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Ice Maiden · 23-03-2016 12:57PM

silverharp wrote: »

clinton tweeted that its nothing to do with Islam...well okay then!

A well meaning but silly soundbite. Unfortunately it has a lot to do with Islam. A fanatical form of Islam for sure, but to say it has nothing to do with Islam is woefully dishonest.

FA Hayek · 23-03-2016 01:00PM

Not surprised that there are some posters even now that support suicide bombers.

Yamanoto · 23-03-2016 01:02PM

Nodin wrote: »

The lengths to which people go to in order to bend reality to their own agenda is sickening.

Says the arch apologist for the Provisional IRA.

Funny old world.

dav3 · 23-03-2016 01:03PM

conorhal wrote: »

So we 'let them all in', what in your opinion happens next?

Who is "them" though? Are you talking about a specific country, race, religion?

If we set up a strict screening process and only take the non-muslim refugees we should be able to get at least 100,000 in to Ireland in the first wave.

Would that be acceptable to you?

Maximus Alexander · 23-03-2016 01:12PM

dav3 wrote: »

Who is "them" though? Are you talking about a specific country, race, religion?

Brown people of course. They're all responsible for this. Even the ones that are running from it.

Ice Maiden · 23-03-2016 01:13PM

FA Hayek wrote: »

Not surprised that there are some posters even now that support suicide bombers.

OK there's definitely downplaying and whataboutery - but actual support? I doubt anyone would *support* what the terrorists have done.

fin12 · 23-03-2016 01:13PM

dav3 wrote: »

Who is "them" though? Are you talking about a specific country, race, religion?

If we set up a strict screening process and only take the non-muslim refugees we should be able to get at least 100,000 in to Ireland in the first wave.

Would that be acceptable to you?

Well if we have to take any we should take in christian refugees and Yazisdi's first who are extremely persecuted in those countries firstly before any Muslim refugees. Muslim religion isn't just a religion its a lifestyle and that lifestyle is not compatible with western society if they are not willing to integrate they should not be allowed in. Why should a woman be allowed walk through the streets here wearing a burka, if I was over in Iran I couldn't walk through the street wearing a short skirt and string top and would have to keep my hair covered.

Maximus Alexander · 23-03-2016 01:15PM

fin12 wrote: »

Why should a woman be allowed walk through the streets here wearing a burka, if I was over in Iran I couldn't walk through the street wearing a short skirt and string top and would have to keep my hair covered.

So you're saying... we should be more like Iran?

Nodin · 23-03-2016 01:19PM

conorhal wrote: »

Which you respond to with your tiresome regurgitation of 'nothing to see here' while having no argument to refute them..

"The aliens are eating our brains!" claim is best refuted by saying "shite talk". I find. Entering into a debate gives legitimacy to the notion of Aliens and their brain eating ways.

conorhal wrote: »

Your kill the messenger aproach and transparent attempt to 'no platform' debate is looking pretty weak, but I'd be curious to know what your understanding of how this mass immigration is likely to impact society and social cohesion? Please enlighten us on how exactly you see all this panning out in the coming decades? So we 'let them all in', what in your opinion happens next?

Not that I expect an answer though.

In the long run it will calm down and people will wonder what the panic was over. In the meantime we must ensure that neither the bearded weirdies or the far rights knuckle draggers control the narrative.

stoplooklisten · 23-03-2016 01:22PM

The BBC can't handle 2 different languages at the press conference

inforfun · 23-03-2016 01:24PM

12Phase wrote: »

In reality they would possibly be better as part of NL and France respectively although I don't think that would work either. The Francophone Belgians consider the French extremely arrogant and they're also royalists which would go down like a lead balloon in La Republique Française .. Meanwhile the Flemish consider the Dutch to be very arrogant and loud and generally not their favourite neighbours and I'm not sure either NL or FR would have them either.

Now the Dutch wouldnt mind so much the Flemish joining. The Flemish however probably wouldnt like that idea.
The Dutch just living across the border in Belgium wouldnt like it either.
And it is not just the Flemish who would join. The Netherlands has enough "Molenbeeks" of their own already. No need to add a few more.

conorhal · 23-03-2016 01:26PM

Nodin wrote: »

"The aliens are eating our brains!" claim is best refuted by saying "shite talk". I find. Entering into a debate gives legitimacy to the notion of Aliens and their brain eating ways.

In the long run it will calm down and people will wonder what the panic was over. In the meantime we must ensure that neither the bearded weirdies or the far rights knuckle draggers control the narrative.

Sure it will Pollyanna.

fin12 · 23-03-2016 01:27PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

So you're saying... we should be more like Iran?

