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Breaking - explosions at Brussels Airport **Mod warning in post 1**

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭walshyn93


    STB. wrote: »
    WHO is We ?

    Who do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭cjmc11


    I hope this isn't seen as hijacking the thread, but does anyone else think that the cctv footage of the 3 suspects in the airports is really poor?
    I would have thought it being an airport that security cameras would be absolutely top spec?
    The picture of the 3 suspects being shown on news and tv programs is blurry at best, would be really hard to recognize anyone with that quality of picture.
    Was just something I was thinking while watching prime time..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    Oh, and if you do full pre-entry screening at airports, they WILL change targets, they have no moral compass.

    They tried the Parc des Prince in france, the metro in brussels today had kids going to schools ... they are decapitating people for being westerns FFS

    How long before they manage to hit a school or a sporting event properly? Are we gonna put military at every school enterance, at every GAA training sesssion, ...

    There was military and police in the airport ... The guys got in ... it happens

    Just consider ... what looks more suspect ... 1 lad walking around with a suitcase on a trolley or 3 lads walking around with their luggage on a trolley? If there was a flight to Turkey , Morocco, Tunisia, ... this morning then are the 3 lads or the one for that matter that suspiscious?


    As bad as the death tolls are they could be a whole lot worse, eventually they'll plan something of scale ala 9/11. Unfortunately when someone is willing to blow themselves up there are huge amounts of targets with far greater population density than what they've done so far, a sporting event or concert could be risky. Hopefully the French are well equipped for this summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    dav3 wrote: »
    Terrorists? We're fairly safe, but i'm not going to hold your hand and tell you that everything is going to be ok.


    :D:D:D

    Believe me, I don't need anyone to hold my hand and tell me everything is going to be ok. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Didn't realise there was children murdered in the airport


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    walshyn93 wrote: »
    Who do you think?

    I have no idea whats in your head, that's why I asked you the question.

    Now I'll ask you again who is WE when you said.
    walshyn93 wrote: »
    "Basically what we're doing at the moment in terms of drone strikes and covert ops except seal the borders. Whatever policy we pursue to pacify the Middle East is going to make them very angry, so we had best not let the angry folks in."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Didn't realise there was children murdered in the airport

    One of the videos it was showing on CNN showed people trying to hide in a smoke filled check in hall it looked like. There were at least 3 buggies in the area. Very upsetting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,807 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    European countries need to put up a reward for info on these pigs among us. Report a terrorist get 20k. Lets see how much loyalty they'll get.
    So many people knew about these guys before they did what they did, they had no reason to get involved though.
    20k would of got someone talking. Its the only way to find the rats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,116 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    The EU needs to move to outlaw the teaching of the Wahhabi/Salafi sect of Islam funded to the sum of billions of dollars by Saudi Arabia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,412 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    European countries need to put up a reward for info on these pigs among us. Report a terrorist get 20k. Lets see how much loyalty they'll get.
    So many people knew about these guys before they did what they did, they had no reason to get involved though.
    20k would of got someone talking. Its the only way to find the rats.

    European countries need to stop doing business with Saudi Arabia.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    The EU needs to move to outlaw the teaching of the Wahhabi/Salafi sect of Islam funded to the sum of billions of dollars by Saudi Arabia.


    Yep and shamefully this is taught at Muslim schools in the UK.

    That BBC primetime equivalent - can't remember the name - did a show on it some years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    The EU needs to move to outlaw the teaching of the Wahhabi/Salafi sect of Islam funded to the sum of billions of dollars by Saudi Arabia.

    Wont happen. Human rights and all that. It's my religion so I have a right to preach hatred.
    Also won't happen as Saudi Arabia has lots and lots of oil!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭dashdoll


    cjmc11 wrote: »
    I hope this isn't seen as hijacking the thread, but does anyone else think that the cctv footage of the 3 suspects in the airports is really poor?
    I would have thought it being an airport that security cameras would be absolutely top spec?
    The picture of the 3 suspects being shown on news and tv programs is blurry at best, would be really hard to recognize anyone with that quality of picture.
    Was just something I was thinking while watching prime time..

    Thought so too....it must be zooming in loads but still.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,807 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    listermint wrote: »
    European countries need to stop doing business with Saudi Arabia.

