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Proposed New Runway.

  • 07-04-2016 05:14PM
    #1
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭


    No doubt I'm missing something but from what I hear on the wireless the new runway will cost 320 million and require 12 hundred to build.

    I appreciate land may be expensive but surely it's just a glorified roadway,where's the hundreds of millions going.
    Also 12 hundred to build the thing??


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  • #2
    mahoganygas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mahoganygas


    + car parks
    + hanagrs
    + Gate buildings
    + duty free buildings
    + maintenance buildings
    + car parks
    + Expanded ATC
    + Extra security

    I also wouldn't fancy landing a 500 ton 747 on a 'glorified roadway'.


  • #3
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    320m to build, but how much will it make in added revenue?


  • #4
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,871 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Deleted User wrote: »
    320m to build, but how much will it make in added revenue?

    More than that.


  • #5
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Do they also have to purchase the land too or do they already have this?


  • #6
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,956 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    mahoganygas wrote: »
    + car parks
    + hanagrs
    + Gate buildings
    + duty free buildings
    + maintenance buildings
    + car parks
    + Expanded ATC
    + Extra security

    I also wouldn't fancy landing a 500 ton 747 on a 'glorified roadway'.

    Don't agree with this at all. The cost is for a new runway.

    All the new infrastructure you are talking about is already there with the new terminal 2.


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  • #7
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    In my opinion op doesn't have a clue, but what do I know?


  • #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If I run fast enough down the new runway, with my arms flapping, will I eventually take off?


  • #9
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Do they also have to purchase the land too or do they already have this?

    They already have it I assume as they have planning permission since 2007 (though not all the concessions they want), they wont build it unless they get what they want - likes of operating hours outside of 7am - 11pm, only 65 flights per day on it etc

    I thought planning only lasted 5 years but apparently they have 10 year planning?


  • #10
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,832 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    I presume they have the land, they own an awful lot outside the perimeter AFAIK.

    €320m does sound an awful lot. Motorways here cost around €8m per km and I'd imagine the runway needs to be 3km in length with a 3km taxiway alongside it. Maybe 10km in total all up? I know motorways are not directly comparable but surely the physical runway could be built for €100m and then perhaps double that for all the lighting, new radars, etc

    I haven't read anything that says the €320m figure includes new terminals or a new air traffic control. All they mention is the €320m new runway. The articles on it aren't very clear of what exactly the €320m will get


  • #11
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    kneemos wrote: »
    No doubt I'm missing something but from what I hear on the wireless the new runway will cost 320 million and require 12 hundred to build.

    I appreciate land may be expensive but surely it's just a glorified roadway,where's the hundreds of millions going.
    Also 12 hundred to build the thing??

    12 hundred what?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #12
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    12 hundred what?

    Yen


  • #13
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Yen

    The first post doesn't make sense 320 million cost and 12 hundred x

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #14
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    12 hundred what?
    People I think.

    Hardly euros :pac:


  • #15
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    On the Matt Cooper show now, that CEO of Dublin Airport sounds like a right, (s)nob


  • #16
    Birneybau
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,450 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Where's that question thread again?


  • #17
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,417 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    The first post doesn't make sense 320 million cost and 12 hundred x

    Jobs;)


  • #18
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    The first post doesn't make sense 320 million cost and 12 hundred x


    Humans.


  • #19
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    There must be some ancillary stuff included,no way it would take 12 hundred to build a runway


  • #20
    Mesrine65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,949 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Jaysus the traveller lads will tarmacadam the lot for a fraction of the cost :D


  • #21
    maudgonner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    Jaysus the traveller lads will tarmacadam the lot for a fraction of the cost :D

    And sort out a hape of new gates for the departure area.


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  • #22
    frozenfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    they'd be iron gates.. which went missing from the house down the road the previous week


  • #23
    artanevilla
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,673 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Runways are built to a much higher standard than road. There's lots of radio equipment to be added in for landing guidance etc.

    Surveying needs to be exact as well, you can't be off by a couple of inches when it comes to aircraft.

    Lights, drainage, certification etc....


  • #24
    Goat Paddock
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 84 ✭✭Goat Paddock


    Just read through this please and then you can question the costs:

    http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC-150-5370-10G-updated-201507.pdf


  • #25
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Goat Paddock wrote: »
    Just read through this please and then you can question the costs:

    http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC-150-5370-10G-updated-201507.pdf



    All 662 pages?
    I know they need stuff to build it,just wondering how it costs 320 million.


  • #26
    readytosnap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,329 ✭✭✭readytosnap


    Yosser cud do dat.


  • #27
    melekalikimaka
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    kneemos wrote: »
    All 662 pages?
    I know they need stuff to build it,just wondering how it costs 320 million.

    you asked a question, he gave you the answer. Read and thou shall be enlightened


  • #28
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,486 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    kneemos wrote: »
    All 662 pages?
    I know they need stuff to build it,just wondering how it costs 320 million.

    Bargain compared to the estimated £19 billion (no, that's not a typo) that it'll cost to build the new runway in Heathrow

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-19570653


  • #29
    Oasis1974
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Oasis1974


    artanevilla wrote: »
    Runways are built to a much higher standard than road. There's lots of radio equipment to be added in for landing guidance etc.

    Surveying needs to be exact as well, you can't be off by a couple of inches when it comes to aircraft.

    Lights, drainage, certification etc....
    Would never have known that....No potholes likely then?


  • #30
    bigroad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭bigroad


    600million for terminal 2
    320million for a new runway.
    A big shed and a wide road 3km in length with extra hardcore total bill 920 million.
    That's the DAA skys the limit,why because they can.


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  • #31
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    Bargain compared to the estimated £19 billion (no, that's not a typo) that it'll cost to build the new runway in Heathrow

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-19570653


    The construction will provide 60,000 jobs.

    There's obviously more going on with these things than just a runway.


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