No, Im saying I cant do what I like if I go over to their countries and have to respect their laws but they have no regard for ours, the burka is a sign of oppression an has no place in Irish society. They use the excuse of religion to do what ever they want.

dav3 · 23-03-2016 01:28PM

icecream99 wrote: »

Ireland will face Islamic terrorism in the future.

It comes from a mindset stretching back 1300 years, long before Iraq or Afghanistan, and Ireland is importing it and nurturing it in the name of " tolerance ".

I think it's a bit of a stretch to claim 'Ireland is importing and nurturing Islamic terrorism', i think you can see that too.

If all your fears are addressed, how many refugees would you be willing to accept over here?

stoplooklisten · 23-03-2016 01:31PM

dav3 wrote: »

I think it's a bit of a stretch to claim 'Ireland is importing and nurturing Islamic terrorism', i think you can see that too.

If all your fears are addressed, how many refugees would you be willing to accept over here?

Of course we are nurturing and protecting them. Look at the Islamist and his family that run a prominent mosque. His son is in jail for supporting the Muslim Brotherhood. Amnesty and the irish independent has a hard on for them.

Remember the islamist and his family from louth? He got killed in Syria. He was a great lad.

icecream99 · 23-03-2016 01:41PM

dav3 wrote: »

I think it's a bit of a stretch to claim 'Ireland is importing and nurturing Islamic terrorism', i think you can see that too.

If all your fears are addressed, how many refugees would you be willing to accept over here?

Show me exactly where I claim that " Ireland is importing and nurturing Islamic terrorism ". I did no such thing. You just made that up.

Ireland is however importing and nurturing Islamofacism and Islamic Supremacism. Case in point, the Muslim Brotherhood family of Ibrahim Halawa.

We still don't know how the father Halawa entered the country, but my guess is that he claimed Asylum based on being persecuted in Egypt for his religious beliefs. And what are his religious beliefs given he is a leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood ? Jihad for the overthrow of democracy and the imposition of Sharia law inEgypt. The family continued to live in Egypt and it appears that Ibrahim's status and an IBC gave the rest of the family the opportunity to move to Ireland, although not all of them took it and some remained living in Egypt.

And what of the Halawa sisters in in Ireland ? Gender segregated protests on the streets of Dublin, being part of events where ONLY Muslim Females are allowed to attend, and supporting the Islomfacist / Terrorist Rights organisation CAGE on Social Media.

Islamofacism and Islamic Supremacism ultimately leads to Islamic inspired terrorism.

Maximus Alexander · 23-03-2016 01:43PM

fin12 wrote: »

No, Im saying I cant do what I like if I go over to their countries and have to respect their laws but they have no regard for ours, the burka is a sign of oppression an has no place in Irish society. They use the excuse of religion to do what ever they want.

Surely a sign of oppression would be telling women what they can't wear?

icecream99 · 23-03-2016 01:45PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Surely a sign of oppression would be telling women what they can't wear?

Yes, you can't wear western clothing.

dav3 · 23-03-2016 01:47PM

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Of course we are nurturing and protecting them. Look at the Islamist and his family that run a prominent mosque. His son is in jail for supporting the Muslim Brotherhood. Amnesty and the irish independent has a hard on for them.

Remember the islamist and his family from louth? He got killed in Syria. He was a great lad.

Many men have left theses shores to fight wars abroad, some good, some bad, it has happened throughout our history.

I still don't know how the above relates to importing and nurturing Islamic terrorists in Ireland.

fin12 · 23-03-2016 01:48PM

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Surely a sign of oppression would be telling women what they can't wear?

Well what other reason other than religion would someone be wearing a burka, and with security and everything, you should be able to see everyone's face. We cant walk around naked either is that oppression so as well, your just twisting stuff, Burka is oppression and doesn't have a place in a western country.

dav3 · 23-03-2016 01:55PM

icecream99 wrote: »

Show me exactly where I claim that " Ireland is importing and nurturing Islamic terrorism ". I did no such thing. You just made that up.

Ireland is however importing and nurturing Islamofacism and Islamic Supremacism. Case in point, the Muslim Brotherhood family of Ibrahim Halawa.

We still don't know how the father Halawa entered the country, but my guess is that he claimed Asylum based on being persecuted in Egypt for his religious beliefs. And what are his religious beliefs given he is a leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood ? Jihad for the overthrow of democracy and the imposition of Sharia law inEgypt. The family continued to live in Egypt and it appears that Ibrahim's status and an IBC gave the rest of the family the opportunity to move to Ireland, although not all of them took it and some remained living in Egypt.