    The man on the street who lived next to these guys could not give a fucck about Saudi Arabia. All needs to be simplified .
    I'm sure people who lived near these guys wondered if something shady was going on, they had no reason to get involved. People keep to themselves, now maybe if there was an incentive to at least report someone and if it led to a terrorist being caught before he goes out and kills people one could reward that person who reported them. All anonymously .
    We need incentives for people on the street to report these rats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,412 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Saudi Arabia funds the spread of this hate. Your plan catches a few if any at all.

    The continued acceptance of oil money via arms contracts and other business contracts by the UK France other EU nations and of course the united states is core to this problem.

    It's like a rubber stamp.

    The awarding of the head of the human rights chair to Saudi Arabia from the UN headquarters in new York was an even bigger rubber stamp.

    This state itself is a root to the spread of hate globally.

    Why business is still done with them over the safety of our citizens is beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Unknown Soldier


    The man on the street who lived next to these guys could not give a fucck about Saudi Arabia. All needs to be simplified .
    I'm sure people who lived near these guys wondered if something shady was going on, they had no reason to get involved. People keep to themselves, now maybe if there was an incentive to at least report someone and if it led to a terrorist being caught before he goes out and kills people one could reward that person who reported them. All anonymously .
    We need incentives for people on the street to report these rats.

    This has been tried for dole spongers etc and failed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,116 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    listermint wrote: »
    Why business is still done with them over the safety of our citizens is beyond me.

    Because the type of people who benefit from the vicious circle of oil sales, dollars/GBP/Euros, weapons manufacturers, destabilisation, don't give a fuck about their 'fellow' citizens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    The reason for attacks in Europe?

    There isn't just 1, there are many

    Globalisation,
    Education,
    Superiority/Inferiority complexes,
    Modern media

    There are all sorts of reasons that contribute to where we are.


    'Dr' Ali Selim from the Islamic Cultural Centre was on with Vincent Brown this evening.

    What I got from what he said was that Europeans can expect what happened in Brussels is because Muslims are marginalised and disadvantaged.
    :rolleyes:

    Traditionally (in modern history) there haven't been big Muslim populations in European countries other than Albania, Bosnia, Bulgaria.

    This has of course changed in the last half century, GastArbeiter in Germany from Turkey, North-African migration to Italy, to an extent; Belgium and France.

    The disadvantage or marginalisation of someone who chose to move to another country is reason for attacking that country. :confused:

    I remember being in Brussels just after the year 2000.

    I felt at the time that the children of immigrant parents of Muslim background were a group of people who acted differently in a whole manner of situations and ways that gave me cause to fear for the future.

    Europe is responsible for its present situation. :eek:
    What a ****up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭12Phase


    listermint wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia funds the spread of this hate. Your plan catches a few if any at all.

    The continued acceptance of oil money via arms contracts and other business contracts by the UK France other EU nations and of course the united states is core to this problem.

    It's like a rubber stamp.

    The awarding of the head of the human rights chair to Saudi Arabia from the UN headquarters in new York was an even bigger rubber stamp.

    This state itself is a root to the spread of hate globally.

    Why business is still done with them over the safety of our citizens is beyond me.

    Simple - greed and corruption at the highest levels. Money talks and countries will sell out their principles for an oil or arms deal.

    To me that just made the UN Human Rights agencies into an absolute joke and shows that the UN can simply be bought.

    It's lost all credibility thanks to nonsense like this.

    What's next make North Korea the head of the UN delegation on nuclear disarmament?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 794 ✭✭✭TheHillOfDoom


    imme wrote: »
    The reason for attacks in Europe?

    There isn't just 1, there are many

    Globalisation,
    Education,
    Superiority/Inferiority complexes,
    Modern media

    There are all sorts of reasons that contribute to where we are.


    'Dr' Ali Selim from the Islamic Cultural Centre was on with Vincent Brown this evening.

    What I got from what he said was that Europeans can expect what happened in Brussels is because Muslims are marginalised and disadvantaged.
    :rolleyes:

    Traditionally (in modern history) there haven't been big Muslim populations in European countries other than Albania, Bosnia, Bulgaria.

    This has of course changed in the last half century, GastArbeiter in Germany from Turkey, North-African migration to Italy, to an extent; Belgium and France.

    The disadvantage or marginalisation of someone who chose to move to another country is reason for attacking that country. :confused:

    I remember being in Brussels just after the year 2000.

