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Being at a Deathbed ?

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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 17,426 ✭✭✭✭Conor Bourke


    If anyone is interested, a new Terminal Illnesses forum has just opened

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1752


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    ***quick update***

    My father died last week peacefully at a hospice, in my OP i asked is it heartbreaking, distressing, comforting to be at a deathbed...well i found it to be all three but ultimately comforting.. and dare i say..fascinating, watching the human body as it goes into automatic shut down.

    I was very apprehensive about being there but i'm glad i was present as it was a very humbling experience and my fear of death and dying has lessened considerably because of it.

    So if any of you are facing an impending death of a loved one and are anxious about being at a deathbed i would urge you to be there as you will benefit a lot from the experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    My condolences fryup, sorry for your loss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    Sorry for your loss, look after yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    Very sorry for your loss OP.

    I think in time you'll be glad that you were there. And that your Dad had you by his side and knew how much he was loved as he passed on.

    xx


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,947 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    My condolences, fryup.

    I'm glad you found it ultimately comforting. It's pretty much all of those three but the best outcome is to be able to take the positives and use them in the times when sadness returns.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 889 ✭✭✭opiniated


    So sorry to hear about your loss, fryup. But I'm glad that you managed to find some comfort in your Dad's passing.
    It's something for you to hold onto in your grief, at least.

    Take care of yourself, now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    Hope you're doing okay fryup.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Condolences to you and the family, Fryup. Take care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭maryishere


    condolences, fryup


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭RoadhouseBlues


    Hey Fryup. Don't be surprised if you have a few teary times a good while after the fact. Its only natural. Hold on to the memories. They are entirely special. Because they are yours. Take care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭LynnGrace


    My sincere condolences fryup.

    Glad for you that you could be there. In time to come, that will be a consolation to you.

    Take care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Irish_Elect_Eng


    Thats real nice of you to say. Thank you. I keep thinking about the song I want for when its my time. But it keeps changing:-). And to be fair, the priest prob wont allow a song at all:):):):)

    As much criticism as the church deserves on other fronts, they still know how to send people on their way. Most priests are very flexible on family requests during funeral services within reasons. (No renditions of "Another one bites the dust")


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Irish_Elect_Eng


    Take care of yourself, Sorry for your loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,488 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    My condolences on your loss Fryup , take comfort in the memories , and knowing you were with him .

    Take care and stay safe.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,177 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I've never had to deal with an expected death but I have been faced with a sudden death. He just said he didn't feel well and it was like flicking a switch within seconds.
    Watching a mid 50s healthy man die suddenly like that is hard to deal with. 15 years on it feels like a few days ago. I won't ever forget answering the phone that night to someone crying so hard they couldn't utter words.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Tigerbaby


    my sympathies to you.

    I was at both my Parent's deaths. Felt my Father's wrist pulse fade on a misty foggy night in Enniscorthy. Heard my Mothers last exhalation a few years later.

    Neither of these experiences were negative. Brutally sad, as you are at the coalface between now and "next" with someone you love.

    But wonderful that I could be there just to be with them, to let them know they weren't alone, in some small way to help them across the "finish line" as they slip away. A repayment, in sort, of the love and support they gave me for so many years.

    Still miss them. Love never dies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭wokingvoter


    I was at my MIL deathbed 4 years ago
    She had been sick for 2 years in pain which , especially in her last 3 months was purgatory
    She was in complete denial from beginning to end aided and abetted by her nearest and dearest, most of whom (not my husband) were also in denial but to varying degrees
    I'm still puzzled as to what she imagined was making her so ill, so thin, and giving her so much pain
    She remained at home ( she didn't need to be in hospital, not really sick you understand ) and visiting her was very difficult
    You wanted to put your arms around her and hold her and kiss her but you had to pretend that everything was as usual
    My daughter, her eldest grandchild, wasn't allowed to visit her when she was still sitting up because as a 15 year old they couldn't trust her not to burst into tears and blow the whole thing
    She has never forgiven them
    In the end the whole family were bitching and snarling at one another
    There were no goodbyes no tender embraces no opportunities to say sorry for anything or correct any old misunderstandings
    She was in so much pain on the Wednesday night she allowed them to put up a morphine drip
    She was so thin and dehydrated that she went unconscious almost instantly and never came round again
    All of this was at home
    She was carried up to her bed where she lay surrounded constantly by grief stricken family
    She soon commenced Cheyne-Stokes breathing
    That continued until Saturday evening when she just, well stopped breathing
    There was no drama
    She'd stopped earlier once or twice but started again so we knew the end was near so everyone was crowded into the room
    She just gave one more gasp and then, nothing
    My instant reaction was relief
    I was sure she was still in pain even with the morphine and I was glad her pain was over
    Her husband was delirious with grief, but he was exhausted and relieved too
    Her daughters were devastated. She was only 65. Devastated and very angry, confused , sobbing crying out for her to come back
    My own husband and daughter were fully cognisant for months that she was absolutely certain to die
    I mean a doctor had told the whole family months before its just that most chose not to accept his prognosis
    My lasting memory is of standing there at the bedside on s summer evening with sun shining outside birds singing in the trees and traffic and children making noise on the street below and this terrible grief descending


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭edber2011


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    Loop Zoop wrote: »
    Its well known that its the morphine that kills you in the end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭wokingvoter


    edber2011 wrote: »
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    Its well known that its the morphine that kills you in the end.

