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The employees who haaaaatttteeete their jobs!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭maximo31


    Up to my contract ending Friday, i worked in a call centre for a bank. If im being honest, i was never cut out for it in the long term but looking back at the good and bad days i wouldn't change a thing overall. I've made amazing friends who gave me a great send off and i gained a 18 months of experience in a dynamic office environment (and boy was it dynamic).

    Last place i worked was a medical device factory a couple of years ago before i went back to college. Many hated the company who were an American multinational. Initially i was just delighted to earn the few bob but as time went on, it became a fairly toxic work environment. A core of us became a very close knit group of friends over time but on our particular line there was a group of bitchy women. There was such a horrible vibe throughout the place too and mistrust from one person to the next. Some of the supervisors were absolutely disgusting in their behaviour and the more the recession kicked in, the more they stamped their authority. One particular muppet was a noted bully in the organisation and is probably still there. Im not though and thats the main thing.

    I wholeheartedly agree with Steve Jobs when he addressed the graduates at Stanford back in 2005.
    "Your time here is limited, so don't waste it living someone's else's life"

    Abbott or Boston?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭intheclouds


    And loads of us find jobs we enjoy, understand that we need to contribute to society and don't think the world owes us a living...

    Eh, Im not sure if you just dont understand my post or are making assumptions because you have some kind of chip on your shoulder, but I do contribute to society (in more ways than just through income tax) and I dont think the world owes me a living.

    Im simply tuned in enough to my own wants and needs to understand what makes me tick - and it aint work.

    Delighted for you if it does - but guess what - people are not all the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    FTA69 wrote: »
    It's rare I agree with you but I do here 100%. I find my work immensely fulfilling and while it's challenging and difficult, I think it defines a huge part of who I am. I'm one of the few who is lucky to do what they love.

    Recently I had give days off over Easter and we're saving so didn't go abroad - as such we were hanging around London. We went to plays, trained twice a day, went for dinner and the museums etc and still I feel like sh*t, like I've been robbed of something or the feeling that I should have been doing something else.

    The only time I've ever felt properly low is when I haven't been working, and that kicks in after two or three days for me.

    This is genuinely depressing...you felt low when you had a few days off. Work shouldn't be your whole life


  • Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is genuinely depressing...you felt low when you had a few days off. Work shouldn't be your whole life

    In all fairness Paddy, you get to define for yourself what your work is. If you're lucky enough to do what you love & some sod is paying for it, then happy days!

    As for me, if it needs doing, it gets done. That attitude has served me well in my working life. I reject bitching unless there's a chance something would be done to change matters for the better.

    And remember, work is a trade. It's not a master-servant thing. If you don't like the deal, find a better one. And being decent gets you extra.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭intheclouds


    Permabear wrote: »
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    I appreciate the point youre making but I just cant see how work is ever better than spending time with family/loved ones or just relaxing doing something you really enjoy (and while you might enjoy work, it will always be constrained by its function - to earn money).

    I mean, its great for anyone who does enjoy their work - but I would think that this is very far from the norm for the majority of people (that they would rather work above all else).

    Ive known some men (for some reason its only been men) who were dead or in terrible depression within weeks of retirement because they were defined by their jobs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Radiosonde


    Permabear wrote: »
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    It depends very much on what you do and how you feel about it though. I agree that a life of nothing but play and relaxation would be unsatisfying, but unfortunately the kinds of work - and work environments - many people are in are not stimulating, or healthy.

    If you are doing something you love and making lots of money that's great; most people would want that for themselves. But in reality, many do boring, repetitive work, and may have limited options to change that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    This is genuinely depressing...you felt low when you had a few days off. Work shouldn't be your whole life

    Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of other interests outside of work (travel and boxing primarily) and I take great pleasure from them as well. I suppose when I'm not working for a prolonged period I tend to go abroad somewhere and being at home with no work isn't something I'm used to.

    Similarly my job isn't a conventional one so I don't see it as drudge at all. It's basically doing the stuff I was always motivated to do but I get paid to do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭intheclouds


    Permabear wrote: »
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    Its unfortunate if your family doesnt stimulate you. The things I like to do (I dont have kids) are stimulating (for me), and far far more stimulating than work. That and a healthy measure of relaxing. Of course I dont do many of the things Id like to do because there just isnt time while working full time, but Ive a list as long as my arm of things to do "when I have more time". Stimulating things ;)
    Permabear wrote: »
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    Part time work might make for a more balanced life but for me, working full time, commuting, trying to get to the gym, study, chores, etc... there really isnt a free minute monday to friday so theres only 2 days a week to do things I enjoy (often dominated by things I didnt have time to do during the week) - so I cant agree that work is balanced at all in my life.
    Permabear wrote: »
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    I hope you are able to do as you wish. My father in law had the same plan but ill health forced him to retire, he had a huge crisis of identity and fell into depression because he only loved work, wasnt stimulated by anything else, had no interests really and was completely floored by all the free time and nothing to fill it.

    His biggest regret now is that he placed too much importance in work throughout his life.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Its unfortunate if your family doesnt stimulate you.

    Talk about misrepresenting a post....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Permabear wrote: »
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    Exactly. I spent the Easter Weekend doing a load of stuff; plays, museums, boxing, cooking etc as well as spending time with my missus and lounging around but that gets old quick as f*ck.

