Off Topic Thread V2.0

Redfox25 · 06-04-2016 12:02PM

It will be interesting in any case to see the AMD vs Nvidea war continue. It would be great for all if AMD did pull a master stroke as it would force Nvidea to compete again as opposed to leading the pack and possibly being a bit lazy at times.

Solitaire · 06-04-2016 10:57PM

AFAIK both Polaris and Pascal are using GDDR5; next winter's Vega and Pascal+ (GP100) will both be using HBM2.

Xenoronin · 07-04-2016 11:01AM

I have to admit that the numbers for GDDR5X are impressive. For an intermediate technology the performance leap is decent.

frozenfrozen · 10-04-2016 01:51PM

anyone have experience with qc or ES intel chips? could be a good upgrade path for me to go from a 3930k to a xeon 2697v2 or something for not a huge amount of money, if I could find one

They're not meant to be sold but I've seen a good few ES chips for sale on ebay at decent prices.

ED E · 10-04-2016 01:56PM

Oh, thats a thing? Interesting....

frozenfrozen · 10-04-2016 02:18PM

yep ES are engineering sample and QC is quality control. QC are exactly the same chip as what is going to be shipped as retail. ES could be anything from the earliest model to just before the QC stage so the sellers will post benchmarks or the chip showing in cpuz to make sure all the cores are active.

There must be someone or some institution in Ireland who gets several of each for testing or whatever, would be nice if we could find them and coax a few from them

EG: http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Intel-Xeon-E5-2697-v4-ES-Broadwell-EP-CPU-2-2GHz-18-Core-145W-Beats-E5-2698-v3-/351703419385?hash=item51e32849f9:g:1RQAAOSwz2lXCKdp

2697v4 engineering sample, $700, will retail for $2700

and they have tonnes for sale. There must be a massive amount of all previous CPUs out there too, of which I'd like a 2697v2 to go in my x79 board

and look at 44 thread 2699v4 scoring 30 points in cinebench for 1500 euro. http://www.ebay.ie/itm/INTEL-XEON-E5-2699-V4-ES-22-CORE-55M-2-4ghz-2-8Ghz-V4-/281997656880?hash=item41a85ec330:g:6kEAAOSwjMJXCGFg

SickBoy · 10-04-2016 02:58PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

There must be a massive amount of all previous CPUs out there too, of which I'd like a 2697v2 to go in my x79 board

and look at 44 thread 2699v4 scoring 30 points in cinebench for 1500 euro. http://www.ebay.ie/itm/INTEL-XEON-E5-2699-V4-ES-22-CORE-55M-2-4ghz-2-8Ghz-V4-/281997656880?hash=item41a85ec330:g:6kEAAOSwjMJXCGFg

I wouldn't mind throwing a few extra cores at my VMs if the price was right. x79 here also so v2 is the max supported xeon.

ED E · 10-04-2016 03:05PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

yep ES are engineering sample and QC is quality control. QC are exactly the same chip as what is going to be shipped as retail. ES could be anything from the earliest model to just before the QC stage so the sellers will post benchmarks or the chip showing in cpuz to make sure all the cores are active.

I deduced as much

Just didnt know there were enough going to find them for resale.

My pre-build spreadsheets gonna get a lot bigger now.

TerrorFirmer · 11-04-2016 10:20AM

Well, Dabs have wound up operations.

Slightly concerned now about my €500 monitor....

Redfox25 · 11-04-2016 10:26AM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Well, Dabs have wound up operations.

Slightly concerned now about my €500 monitor....

Did you pay by CC/paypal?

If you did then you will likely be covered, did they acknowledge that sending you the printer was in fact a mistake though?

roast · 11-04-2016 10:39AM

Apparently you'll still be able to login to an existing account to manage past orders/returns etc.

