Breaking - explosions at Brussels Airport **Mod warning in post 1**

12Phase wrote: »

They're also picking a fight with an imaginary 'christian empire' if that's what they're doing.

The majority of Europe, especially Northern Europe, at this stage is most definitely post-enlightment, post-religious and highly secular. A majority (well over 64%) in Belgium and a lot higher again in France simply don't really consider themselves religious at all and for them it has no importance in life.

Most of Europe is *very* different from the USA when it comes to those kinds of attitudes. So, just lumping "The west" into one big bundle makes absolutely no sense.

They're really getting into picking fights with windmills territory and just frightening people and whipping up a European secular far right which is not a religious force, but it's a highly xenophobic one with an extremely nasty history and one I wouldn't want to be encouraging!!

Secular societies are as much if not more of a target I believe.

https://amaqagency.wordpress.com/2016/03/22/bombings-carried-out-by-islamic-state-fighters-hit-belgiums-capital-brussels/

Europe is being attacked from Within, how many of those terrorists probably grew up in Europe responsible for the attack today.

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Am i giving them money from ads if I click that link - serious question

Probably not, but you'll be giving them you IP address.

Atomic Pineapple wrote: »

Again I never mentioned the US nor the EU for that matter.



Unfortunately being a good human is a thankless task.




It's also irresponsible to let evil occur and do nothing about it.

So who's values are you talking about that are the opposite of ISIS? What have you personally done to prevent evil? How many refugees are living in the Pineapple household?

Liberosis wrote: »

No but you might end up on a watch list

As if we all aren't on them anyway:rolleyes:

The police has CCTV footage of 2-3 guys they think did the airport part: http://www.lesoir.be/1159167/article/actualite/belgique/2016-03-22/attentats-bruxelles-voici-photo-des-suspects-l-aeroport-zaventem

Internet Ham wrote: »

Still waiting seamus.

I missed that one.

Well if the only solution you can see is to ban Islam, then I really worry.

This is not a war. And treating it like a war by being suspicious of Muslims and launching all-out offensives on foreign soil is going to fail.

There are two main options really;

1. Pull out of the Middle East completely. Provide humanitarian aid and peacekeeping services, while looking after refugees, but let those governments fight their own civil wars.

2. Tackle them at their own game. Disrupt supply lines by attacking oil and weapons shipments while engaging in propaganda within towns in key locations. Propaganda can be both food and health supplies as well as leaflet drops and such.
At home, the focus should be on identifying key individuals involved in recruiting. Lift them out often and in big enough numbers and the structure they hold up collapses.


There's no perfect option of course. No option can work overnight, no option that can stop terrorist attacks in Europe.

Option 1 will still have terror attacks occurring, in an attempt to get us back into the ME and drive refugees back. And we would end up with the ME being a shambles of a cesspit in 15 years. It does have a lot of spillover potential too.

Option 2 is largely what's been happening in recent years and it seems to be working for the most part. But there's still a certain amount of hand-wringing and backslapping so as not to offend any dictatorships and allow weapons manufacturers to keep selling their wares on the black market.
If countries were more prepared to destroy legitimate targets and not worry about whose jurisdiction they were crossing into (Pakistan is a big source of pain here), we could be far more effective, far quicker.

K.Flyer wrote: »

I remember very well everyone being scanned at the door as you entered the airport. No Scan, No Entry!
There is plenty of space to re-introduce it again if its felt its needed.

The only effect would be to move any potential target for attackers from inside the terminal to outside the terminal.

Minderbinder wrote: »

So who's values are you talking about that are the opposite of ISIS? What have you personally done to prevent evil? How many refugees are living in the Pineapple household?

I clearly mentioned this in my post. But other than that obviously any normal logically capable human being will have values that are opposite to ISIS.

I have personally done lots to prevent evil, anyone who simply tries to be a decent human being does so throughout their life.

Evil doesn't just reside where there are refugees.

Build that wall. Quickly.