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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Can someone explain to me why the press tour is anymore difficult for him than Nate??

    Might have something to do with the hundreds of interviews he's given in the past year with these press tours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,545 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Can someone explain to me why the press tour is anymore difficult for him than Nate??

    McGregor trains in Dublin. The entire press tour takes place in North America. Dublin is a long way from North America, meaning jet lag and disrupted training patterns for McGregor. Diaz lives in North America, and in close proximity to the location of two of those scheduled press conferences. That means no jet lag for Diaz and very little disruption to his training camp.

    Also, McGregor has done a thousand times more media work than Nate in the past few years, that shît takes a toll.

    EDIT: TL;DR version: what Depp said. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,328 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,764 ✭✭✭ASOT




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Can he not move his camp to america for a few months?
    Amir khans been doing his training camps in america for years with roach and Virgil hunter as an example I don't see how training in america for a few months is a problem when your guaranteed millions win lose draw does he want the ufc to move to Ireland is it?

    I just feel its a complete toys out of the pram situation. Ufc are asking of him no more than they are of Nate.
    How is he even suppose to act in front of media now since the loss he can't go on like he was?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    You don't see this crazy media bs happening in boxing during the training build up to a fight.
    Imo it's crazy to interrupt training, if need be it should be done in house. Ie let the media go to them, some build up hype before the training starts.
    And a few during training, on site. Ufc have a long way to go to catch up in terms of respect of the sportspeople that are involved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    He has trained in America before, smoke and mirrors is also a possibility. Strong enough one really the more you think of it, anyway, if that tweet was tonight(?) it appears his stance has not changed, and the bravado still works too.

    #yourmove is a bit odd though, they have made their move by removing him from the card.

    It is now surely his move as to when he is going to fight next (New York obv choice) and defend his title against one of Aldo or Edgar

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    martyos121 wrote: »
    Letree wrote: »
    I'm beginning to think this is all staged. They both wanted the mcgregor - diaz fight pulled. Its too risky a fight for conor to get beat twice by a journeyman.

    Nate Diaz a journeyman?

    Can't even bring myself to laugh at that, it's just too ridiculous.
    Let's be honest though, I like Diaz but he's a top 10, possibly top 5 lightweight where Conor said he'd win the belt. It takes the gloss off Conor, it's not the same as losing to RDA or Lawler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    Ufc are asking of him no more than they are of Nate.

    They are actually, they're asking him to interrupt his camp, travel all across the atlantic, do ridiculous amounts of travel and media, and then he has to make his way back to Iceland or Dublin. That severely fcuks up his camp, especially since he's only about two weeks into it at this stage. As one of the other posters stated, Diaz is relatively close to the places for the media tour so he has much less interruptions to his camp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Deadst4r


    shocksy wrote: »
    They are actually, they're asking him to interrupt his camp, travel all across the atlantic, do ridiculous amounts of travel and media, and then he has to make his way back to Iceland or Dublin. That severely fcuks up his camp, especially since he's only about two weeks into it at this stage. As one of the other posters stated, Diaz is relatively close to the places for the media tour so he has much less interruptions to his camp.

    Also they were basically hanging him out to dry in Stockton.

    Which is fine because he's a grown man and has a fair amount of confidence. But it would still be pretty draining.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,545 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    One phonecall to Tom Lawlor and this entire mess could be sorted out.

    Nobody will know the difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    shocksy wrote: »
    They are actually, they're asking him to interrupt his camp, travel all across the atlantic, do rediculous amounts of travel and press, and then he has to make his way back to Iceland or Dublin, that severely fcuks up his camp especially since he's only about two weeks into it at this stage. As one of the other posters stated, Diaz is relatively close to the places for the media tour so he has much less interruptions to his camp.

    He has trained in America before.
    He is in camp with Gunni right now, it isn't really his own training camp at the moment in all honesty.
    Diaz being close to the places on the media tour (he isn't, he is in California, which for example is pretty far away from New York) Stockon is about 4500kms from New York, Ireland is about 4900kms from new york..... not exactly worlds apart in terms of distance.
    It has never bothered McGregor before nor has he looked to use it as an excuse before.
    Aldo and others have had to travel and do tours promoting when they would rather not.
    He has demanded this kind of exposure.
    He gets paid the big bucks due to this kind of promotional work.
    If he doesn't want to do it anymore, fine, just don't agree to it. Work out a deal that suits you more when the negotiations are actually taking place.
    You can't shake the feeling its about money, even in his opening gambit of his statement. " I am paid to fight" " I am not paid to promote, yet" alludes to if he was being paid more he would be more willing to do this.


