Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). Read warning in 1st post

Davei141 · 07-03-2016 01:38PM

Biggest positive of the weekend surely has to be no more Ido Portal wasting a slot on the MMA hour. John Kavanagh on later along with Shields should be good hear their thoughts on how it went down.

MrStuffins · 07-03-2016 01:47PM

A lot of people only loving the fact that McGregor lost. I bet they couldn't wait for the day that he finally tasted defeat in the UFC!

Firstly, sure there's no getting away from the fact that if you talk so much trash that you're going to get a backlash when you lose........ but what's a loss? Nothing! He's not beaten, he lost a fight!

Look at all the champions, Johnson, RDA, Cruz, Lawler, Cormier*, Werdum..... all of them have tasted defeat! What makes a REAL champion is tasting that defeat, learning from it and coming back stronger!

All the greats have had this same set back. Liddell lost to Jeremy Horn, Matt Hughes lost to Hallman, Hughes himself beat GSP before GSP came back to be the most dominant WW ever.

As Matt Hughes used to say, if you haven't been beaten, you haven't been fighting anybody!

TheNap · 07-03-2016 02:56PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

A lot of people only loving the fact that McGregor lost. I bet they couldn't wait for the day that he finally tasted defeat in the UFC!

Firstly, sure there's no getting away from the fact that if you talk so much trash that you're going to get a backlash when you lose........ but what's a loss? Nothing! He's not beaten, he lost a fight!

Look at all the champions, Johnson, RDA, Cruz, Lawler, Cormier*, Werdum..... all of them have tasted defeat! What makes a REAL champion is tasting that defeat, learning from it and coming back stronger!

All the greats have had this same set back. Liddell lost to Jeremy Horn, Matt Hughes lost to Hallman, Hughes himself beat GSP before GSP came back to be the most dominant WW ever.

As Matt Hughes used to say, if you haven't been beaten, you haven't been fighting anybody!

In fairness he left himself open for abuse it came with the territory . He said he would never tap again . He tapped . He slagged opponents for panic wresting , he panic wrestled . He said he could go all day . He gassed.

Anyway one lose wont kill him and will add to the intrigue for his next fight against Edgar/Aldo or a rematch against Nate if he cant cut to 145.

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 07-03-2016 02:59PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

As Matt Hughes used to say, if you haven't been beaten, you haven't been fighting anybody!

Great point, Conor could have refused to fight after RDA pulled out, if I'm not mistaken, Jon Bones Jones did that when Dan Henderson became injured and refused to fight Chael Sonnen, UFC 151 was then cancelled.

Sure, it would have looked better on his record, but with so many people pulling out of fights with him - he'd never get a fight.

Realistically speaking, Conor took a big risk fighting Diaz on short notice. He could have turned down the fight, or pushed to have the fight at lightweight, forcing Diaz into a tough weight cut.

But despite all of his trash talking, I don't think the man should be berated for stepping up to a challenge.

JJayoo · 07-03-2016 03:02PM

Diaz is a much easier fight than RDA any day of the week.

davmol · 07-03-2016 03:44PM

Agree with previous posters.I think McG needs to change camp or at least go away and train with grappling animals.Iron sharpens iron and all that and it was evident ,even though he gassed,that his ground game needs improvement.Diaz mounted him and finished with ease.

Mcg is obviously very loyal to his team but in order to advance his career and become an all time great he will have to get experience outside of SBG.

Polo_Mint · 07-03-2016 03:45PM

I think Conor needs to decide what he wants a Stick to it.

Either fight Anyone, Anytime , Anywhere and expect to win or lose ( Russian Roulette )

or

Focus on Divisions and work through them making him a better fighter. ( Improvement )

evil_seed · 07-03-2016 03:46PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

A lot of people only loving the fact that McGregor lost. I bet they couldn't wait for the day that he finally tasted defeat in the UFC!

Firstly, sure there's no getting away from the fact that if you talk so much trash that you're going to get a backlash when you lose........ but what's a loss? Nothing! He's not beaten, he lost a fight!