    It's either thrash around in agony for a couple of weeks more before dying, literally roaring
    Or slip away earlier mercifully numb at last
    Which way is best?


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 17,426 ✭✭✭✭Conor Bourke


    edber2011 wrote: »
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    Its well known that its the morphine that kills you in the end.

    No it's not. That may be your belief, but it's ill-informed and incorrect. In the case of someone with a terminal illness, it's their body succumbing to the ravages of their disease (or sometimes the rigours of treatment) that kills you in the end.

    Loads of people with terminal illnesses die without ever needing as much as a drop of morphine/opiates. Loads of other people live for months or even years on very high doses of opiates.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 17,426 ✭✭✭✭Conor Bourke


    OP I'm sorry for your loss but glad to hear it was as good an experience as something so awful can be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭edber2011


    Loop Zoop wrote: »
    No it's not. That may be your belief, but it's ill-informed and incorrect. In the case of someone with a terminal illness, it's their body succumbing to the ravages of their disease (or sometimes the rigours of treatment) that kills you in the end.

    Loads of people with terminal illnesses die without ever needing as much as a drop of morphine/opiates. Loads of other people live for months or even years on very high doses of opiates.
    Yes,but terminal illnesses have varying degrees of pain(some none).
    The morphine tries to relieve an ever increasing pain and therefore the dose
    of morphine needs to be increased to relieve the pain of the patient.
    End result is that the pain of cancer will win as the morphine dose is so
    high that it eventually bombs the person.
    Its a pain against morphine battle,either way one or the other will kill you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭RoadhouseBlues


    As much criticism as the church deserves on other fronts, they still know how to send people on their way. Most priests are very flexible on family requests during funeral services within reasons. (No renditions of "Another one bites the dust")

    Hmmm....they can be a little wonky around here:). I really want A Whiter Shade of Pale...no pun intended. I love the song and it reminds me of my father, he loved it too. I doubt they would allow it, but I'm worrying about nothing. I hope this thread helped the person it was meant to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭The Young Wan


    fryup wrote: »
    Its something i'll be experiencing soon...so whats it like seeing a loved one as they near the end??

    distressing? heartbreaking? comforting?

    In quite a timely manner, as her anniversary is Wednesday, I'll share with you my experience of being there as we lost my grandmother.

    She was slipping away for the week, but very early on the Sunday morning she passed away. The whole family had been doing a bedside vigil, and we all came into the room to be with her at her final moment. She went at home, with her five children and a good amount of her 13 grandchildren around her.

    It's an experience I will never forget. Willing her not to go, but knowing she couldn't stay. Being with her as she took her last, raspy breath and then the eeriness of the room as it went silent broke my heart. I wouldn't go back and not be there, though. My grandmother was a huge part of my life growing up, and I felt being there with her a fitting goodbye.

    As has been said, it's a different experience for different people. It's one I don't wish to go through again any time soon, but if I had the chance I would be with every single member of my family at their last moment. It's a nice moment, when your heart is completely ripped in shreds by grief and bereavement, to reflect on your time together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭edber2011


    I was a missed phonecall away from being with my passing dad.
    I should have been there,but I wasn't.I carry that with me.
    The missed call has a story behind it that I regret to this day.
    But I guess my dad doesn't mind as he has granted me wishes.
    First was that id get a good deal in my divorce and I did.
    Second was that my brothers feet would get better and they did.
    And most recently I lost a set of important keys and I asked dad
    to please find them and after a week the keys were handed in to the garda station.
    Thanks dad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭The Young Wan


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    My gran took hours to go, it was ridiculous yet pretty surreal that we were all there, just waiting for her to die. There was about ten of us there, her own children, their partners and the grandkids who were in the country. We would rotate between her room and the nursing home's tea room. I have to say that aside from her dying it was a pretty good night because in that great Irish tradition everyone was trying to make light of the situation; plenty of tea was drunk and we even got in some pizzas. But when the time does eventually come there's no getting away from it. You'll have a new appreciation for the term 'death rattle', don't think I'll ever forget that.

    Are you one of my cousins?! This is almost exactly the scene when my own grandmother died.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭wokingvoter


    Hmmm....they can be a little wonky around here:). I really want A Whiter Shade of Pale...no pun intended. I love the song and it reminds me of my father, he loved it too. I doubt they would allow it, but I'm worrying about nothing. I hope this thread helped the person it was meant to.

    I'm sure there'll be no problem arranging to have it played at the graveside or crematorium. There's no objections there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    It's heartbreaking Fryup. Condolences to you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 RebekahD


    My deepest sympathies op, my father passed away in a hospice when I was 15, he was a week over 39.
    I always wish I'd of been allowed to be with him at the end, tell him I loved him one last time, hold his hand one last time, but the decision was taken away from me by well meaning people, it has made it harder to grieve, despite the funeral.
    Its 33 years now, I miss him as much now as I did then, if not more.
    I just hope the saying of time heals kicks in soon, maybe if I stopped talking to him or tried thinking of him less it would help, but I could never do that.
    I know he's around still, like the other poster if something is missing we ask him to help us find it and very soon it will show up in a place searched a hundred times.
    My hardest times were when my children were born and I didn't get to share them with him, I know he'd of adored them.
    I'll be thinking of you op, stay strong and take care.


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