    Leaving all that aside, it sucks that he won't be part of the spectacle, and it will not be as special an event without him. However, life goes on, both Conor and the UFC will continue in their business relationship racking in the $$$ and this will be smoothed over and made light of in future interviews.

    I am interested to see what they do for the main event now, I am delighted a feckin grudge match between two light weights at welterweight with no belt on the line and where there was such a comprehensive victory for one fighter is not going to be headlining what they want to be such a prestigious event, but they do have a big gap to fill in terms of star power. Jones would be a welcome addition, Lawlor v Diaz maybe, Diaz v GSP could be fun, Lawlor v GSP would be better :)

    I hope Nate is kept on the card anyway, even if he drops from ME as he deserves it.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Deadst4r wrote: »
    Also they were basically hanging him out to dry in Stockton.

    Which is fine because he's a grown man and has a fair amount of confidence. But it would still be pretty draining.

    Hanging him out to dry in Stockton?

    Explain.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    The promotion he's so fed up of is also part of what what has got him the big place media wise he has in the sport. It hasn't been just his tweets or Facebook posts that he seems to make out it is. Boxers and fighters have had to do it for years and a lot of his extra promotion is because of the 'character' he moulded himself into, the one that parts of the media like covering.

    I have a lot of respect for McGregor and what he's achieved but I really don't think much of his 'statement', it just seemed a lot of mini excuses of why he lost to Diaz. Hopefully he moves away from silly bull**** like this and channels his typing's into just getting back fighting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭Thelomen Toblackai


    shocksy wrote: »
    They are actually, they're asking him to interrupt his camp, travel all across the atlantic, do ridiculous amounts of travel and media, and then he has to make his way back to Iceland or Dublin. That severely fcuks up his camp, especially since he's only about two weeks into it at this stage. As one of the other posters stated, Diaz is relatively close to the places for the media tour so he has much less interruptions to his camp.

    Didn't seem to be an issue for Diaz taking the fight on 10 days notice without a fight camp at all while McGregor mouthed off about people not willing to fight.

    Now he's throwing a little tantrum over his training being disrupted to promote a fight he signed up for knowing any promotional duties would mean travelling to the US. If travel was an issue he should have trained in the US. He was never not going to need to travel to promote while also training.

    To use his own words he either wants to the fight to happen or he doesn't. If he does he should just get on with things if not man up and walk away instead of posting tweets about retiring like a child throwing a strop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Deadst4r


    Hanging him out to dry in Stockton?

    Explain.

    He did Brazil with Aldo, Aldo did Ireland, fair enough.

    Nate isn't coming to Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    Diaz being close to the places on the media tour (he isn't, he is in California, which for example is pretty far away from New York) Stockon is about 4500kms from New York, Ireland is about 4900kms from new york..... not

    They wanted him in Vegas this week, That's a hell of a lot further for Conor to travel, than Diaz just from California. Conor said he would do the NY media tour but not the rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    Didn't seem to be an issue for Diaz taking the fight on 10 days notice without a fight camp at all while McGregor mouthed off about people not willing to fight.

    Now he's throwing a little tantrum over his training being disrupted to promote a fight he signed up for knowing any promotional duties would mean travelling to the US. If travel was an issue he should have trained in the US. He was never not going to need to travel to promote while also training.

    To use his own words he either wants to the fight to happen or he doesn't. If he does he should just get on with things if not man up and walk away instead of posting tweets about retiring like a child throwing a strop.

    Some of his previous fights he was actually residing in the US doing a lot of camp there, so he didn't have the jetlag to deal with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    shocksy wrote: »
    They wanted him in Vegas this week, That's a hell of a lot further for Conor to travel, than Diaz just from California. Conor said he would do the NY media tour but not the rest.


