Would you die for Ireland?

Hammer89

Imagine the Queen, in a very hypothetical situation, turned around and said: 'Here, lads, go over to Ireland nick those other 26 things back, would you?'

What would you do? Would you kiss your wives, girlfriends and children goodbye and risk your life for this country? Not trying to stoke any fires here I'm genuinely interested in knowing how many people would be willing to die in order to save the country.

Personally, I wouldn't. I'm not very patriotic in the first place, which you can probably tell, but even if I was, would I love Ireland more than life itself? I doubt it. I quite like being alive.

MadDog76

Hammer89 wrote: »

Imagine the Queen, in a very hypothetical situation, turned around and said: 'Here, lads, go over to Ireland nick those other 26 things back, would you?'

What would you do? Would you kiss your wives, girlfriends and children goodbye and risk your life for this country? Not trying to stoke any fires here I'm genuinely interested in knowing how many people would be willing to die in order to save the country.

Personally, I wouldn't. I'm not very patriotic in the first place, which you can probably tell, but even if I was, would I love Ireland more than life itself? I doubt it. I quite like being alive.

We'll use you as a sand-bag.

maudgonner

I think I would be more likely to do it if I had witnessed atrocities, or feared that they would happen to those I loved.

If it was just a threat of Britain taking over the government, then probably not.

Hammer89

MadDog76 wrote: »

We'll use you as a sand-bag.

You'd have to find me first. I'd be in hiding as soon as the first bomb landed.

razorblunt

Have a cup of tea and sit down with them.
I'd even have a Lyons if it meant it was for Ireland.

I'd be dead to Cork people for that alone, but sure look it, its for Ireland.

Hammer89

maudgonner wrote: »

If it was just a threat of Britain taking over the government, then probably not.

That's what I mean, yes. I'm not talking about mass extermination. I'm talking about hating David Cameron instead of hating Enda Kenny.

Valetta

Definitely not.

I only get into fights I think I have a chance of winning.

riffmongous

Your hypothetical is not very good, you should have gone with aliens

eviltwin

I would in me hole

Hannibelle Smeeeth

If I thought they'd be marching down O'Connell Street flying a flag with my face on it 100 years later I might. But knowing my luck I'd trip and fall on the way to the battle field and end up taking out a few of my own by accident

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Exactly what would I be risking it for...?

So that I can pay for Enda ****ing Kenny or whoever replaces him can swan about in limos and private jets pretending to be someone important? Are you ****ting me?

Permabear

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CarrickMcJoe

I would, but only after we have used up the "Shame on you' brigade first....

riffmongous

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What if the whole world was taken over by communists?

Caoimhgh1n

I would be willing to die for Ireland to stay independent, the British don't deserve us.

Ten of Swords

Hammer89 wrote: »

I'm genuinely interested in knowing how many people would be willing to die in order to save the country

I'm really not sure what modern first world army the defense forces would be able to withstand a direct assault from for any length of time, particularly without air support. I'm pretty sure the country would not be saved (by your definition) so it would be a completely futile death.

To answer your question, as a combatant or partisan/irregular fighter - no, absolutely not

Caoimhgh1n

Psst, Guys! Don't be giving her majesty any ideas!

maudgonner

Hammer89 wrote: »

That's what I mean, yes. I'm not talking about mass extermination. I'm talking about hating David Cameron instead of hating Enda Kenny.

Yeah, I probably wouldn't be arsed then. But if they tried to replace proper Taytos with the imposters that are sold in the North, then that would be a different matter.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Caoimhgh1n wrote: »

I would be willing to die for Ireland to stay independent, the British don't deserve us.

So what, exactly, are you dying for? What practical changes? The only one listed at so far, was the possibly extinction of Tayto.

Jimoslimos

riffmongous wrote: »

What if the whole world was taken over by communists?

Work really really inefficiently as a form of peaceful protest?

PARlance

Hammer89 wrote: »

Imagine the Queen, in a very hypothetical situation, turned around and said: 'Here, lads, go over to Ireland nick those other 26 things back, would you?'

What would you do? Would you kiss your wives, girlfriends and children goodbye and risk your life for this country? Not trying to stoke any fires here I'm genuinely interested in knowing how many people would be willing to die in order to save the country.

Personally, I wouldn't. I'm not very patriotic in the first place, which you can probably tell, but even if I was, would I love Ireland more than life itself? I doubt it. I quite like being alive.

Hypothetical answer: absolutely, I would hypothetically die for my Country.

Reality: Not a hope.

The One Doctor

Nope. I am not an never will be nationalist or patriotic. I had no choice being born in Ireland, why be proud of it? Might as well be proud of being white or male. That said, while I'm not proud I do appreciate living in a country with clean water, no war, a reasonable social welfare network and good public services, despite the Indo freaks.

Permabear

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roadrunner16

MadDog76 wrote: »

We'll use you as a sand-bag.

The point of War isn't do die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his

12Phase

Lizzy's more likely to just call over for a cup of tea though than attempt invading. She's not that kind of queen.
That was more Lizzy 1.0 style back in the 1500s.