Wright · 12-04-2016 12:42PM

Redfox25 wrote: »

It will be interesting in any case to see the AMD vs Nvidea war continue. It would be great for all if AMD did pull a master stroke as it would force Nvidea to compete again as opposed to leading the pack and possibly being a bit lazy at times.

Not really, brand loyalty needs to gtfo at this point.

Have you missed Freesync/HBM/DirectX12 numbers/AMD open sourcing their code etc.? AMD have been pulling out ahead for about a year. It's what made me finally try them out. Decently happy with my 380X.

Cuddlesworth · 12-04-2016 12:49PM

Wright wrote: »

Not really, brand loyalty needs to gtfo at this point.

Have you missed Freesync/HBM/DirectX12 numbers/AMD open sourcing their code etc.? AMD have been pulling out ahead for about a year. It's what made me finally try them out. Decently happy with my 380X.

I've always bought AMD since they have always been the best upper-mid range value, which is always the best price point to buy at(specific needs aside). But Nvidia are winning because of the underhanded tatics, so why would they stop?

Wright · 12-04-2016 01:10PM

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

I've always bought AMD since they have always been the best upper-mid range value, which is always the best price point to buy at(specific needs aside). But Nvidia are winning because of the underhanded tatics, so why would they stop?

Oh they've doubled down on the sleaze alright, mostly why I made the jump, but it has been noticed. As has AMD's 'good guy' marketing concept. As have AMD's DX12/Vulkan numbers. The tide is changing I feel. Not sure AMD will ever get over Intel's/nVidia's anti competite shenanigans but they've done a whole lot of clawing back in the last 2 years. While nVidia's been off flirting with car manufacturers.

I think Zen is their last stab at desktop cpu's, if that still doesn't do the trick they should stop wasting engineers on that space IMO , but their APU's, dGPU's, laptop presence and of course their console contracts have kept them above the water long enough and now it's just about to pay off (in the dGPU space anyhow). The only thing that'll save the Zen IMO is if games start multi-threading out the ass, which would be a surprising outcome honestly.

But what do I know; Steam says the 970 is the most popular GPU out there and that thing is critically flawed from a vram perspective. (Another reason I jumped). People are hard to understand.

Redfox25 · 12-04-2016 04:08PM

Wright wrote: »

Not really, brand loyalty needs to gtfo at this point.

Have you missed Freesync/HBM/DirectX12 numbers/AMD open sourcing their code etc.? AMD have been pulling out ahead for about a year. It's what made me finally try them out. Decently happy with my 380X.

Havent missed it but as you pointed out yourself, AMD are being outsold by Nvidea by a massive chunk.
I have had 3 AMD cards now and probably wont buy a Nvidea one, especially since I bought a freesync monitor.

I would love to see them dominate the nvidea boys for a while, competition is good for users after all.

glynf · 12-04-2016 05:33PM

Quick question lads, My PC's clock is losing time-as in wrong time, date & time zone every time I power it back up. Am I right in thinking its most likley the CMOS battery? I upgraded it to Windows 10 three weeks ago, probably unrelated but worth asking first as I have to take the motherboard out to change out the damn battery.

Gumbi · 12-04-2016 07:30PM

glynf wrote: »

Quick question lads, My PC's clock is losing time-as in wrong time, date & time zone every time I power it back up. Am I right in thinking its most likley the CMOS battery? I upgraded it to Windows 10 three weeks ago, probably unrelated but worth asking first as I have to take the motherboard out to change out the damn battery.

I had the same issue! The clock was going out of sync andmy skype msgs kept gtting screwed up.

I thiiink it has to do with how Windows 10 controls sleep mode, as a restart usually sorted it.

ED E · 12-04-2016 08:35PM

glynf wrote: »

Quick question lads, My PC's clock is losing time-as in wrong time, date & time zone every time I power it back up. Am I right in thinking its most likley the CMOS battery? I upgraded it to Windows 10 three weeks ago, probably unrelated but worth asking first as I have to take the motherboard out to change out the damn battery.