    Why does he choose to set up camp 8+ hours on a plane away from his media obligations?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,385 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Letree wrote: »
    He has never won a title and has 10 loses. He is a journeyman.
    I'd be fairly confidant that 6 months ago you had no clue who Nathan Donald Diaz was.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    Why does he choose to set up camp 8+ hours on a plane away from his media obligations?

    He's quite entitled to set up camp where he wants. It's not his fault UFC is based in the US. Obviously he's going to do a lot of his training in Ireland. As for all the talk on why he didn't negotiate this during the contracts only Conor can explain that one. I'm just stating the facts as they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Deadst4r wrote: »
    He did Brazil with Aldo, Aldo did Ireland, fair enough.

    Nate isn't coming to Ireland.

    Out of interest, did he go to Germany for Siver? Brazil for Brandao?

    I still don't see how they are hanging him out to dry in Stockton. If anything he would enjoy it! He feeds off that energy :)

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    shocksy wrote: »
    They wanted him in Vegas this week, That's a hell of a lot further for Conor to travel, than Diaz just from California. Conor said he would do the NY media tour but not the rest.

    He can't pick and choose what media obligations he will fulfill though, and it isn't really Nate's fault that he happens to live in the country the sport is based mainly, all the big events anyway.

    Conor has always said it is possible to stay in your home gym and be the best, reach the top of the game etc, says he is living proof you don't have to leave and go to America to be successful. If he now thinks you do, then he should surely relocate their for a few years.

    He chooses to live so far away from the UFC powerbase, he can't demand special treatment for that at the same time. He has stayed in the US before for training camp so why couldn't he do it this time? As I said he is in camp with Gunni now for the fight he has upcoming, its not like its even his fight camp yet really.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Deadst4r


    He can't pick and choose what media obligations he will fulfill though, and it isn't really Nate's fault that he happens to live in the country the sport is based mainly, all the big events anyway.

    Conor has always said it is possible to stay in your home gym and be the best, reach the top of the game etc, says he is living proof you don't have to leave and go to America to be successful. If he now thinks you do, then he should surely relocate their for a few years.

    He chooses to live so far away from the UFC powerbase, he can't demand special treatment for that at the same time. He has stayed in the US before for training camp so why couldn't he do it this time? As I said he is in camp with Gunni now for the fight he has upcoming, its not like its even his fight camp yet really.

    How is he not in camp?

    They both prepared together for 189, they were both 'in camp'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    He chooses to live so far away from the UFC powerbase, he can't demand special treatment for that at the same time. He has stayed in the US before for training camp so why couldn't he do it this time? As I said he is in camp with Gunni now for the fight he has upcoming, its not like its even his fight camp yet really.

    I agree, but Conor has always spoke about how he prefers to train in Ireland in our conditions, no humidity or desert air etc. Home is home for him and that's his choice at the end of the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Deadst4r wrote: »
    How is he not in camp?

    They both prepared together for 189, they were both 'in camp'.

    I didn't say he wasn't in camp, I said it wasn't his camp. It's Gunni's for his fight against Tumenov.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    shocksy wrote: »
    He's quite entitled to set up camp where he wants. It's not his fault UFC is based in the US. Obviously he's going to do a lot of his training in Ireland. As for all the talk on why he didn't negotiate this during the contracts only Conor can explain that one. I'm just stating the facts as they are.

    He's an employee, the tail doesn't wag the dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    My god these Trolls have little to be doing other than visiting a forum about a guy they don't even like :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    shocksy wrote: »
    He's quite entitled to set up camp where he wants. It's not his fault UFC is based in the US. Obviously he's going to do a lot of his training in Ireland. As for all the talk on why he didn't negotiate this during the contracts only Conor can explain that one. I'm just stating the facts as they are.

    And its the ufc fault that Conor is from Ireland?
    No matter how saturated the rose tinted glasses are this is conors fault he could set up camp anywhere. He can't expect an american company to move to Ireland for him.
    We all love him and I'm proud of his achievements but if it was Nate doing this you'd be lighting him up with all type of claims and abuse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,341 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    shocksy wrote: »
    My god these Trolls have little to be doing other than visiting a forum about a guy they don't even like :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Who?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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