    Whatever about loafing when I'm travelling over a period of time, doing it around the gaff is just plain depressing. And I'm glad I'm wired to be active and doing stuff to be honest, it has served me well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Radiosonde


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Exactly. I spent the Easter Weekend doing a load of stuff; plays, museums, boxing, cooking etc as well as spending time with my missus and lounging around but that gets old quick as f*ck.

    Whatever about loafing when I'm travelling over a period of time, doing it around the gaff is just plain depressing. And I'm glad I'm wired to be active and doing stuff to be honest, it has served me well.

    But what if the stuff you had to do consisted of, for example, commuting a couple of hours daily to clean offices for low pay? Would being at home be so depressing in contrast?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭intheclouds


    smash wrote: »
    Talk about misrepresenting a post....

    It certainly wasnt intended to misrepresent, the poster said that relaxing and doing things with the family for too long leaves them irritable for want of something more stimulating to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Radiosonde wrote: »
    But what if the stuff you had to do consisted of, for example, commuting a couple of hours daily to clean offices for low pay? Would being at home be so depressing in contrast?

    Nope definitely not. I've worked sh*t jobs for years since I left school and hated every minute of it. Absolutely no honour in poverty work or soulless, exploitative graft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    It certainly wasnt intended to misrepresent, the poster said that relaxing and doing things with the family for too long leaves them irritable for want of something more stimulating to do.

    Most people feel like this. It doesn't mean that family life doesn't stimulate them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭intheclouds


    Permabear wrote: »
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    Wouldnt a lack of time be the norm for most people who work full time away from home?

    I am gone from 7am (gym before work)and not home til 6.30pm. By the time I get dinners cooked, eaten, cleaned up, cats fed, some chores done, its usually around 8.30pm. That leaves about an hour for study before I have to get things ready for the next day, then I read a bit to unwind then sleep.

    My husband largely follows the same pattern although he gets home from work a bit later.

    Any deviation from the above means either missing sleep or missing study. There just is no free time. I cant imagine how people with kids manage.

    And thats with military style precision regarding food, pre prepared meals, lunches, laundry etc...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Radiosonde


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Nope definitely not. I've worked sh*t jobs for years since I left school and hated every minute of it. Absolutely no honour in poverty work or soulless, exploitative graft.

    And yet as long as there are offices, someone will have to clean them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38,989 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    I appreciate the point youre making but I just cant see how work is ever better than spending time with family/loved ones or just relaxing doing something you really enjoy (and while you might enjoy work, it will always be constrained by its function - to earn money).

    I mean, its great for anyone who does enjoy their work - but I would think that this is very far from the norm for the majority of people (that they would rather work above all else).

    Ive known some men (for some reason its only been men) who were dead or in terrible depression within weeks of retirement because they were defined by their jobs.

    Maybe it is all they know, and know to do in life and are not happy without it. Mostly single men I reckon ? Time off and having free time is amazing, I cannot fathom anything else so amazing, the time to do what interests you out of the field and free with no constraints.

    The older generation worked and worked constantly and as such over so many years became accustomed to the work experience, and when they have their holidays they haven't a clue what to do because all they have done was worked all their lives.

    Time for a Kit Kat and have a break and lose the physical and mental worries of work for a week or two. Living to work ? I'd rather enjoy my weeks off from work and forward myself to the Island of love below.

    No point in working yourself from a young age to old age constantly to the end. Enjoy life, and enjoy the days and weeks off and be happy and thankful before it's too late. Come join me on a day off of bliss, off to the beach now in 45 minutes, rain, hail or shine.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Radiosonde wrote: »
    And yet as long as there are offices, someone will have to clean them.

    Absolutely, and those who do cleaning work should be acknowledged for the vital role they do in society and rewarded with a decent living wage and respectable working conditions - something they rarely get at the moment.

    A major campaign I have worked on with my own job is organising cleaners and domestic workers and we have had tremendous success in making real change in how these jobs are structured.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    I wouldn't hate working, would just rather do anything else. A major reason for doing a PhD was to avoid getting a job.

    Working for me is merely to get money to live on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭intheclouds


    Permabear wrote: »
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    My commute is by car about 30 minutes in the morning, about 40ish minutes home (I miss the morning traffic because I leave early to go to the gym).

    So not a mad commute by any standards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 785 ✭✭✭team_actimel


    Nah..I just hate the same small talk every day. Everyone is getting increasingly obsessed with the weather as the years go by. I would rather silence at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Nah..I just hate the same small talk every day. Everyone is getting increasingly obsessed with the weather as the years go by. I would rather silence at this stage.

    The weekend was pretty mad though - four seasons in one day. And I mean, there is a grand stretch in the evening now with the clocks changing and all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Tinder Surprise


    I've one simple rule ..

    If a certain job gives you GLENROE FEAR on a Sunday evening then get the f*ck out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 785 ✭✭✭team_actimel


    The weekend was pretty mad though - four seasons in one day. And I mean, there is a grand stretch in the evening now with the clocks changing and all.

    And fierce mild weather we've been having!
    Do we work together? I feel like we do since we've broken the ice with a nice weather convo!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    That is what I love about this Island... four seasons in one day. Some folk complain about the rain and deep grey clouds descending upon them , but it is the change in weather that makes us all talk about it so much, it changes in an instant to a different Millibar and high and low pressure constantly around this Island.

    Ireland's weather is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get.


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