Caoimhgh1n

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

So what, exactly, are you dying for? What practical changes? The only one listed at so far, was the possibly extinction of Tayto.

Indepence. My own country.

MacauDragon

ATHLONE W-AKBAR



BOOOOM.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Caoimhgh1n wrote: »

Indepence. My own country.

Yeah, you said, but what does that mean? What would be the practical difference? Purely token independence, or is there some aspect of life that would change?

Caoimhgh1n

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Yeah, you said, but what does that mean? What would be the practical difference? Purely token independence, or is there some aspect of life that would change?

The education system, healthcare and so many other things would change.

Permabear

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Caoimhgh1n

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That is your opinion.

Permabear

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Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Caoimhgh1n wrote: »

The education system, healthcare and so many other things would change.

In what way? I mean, is our health service better than theirs? Would education improve if they took over?

Sorry to grill you, but the problem is: I really don;t see any difference between Ireiand under Fine Gael an Ireland under the Torys. Culturally, everything we do (langauge, singing, dancing, GAA, so on) is practiced and encouraged in the UK, so how would life change?

screamer

Saving ireland or saving the gob****es in it? very different questions to which id give very different answers.

Caoimhgh1n

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

In what way? I mean, is our health service better than theirs? Would education improve if they took over?

Sorry to grill you, but the problem is: I really don;t see any difference between Ireiand under Fine Gael an Ireland under the Torys. Culturally, everything we do (langauge, singing, dancing, GAA, so on) is practiced and encouraged in the UK, so how would life change?

Education being better is your opinion. I have already stated my opinion with regard OP's question.

RealJohn

I like to think I would but it's hard to know.

Then again, I haven't taken arms against Fine Gael yet and they're about as close to being 'british' as an Irish political party gets. I even walked past Enda Kenny once outside Leinster house and would definitely have landed a punch before the Special Branch lads stopped me and I let it go so I suppose that that's evidence that I might not.

Liberosis

Depends whether or not it's a cause I believe is worth dying for. I'd hate to be conscripted to a cause I couldn't give a ****e about. I wouldn't die for Ireland just for the sake of it.

Iwasfrozen

Hammer89 wrote: »

Imagine the Queen, in a very hypothetical situation, turned around and said: 'Here, lads, go over to Ireland nick those other 26 things back, would you?'

What would you do? Would you kiss your wives, girlfriends and children goodbye and risk your life for this country? Not trying to stoke any fires here I'm genuinely interested in knowing how many people would be willing to die in order to save the country.

Personally, I wouldn't. I'm not very patriotic in the first place, which you can probably tell, but even if I was, would I love Ireland more than life itself? I doubt it. I quite like being alive.

Pfft, no.

The Talking Bread

Oh god the thoughts of anyone but our current beloved lot running the country makes me cry..........

SEPT 23 1989

A working class man shooting working class soldiers so the establishment as usual can impose their will after the dust settles

No is the answer

whatawaster81

Well no, I'd wait for the EU army to turn up now that Britain don't want to be in it anymore.

Failing that I'd assume USA would do something.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Caoimhgh1n wrote: »

Education being better is your opinion. I have already stated my opinion with regard OP's question.

I never said it was better or not, you said it was one of the things you'd die for. Surely, if you'd sacrifice your life for it, you know what it was like?

RealJohn wrote: »

I like to think I would but it's hard to know.

Then again, I haven't taken arms against Fine Gael yet and they're about as close to being 'british' as an Irish political party gets. I even walked past Enda Kenny once outside Leinster house and would definitely have landed a punch before the Special Branch lads stopped me and I let it go so I suppose that that's evidence that I might not.

IN what way are Fine Gael "British"?

bodice ripper

I won't waste my love on a nation.

Liberosis

I don't think the British invading is the best example, I mean we're too alike. They might learn from there previous mistakes and give us Home Rule. I would be more worried about China or North Korea.

Starokan

I would certainly for a number of reasons but primarily because I would be massively opposed to any other country thinking they could take over our own country and make us subject to their laws, rules etc without engaging in any democratic process.

StereoSound

I wouldn't die for anyone or anything. I'll look after myself because people deep down couldn't care less about anyone but themselves.

RealJohn

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

IN what way are Fine Gael "British"?

I didn't say they are 'british' but they do want to sell the country off as quickly as possible and are very much anti the Irish language.

wakka12

I would die for my country if the invading side were committing atrocities against the population or people I loved, I would never risk my life for the sake of some stupid political naming or status of a piece of land..

MadDog76

roadrunner16 wrote: »

The point of War isn't do die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his

Did you mean to quote someone else's post?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Yes I would, I've sworn to.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

RealJohn wrote: »

I didn't say they are 'british' but they do want to sell the country off as quickly as possible and are very much anti the Irish language.

That's just bull****.

Selling the country? Eh, what?

Anti langauge? They simply suggested making it optional for the last two years of to allow students choose for themselves where their interests lie - a very practical and sensible educational approach - ad suddenly they're "very much anti the Irish language"...?