, but you don't have to mix them and you can leave them in your bag for a year and eat them one day when you forgot your lunch. Similarly cooked chicken costs more than raw chicken.
    Protein stuff also keeps, so you can order in bulk to reduce the price.

    I decided to do a quick price comparison on protein sources. I'm giving prices per 100g of protein.
    (eg. raw chicken breast costs 89c per 100g, and contains ~23g of protein - so raw chicken costs €3.86 per 100g of protein).

    Raw chicken: €3.86/100g protein
    Cooked chicken: €5.98/100g protein
    Ready-to-drink protein skake: €7.72/100g protein
    Protein bars: €6.41/100g protein
    Protein powder: €1.13/100g protein

    The last line speaks for itself.

    Note: I got the protein prices off bulkpowders.ie and fitnessireland.ie. Chicken prices were from Tesco and a price-comparison website (I'm sure that someone will find better prices for these somewhere).


  • #55
    RWCNT
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    Sky King wrote: »
    People have this constant need to look for shortcuts and the quick fix. If it's not crossfit, it's MPX or 'Zoo' (wtf?) or fking Tough Mudder or some bullsh!t like that.

    How is Crossfit or Tough Mudder a short-cut or a quick-fix?

    I have no idea what MPX (TRX?) or Zoo are, so can't comment.


  • #56
    Hercule Poirot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    listermint wrote: »
    daily limit should be about 8.5 or so. So people are literally murdering their sugar intake.

    Wasn't there something about salt as well? That people consume three times the daily requirement of salt, and that's before it is added as a condiment


  • #57
    Hercule Poirot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    RWCNT wrote: »
    How is Crossfit or Tough Mudder a short-cut or a quick-fix?

    I have no idea what MPX (TRX?) or Zoo are, so can't comment.

    Zoo is the easiest of the quick fixes - week 1 you "become" a flamingo by breaking into a zoo, bedding in with the flamingos and following their daily routines/exercises/diets, week 2 you "become" a lion, and then all your problems are over......


  • #58
    Tiddlypeeps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    When I'm trying to lose weight I have a protein shake most days. Protein is really filling and I have a hard time increasing other sources of it without also increasing fats and/or carbs, not cheaply anyway. A shake for lunch will have me about as full as the sandwich I would have normally ate. The shake is about 200 calories, but the bread alone in a sandwich is about 200 calories and easily another 200/300 for filling.

    So if I'm trying to lose weight and I can cut my calorie intake from a meal down by more than half cheaply, conveniently and in a way that is actually filling then I don't see any reason not to.


  • #59
    bkqwerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 ✭bkqwerty


    Think I remember seeing something before about those protein bars not being classed as food products and so have a much higher rate of VAT which partially contributes to the high price. Still don't think it justifies them often being up around €3 though


  • #60
    kylith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    bnt wrote: »
    I'm trying to lose weight, so I've had to become more aware of protein vs carbohydrates. I'm not going for "no carb", but I am trying to get more of the former and less of the latter.

    I'm also on a budget, and if I walk around a supermarket I notice that (a) all the cheap food is basically all carbohydrate, no protein and (b) reasonable quality sources of protein are expensive. Lidl & Aldi have good cheap canned fish (mackerel, herring etc.) but they come in creamy sauces. So now I'm looking at dried (not canned) beans as a source of cheap protein.

    No wonder poor people tend to put on weight: we simple can't afford to eat healthily all the time. I wish I was a teenager again - I could eat anything and still be healthy.
    Both Lidl and Tesco do a range of tinned fish in oil. Eggs are also very cheap. Go to a proper butcher and get some of the less popular cuts.

    A good sized ham hock will cost about €2.50 and will feed 3 people. Offal is full of protein and nutrients and is really, really cheap. Cook them slowly and they're wonderful.


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  • #61
    bkqwerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 ✭bkqwerty


    Hard to beat eggs and tuna as very cheap protein sources.In both cases €1 would buy you about 25g of protein


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