And what of the Halawa sisters in in Ireland ? Gender segregated protests on the streets of Dublin, being part of events where ONLY Muslim Females are allowed to attend, and supporting the Islomfacist / Terrorist Rights organisation CAGE on Social Media.

Islamofacism and Islamic Supremacism ultimately leads to Islamic inspired terrorism.

That's a lot of guesswork, well done on that.

What is the scale of 'Islamofacism and Islamic Supremacism' in Ireland? What is the threat?

How many refugees are you willing to take into Ireland?

Timberrrrrrrr · 23-03-2016 01:55PM

fin12 wrote: »

No, Im saying I cant do what I like if I go over to their countries and have to respect their laws but they have no regard for ours, the burka is a sign of oppression an has no place in Irish society. They use the excuse of religion to do what ever they want.

But it isn't against the law to wear one (yet) so what laws are the Muslims not respecting?

Boom_Bap · 23-03-2016 02:00PM

icecream99 wrote: »

Show me exactly where I claim that " Ireland is importing and nurturing Islamic terrorism ". I did no such thing. You just made that up.

Ireland is however importing and nurturing Islamofacism and Islamic Supremacism. Case in point, the Muslim Brotherhood family of Ibrahim Halawa.

We still don't know how the father Halawa entered the country, but my guess is that he claimed Asylum based on being persecuted in Egypt for his religious beliefs. And what are his religious beliefs given he is a leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood ? Jihad for the overthrow of democracy and the imposition of Sharia law inEgypt. The family continued to live in Egypt and it appears that Ibrahim's status and an IBC gave the rest of the family the opportunity to move to Ireland, although not all of them took it and some remained living in Egypt.

And what of the Halawa sisters in in Ireland ? Gender segregated protests on the streets of Dublin, being part of events where ONLY Muslim Females are allowed to attend, and supporting the Islomfacist / Terrorist Rights organisation CAGE on Social Media.

Islamofacism and Islamic Supremacism ultimately leads to Islamic inspired terrorism.

You've had a thread closed on this subject and posts removed so far.
Stop trying to derail this thread with discussion on Islam in Ireland or you will not be posting in it again.

fin12 · 23-03-2016 02:04PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

But it isn't against the law to wear one (yet) so what laws are the Muslims not respecting?

But it should be, basically I just feel like its one rule for them and another for us, they have no respect for our culture or way of life.

stoplooklisten · 23-03-2016 02:04PM

Can you outline the geographical region which we are allowed talk about?
Is it confined to the city of Brussels or is all of Belgium included?

Timberrrrrrrr · 23-03-2016 02:08PM

fin12 wrote: »

But it should be, basically I just feel like its one rule for them and another for us, they have no respect for our culture or way of life.

I hate beanie hats, top knots, fat chicks in mini skirts and men with ridiculous beards. Croc should be banned as a fashion crime and don't get me started on Sandals and socks.

Just because you disagree with someone's dress doesn't mean it should be banned.

Fwiw I think a burka ban should be imposed at airports, gov buildings etc but not when someone is out shopping or in public.

foggy_lad · 23-03-2016 02:09PM

Ice Maiden wrote: »

OK there's definitely downplaying and whataboutery - but actual support? I doubt anyone would *support* what the terrorists have done.

When people going about their normal business have been blown to shít it is not the place for downplaying or whataboutary.

It is frankly insulting to the memories of those who have died and is insulting those who have been injured and maimed.

People downplaying such acts are in my humble view as bad if not worse than the terrorists, To say that refugees or migrants should not be deported after a long jail sentence is clear support for terrorism and those involved in terrorism!

People have died horribly, a bit of respect and common decency towards them and a death sentence on the terrorists is all that is acceptable!

Tasden · 23-03-2016 02:09PM

fin12 wrote: »

But it should be, basically I just feel like its one rule for them and another for us, they have no respect for our culture or way of life.

In what way have they no respect for "our culture"?

stoplooklisten · 23-03-2016 02:09PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I hate beanie hats, top knots, fat chicks in mini skirts and men with ridiculous beards. Croc should be banned as a fashion crime and don't get me started on Sandals and socks.

Just because you disagree with someone's dress doesn't mean it should be banned.

Fwiw I think a burka ban should be imposed at airports, gov buildings etc but not when someone is out shopping or in public.

And when they are carrying out operations, the most of them being surgeons and what not!and when they're driving...

Timberrrrrrrr · 23-03-2016 02:12PM

stoplooklisten wrote: »

And when they are carrying out operations, the most of them being surgeons and what not!and when they're driving...

Once it doesn't impair thier ability to do thier job then what's your issue?

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