    I felt at the time that the children of immigrant parents of Muslim background were a group of people who acted differently in a whole manner of situations and ways that gave me cause to fear for the future.

    Europe is responsible for its present situation. :eek:
    What a ****up.

    Respectfully, I'm not able to find a more diplomatic way to say this bar 'YER TALKIN THROUGH YER HOLE'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,807 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    naughtb4 wrote: »
    Outlaw religion full stop


    Fake contact with Aliens ? Release statement that we are their experiment, that they put us here.
    Yea this might work. God, what god.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,489 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Is there any thread on (On another fourm) this that is only news updates?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭12Phase


    imme wrote: »
    The reason for attacks in Europe?

    There isn't just 1, there are many

    Globalisation,
    Education,
    Superiority/Inferiority complexes,
    Modern media

    There are all sorts of reasons that contribute to where we are.


    'Dr' Ali Selim from the Islamic Cultural Centre was on with Vincent Brown this evening.

    What I got from what he said was that Europeans can expect what happened in Brussels is because Muslims are marginalised and disadvantaged.
    :rolleyes:

    Traditionally (in modern history) there haven't been big Muslim populations in European countries other than Albania, Bosnia, Bulgaria.

    This has of course changed in the last half century, GastArbeiter in Germany from Turkey, North-African migration to Italy, to an extent; Belgium and France.

    The disadvantage or marginalisation of someone who chose to move to another country is reason for attacking that country. :confused:

    I remember being in Brussels just after the year 2000.

    I felt at the time that the children of immigrant parents of Muslim background were a group of people who acted differently in a whole manner of situations and ways that gave me cause to fear for the future.

    Europe is responsible for its present situation. :eek:
    What a ****up.

    Yeah, those awful liberal social democracies with free education, social health care and social housing that try their best to give everyone equal opportunities with rafts and rafts of equality legislation etc etc etc they're clearly oppressive regimes.

    I'm actually getting fed up with this argument. It's basically victim blaming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,240 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Is there any thread on (On another fourm) this that is only news updates?

    Don't think so. But as of now:

    As a hunt for a suspect is under way, here are the latest developments from Belgium:
    • Police are hunting for a man in a hat who was caught on CCTV pushing a laden luggage trolley at Zaventem airport before a twin attack there.
    • An explosive device containing nails, chemical products and a flag of the so-called Islamic State were found during raids in Brussels.
    • Police operations were still under way in the Schaerbeek area of Brussels well into the night.
    • The threat level across Belgium has been raised to maximum, and troops have been deployed in Brussels.
    Source: BBC News Website as of 22:47pm. Seems to be the latest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 794 ✭✭✭TheHillOfDoom


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Is there any thread on (On another fourm) this that is only news updates?

    No threads, but rolling news channels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,240 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    CNN posted the following:

    Suspect in airport surveillance video left bomb
    The suspect whom authorities are seeking left a bomb in the airport, Belgian Interior Minister Jan Jambon told CNN's Phil Black. The man "left a bomb in the airport, but it didn't explode. Lucky," Jambon said. "And we are now looking for this guy."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭Ice Maiden


    Respectfully, I'm not able to find a more diplomatic way to say this bar 'YER TALKIN THROUGH YER HOLE'.
    I think they were agreeing that it's a load of balls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭wokingvoter


    Deathwish4 wrote: »
    In the wake of recent atrocities, can the Irish Government please stop giving out Citizenship like confetti.

    What's Irish Citizenship got to do with anything?
    How does withholding citizenship from people who have lived and worked here for years make you feel safer?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    ISIS, al Qaeda or whatever these creeps want to call themselves are just a bunch of violent, egotistical, atheist, fascist drug dealers and organised criminals who think they are in a James Bond film. They are a cross between Blofeld, a Mad Max warlord and that bad guy in that Saw franchise. How they can get away with what they do and why the world cannot stop these few fanatic criminals is frightening. I think compulsory 30+ year sentences for terrorism, drug crimes, burglaries, rape, murder, incitement to hatred speech, money laundering and other promotion of organised criminality is needed. These boyos are getting it soft for way too long, no wonder they are getting braver and braver and taking their battle to what they perceive as soft states.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭lazza14


    Didn't want to watch or listen to RTE last night, I can imagine them blaming the west - and God knows what that Jihadist Lara Marlowe had to say ...

    makes my blood boil


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