Would you die for Ireland?

Saving ireland or saving the gob****es in it? very different questions to which id give very different answers.

I like to think I would but it's hard to know.

Then again, I haven't taken arms against Fine Gael yet and they're about as close to being 'british' as an Irish political party gets. I even walked past Enda Kenny once outside Leinster house and would definitely have landed a punch before the Special Branch lads stopped me and I let it go so I suppose that that's evidence that I might not.

Hammer89 wrote: »

Imagine the Queen, in a very hypothetical situation, turned around and said: 'Here, lads, go over to Ireland nick those other 26 things back, would you?'

What would you do? Would you kiss your wives, girlfriends and children goodbye and risk your life for this country? Not trying to stoke any fires here I'm genuinely interested in knowing how many people would be willing to die in order to save the country.

Personally, I wouldn't. I'm not very patriotic in the first place, which you can probably tell, but even if I was, would I love Ireland more than life itself? I doubt it. I quite like being alive.

Pfft, no.

A working class man shooting working class soldiers so the establishment as usual can impose their will after the dust settles

No is the answer

Caoimhgh1n wrote: »

Education being better is your opinion. I have already stated my opinion with regard OP's question.

I never said it was better or not, you said it was one of the things you'd die for. Surely, if you'd sacrifice your life for it, you know what it was like?

RealJohn wrote: »

I like to think I would but it's hard to know.

Then again, I haven't taken arms against Fine Gael yet and they're about as close to being 'british' as an Irish political party gets. I even walked past Enda Kenny once outside Leinster house and would definitely have landed a punch before the Special Branch lads stopped me and I let it go so I suppose that that's evidence that I might not.

IN what way are Fine Gael "British"?

I wouldn't die for anyone or anything. I'll look after myself because people deep down couldn't care less about anyone but themselves.

I would die for my country if the invading side were committing atrocities against the population or people I loved, I would never risk my life for the sake of some stupid political naming or status of a piece of land..

I think you would have to have a more likely modern context. Would I give up my life to stop a dissident or terrorist killing a load of people in the middle of Dublin.....maybe, but I'd try very hard to make sure it was just him.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

That's just bull****.

Selling the country? Eh, what?

Anti langauge? They simply suggested making it optional for the last two years of to allow students choose for themselves where their interests lie - a very practical and sensible educational approach - ad suddenly they're "very much anti the Irish language"...?

They sold the lottery and Aer Lingus, both of which were making money (and even if Aer Lingus had been making a loss, it was very short sighted thinking).

And make no mistake, selling Irish Water is the long term goal too.

As for the other point, making Irish optional for leaving cert might be "a very practical and sensible educational approach" (and that is very much debatable, not to mention that they never suggested doing the same for english and maths, but we'll ignore that for the purposes of this thread) but it ignores entirely the knock on effect of such a change. Leaving cert Irish currently contributes heavily to the economy of the various Gaeltachts. Many Gaeltacht residents rely heavily on they money they make during the summer from Irish students. The flow of students dries up and many Gaeltacht residents have to leave the Gaeltacht in order to feed their families and the Gaeltachts disappear (over time). This is already happening of course but if leaving cert Irish is made optional, it will happen faster.

Once the Gaeltachts disappear, all of a sudden it gets very close to being the dead language it's often declared to be.