Look at all the champions, Johnson, RDA, Cruz, Lawler, Cormier*, Werdum..... all of them have tasted defeat! What makes a REAL champion is tasting that defeat, learning from it and coming back stronger!

All the greats have had this same set back. Liddell lost to Jeremy Horn, Matt Hughes lost to Hallman, Hughes himself beat GSP before GSP came back to be the most dominant WW ever.

As Matt Hughes used to say, if you haven't been beaten, you haven't been fighting anybody![/QUOTE]

So by that logic, with McGregor being unbeaten he was fighting nobodies. Gothcha!

MrStuffins · 07-03-2016 03:54PM

evil_seed wrote: »

MrStuffins wrote: »

A lot of people only loving the fact that McGregor lost. I bet they couldn't wait for the day that he finally tasted defeat in the UFC!

Firstly, sure there's no getting away from the fact that if you talk so much trash that you're going to get a backlash when you lose........ but what's a loss? Nothing! He's not beaten, he lost a fight!

Look at all the champions, Johnson, RDA, Cruz, Lawler, Cormier*, Werdum..... all of them have tasted defeat! What makes a REAL champion is tasting that defeat, learning from it and coming back stronger!

All the greats have had this same set back. Liddell lost to Jeremy Horn, Matt Hughes lost to Hallman, Hughes himself beat GSP before GSP came back to be the most dominant WW ever.

As Matt Hughes used to say, if you haven't been beaten, you haven't been fighting anybody!

So by that logic, with McGregor being unbeaten he was fighting nobodies. Gothcha!

He wasn't unbeaten, he'd been beaten twice!

BoatMad · 07-03-2016 04:07PM

A lot of people only loving the fact that McGregor lost. I bet they couldn't wait for the day that he finally tasted defeat in the UFC!

given how he carried on, a lot of people are loving his taste of humility , its called schadenfreude, Germany invented it , Ireland elevates it to an art form

MayoAreMagic · 07-03-2016 04:12PM

TheNap wrote: »

In fairness he left himself open for abuse it came with the territory . He said he would never tap again . He tapped . He slagged opponents for panic wresting , he panic wrestled . He said he could go all day . He gassed.

Anyway one lose wont kill him and will add to the intrigue for his next fight against Edgar/Aldo or a rematch against Nate if he cant cut to 145.

Exactly. At the end of the day, he set himself up for that fall with his constant hubris. He brought everything that he is getting now onto himself and that is all their is too it really. You cant have it every way.

What will be interesting is his next contest. It is probably the most important fight of his career.

BoatMad · 07-03-2016 04:15PM

What will be interesting is his next contest. It is probably the most important fight of his career.

indeed, he is now clearly beatable. it wiped out the Romans as well

JustTheOne · 07-03-2016 04:15PM

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Exactly. At the end of the day, he set himself up for that fall with his constant hubris. He brought everything that he is getting now onto himself and that is all their is too it really. You cant have it every way.

What will be interesting is his next contest. It is probably the most important fight of his career.

What fall?

He lost one fight.

07-03-2016 04:18PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Diaz is a much easier fight than RDA any day of the week.

Does RDA eat the lefts and keep coming like Diaz? I don't think so. I think they would destroy him. You would have a hard time knocking Diaz out with a baseball bat in fairness.

Subcomandante Marcos · 07-03-2016 04:23PM

Sergio Georgini wrote: »

Does RDA eat the lefts and keep coming like Diaz? I don't think so. I think they would destroy him. You would have a hard time knocking Diaz out with a baseball bat in fairness.

RDA wouldn't get hit as much as Diaz, he'd just close the distance and do an impression of Bam-Bam from the flintstones.

Tar.Aldarion · 07-03-2016 04:25PM

MMA maths doesn't work. They are very different fights.

Gamebred · 07-03-2016 04:27PM

Sergio Georgini wrote: »

Does RDA eat the lefts and keep coming like Diaz? I don't think so. I think they would destroy him. You would have a hard time knocking Diaz out with a baseball bat in fairness.

Now that you mention weapons :pac:

The Diaz brothers are legends.