Yep, nine times in ten thats it.

glynf · 12-04-2016 08:38PM

Sleep disabled, and Power Management and saving settings are off in the BIOS, still happening so I changed the battery and all looks OK so far. Pain in the hole though, had to remove the GPU's, the the mobo from the case,the AIO, then remove the plastic & metal 'armour'; then put it all back togeather. So nearly 2 hours to change a battery.

Gave the old girl a good cleaning while I was at it so not a complete waste of time, and the CPU now idles at 30 deg C. down a goos 6-7 deg. on average.

ED E · 12-04-2016 11:37PM

Ahh thats a nightmare job, you'd think ASUS would have thought to include an easy access hatch or push release holder for the battery even if its a rare maintenance task.

Cuddlesworth · 13-04-2016 09:01AM

ED E wrote: »

Ahh thats a nightmare job, you'd think ASUS would have thought to include an easy access hatch or push release holder for the battery even if its a rare maintenance task.

In 5 years supporting 4 thousand machines aged between 1-4 years, I can think of 2 instances of replacing a dead CMOS battery. I'm surprised it isn't harder to get to.

glynf · 13-04-2016 09:52AM

A hatch would be ideal, and the new battery seems to have cured the issue. Must stick a multimeter on it later to see what voltage it was putting out, but I am suprised it went-the motherboard is less than 18 months old. I do tend to power it down more often than most, as I can be away for a bit with work which maybe a contributing factor.

TerrorFirmer · 13-04-2016 10:13AM

God, that's horrific! Very unfortunate as well. I've only ever had to replace 2 cmos batteries in my life and they were old machines!

deejer · 13-04-2016 12:12PM

glynf wrote: »

Sleep disabled, and Power Management and saving settings are off in the BIOS, still happening so I changed the battery and all looks OK so far. Pain in the hole though, had to remove the GPU's, the the mobo from the case,the AIO, then remove the plastic & metal 'armour'; then put it all back togeather. So nearly 2 hours to change a battery.

Gave the old girl a good cleaning while I was at it so not a complete waste of time, and the CPU now idles at 30 deg C. down a goos 6-7 deg. on average.

Thats what you get with your fancy motherboards! Wouldn't have that hassle with a nice simple P67 Asrock mb

Solitaire · 13-04-2016 02:01PM

I've noticed since the recession started that CR2025/32s have become both more common and much, much shorter-lived - its affecting some watches as well as mobos

Thor · 13-04-2016 02:14PM

Does anyone know where I could source a U4 case that will take a SSI EEB motherboard and have decent amount of hard drive spaces. Order one, but turns out it's out of stock and juts can't find anywhere that has one in stock and can ship today/tomorrow.

Tried the usual places/ (OCUK, ServercaseUK, Amazon etc..)

Wright · 13-04-2016 02:34PM

Solitaire wrote: »

I've noticed since the recession started that CR2025/32s have become both more common and much, much shorter-lived - its affecting some watches as well as mobos

Batteries going have as much to do with chemtrails as they do the recession. :pac:

pleasant Co. · 13-04-2016 03:40PM

Wright wrote: »

Batteries going have as much to do with chemtrails as they do the recession. :pac:

Cost cutting and recession go hand in hand, it's certainly not an absurd observation.

Wright · 13-04-2016 04:01PM

pleasant Co. wrote: »

Cost cutting and recession go hand in hand, it's certainly not an absurd observation.

Except batteries cost nowt to make to begin with; it's a decently absurd observation.

pleasant Co. · 13-04-2016 04:41PM

Wright wrote: »

Except batteries cost nowt to make to begin with; it's a decently absurd observation.

There's this thing called the economies of scale. You buy one little battery and the cost is minimal, buy millions of them and just watch those zeros accumulate, buy millions of an inferior and cheaper product and you can soften that blow. That's hardly comparable to the conspiracy theory you implied earlier.

Off Topic Thread V2.0

Comments