Pudsy33 · 07-03-2016 04:30PM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

MMA maths doesn't work. They are very different fights.

I think this point has been overlooked. There is no way McGregor approaches a fight with RDA the same way.

Ctrl Alt Delete · 07-03-2016 04:41PM

Late to the party but I think it's very very sad to see fellow Irish men relishing in his defeat.

The man went up a second weight class at short notice and still turned up to fight. Respect given for the fact he still turned up which is more than slot of anti Mc Gregor people would do.

Even the greatest lost (Ali lost 5 matches) and Mc Gregor is handling his loss well. It will make him better for sure.

Gamebred · 07-03-2016 04:47PM

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/3/7/11171348/jose-aldo-says-soap-hands-conor-mcgregor-looked-like-a-kid-getting-slapped-ufc-news

Jose is a gas man,I hope his begging for this rematch works so i get to see him unconcious again

Zero-Cool · 07-03-2016 04:53PM

Aw no.....Conor actually broke Aldo

"He doesn't have punching power, They put a skateboard in there for me to slip on"

JustTheOne · 07-03-2016 04:56PM

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Aw no.....Conor actually broke Aldo "He doesn't have punching power, They put a skateboard in there for me to slip on"

He needs to get back and shut people like Aldo up.

No doubt he will.

OrgasmicBaz · 07-03-2016 05:14PM

Was really disappointed with his gas tank the other day. People will say it was down to him focus on haymakers & missing but it was only the 2nd round and he was clearly struggling. The build up to the fight he was saying this was his easiest weight cut & felt great, which is more of a head scratcher

Plus its his 3rd loss to submission, which other fighters are going to take up on & recognise his weakness

I agree with other people saying he should switch things up in terms of training camps. Team Elevation seem to be on the up & have amazing facilities & coaches but with since Dillashaw trains there dont think he would be welcome!

It was a hard one to take, but a rematch with Aldo or fight with Edgar is shaping up nicely. Either fight is going to generate a massive amount of interest.

On the upside McGregor on a Dublin card 2016 seems more of a possibility after that result

xtal191 · 07-03-2016 06:04PM

Aldo is terrible at trash talking

EagererBeaver · 07-03-2016 06:06PM

xtal191 wrote: »

Aldo is terrible at trash talking

I assume it comes off a bit better in
Portuguese in fairness.

ricero · 07-03-2016 06:21PM

I reckon at ufc 200 we see aldo v mcgregor as jose aldo is a bigger draw than frankie, diaz v dos anjos for the lightweight belt and taite v rousey for the belt.

paulieeye · 07-03-2016 06:35PM

ricero wrote: »

I reckon at ufc 200 we see aldo v mcgregor as jose aldo is a bigger draw than frankie, diaz v dos anjos for the lightweight belt and taite v rousey for the belt.

yeah, if you could get those and lawler on there it would be epic...Lawler v GSP?? Would sell zillions

DrumSteve · 07-03-2016 06:40PM

ricero wrote: »

I reckon at ufc 200 we see aldo v mcgregor as jose aldo is a bigger draw than frankie, diaz v dos anjos for the lightweight belt and taite v rousey for the belt.

Tonight, Matthew...

sonofenoch · 07-03-2016 06:41PM

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Exactly. At the end of the day, he set himself up for that fall with his constant hubris. He brought everything that he is getting now onto himself and that is all their is too it really. You cant have it every way.

What will be interesting is his next contest. It is probably the most important fight of his career.

Also in that infamous 'El Chapo' press conference he insulted just about every fighter in game by saying he'd take out the whole roster in 4 months, nobody was on his level.......he went way overboard in that presser for me, it was too much McGregor and brought all the enemies on him...

In saying that I still wanted to see him win and continue winning

loudnoises89 · 07-03-2016 07:05PM

I would much rather see McGregor vs Edgar at 200. Do we really want to go through another McGregor/Aldo circus. I for one have had enough of that promoting, maybe let it stew for awhile. Edgar is a new opponent and more intriguing for the fans.

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