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UFC 196: McGregor v Diaz

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  • #2222
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    glasso wrote: »
    If he comes back with dignity and actually does something in the ring
    Like what, win a world title?


  • #2223
    jigglypuffstuff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭jigglypuffstuff


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Ok wait a minute. Conor only wins because he is bigger but it doesn't matter that Diaz is three inches taller and has a two inch reach advantage and is heavier?

    I said dominates, not wins...perhaps read my post again....He said himself they cant take his shots..this is why

    but lets look at McGregors last few fights in the 145

    Vs Brandao = 5in reach adv plus 2in height
    Vs Porier = 2in reach adv plus 0in height
    Vs Siver = 7in reach adv plus 2.5in height
    Vs Mendes = 8in reach adv plus 3in height
    Vs Aldo = 4in reach adv plus 3in height

    Yeah it seems he was at his first disadvantage this time around..didnt end well for him...but hes a lightweight by nature imo and undergoes a brutal cut to make the 145..thats what makes him the bully of the division

    Diaz is a 155er usually, as should be Conor..

    Anyway, RDA is the same height with less reach than Mcgregor and he beat Nate.. Considering that, My point remains, Diaz is the superior fighter...if McGregor were he'd have done exactly what RDA did..but he didnt


  • #2224
    Martypants1
    Site Banned Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Martypants1


    nacho libre wrote: »
    i know, but the poster was saying it did not matter to him if it was country or the individual, he felts no compulsion to support a team or individual based on an accident of birth. To reiterate i don't particulary care for mcgregors conducts, but if he wasn't irish, i would still admire his story. Mc gregors is representing Ireland, but the problem for you and others is, you are ashamed of this, i am not. Ali was an outright prick, it doesn't detract from the fact he was a great fighter. although i've stired up another argument now because the refrain will be don't put McGregor and Ali in the same category:D, but that is not my intention. what i'm trying to convey is that you don't have to like a person, to admire his/her talent.

    Saying Ali is a prick is like saying Andy Lee is a prick, or Anthony Joshua is a prick, or Carl Frampton.

    There's standard arrogance "I'll knock him out" pre fight shenanigans but calling another fighter a Nazi and more is just the sign of a cock.

    You might say it's all an act but it all comes a little too easy for Conor...


  • #2225
    VinylJunkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭VinylJunkie


    Gamebred wrote: »
    That literally has nothing to do with the post you quoted.
    It's a combination of posts
    John_D80 wrote: »
    Diaz has some advantages but yes McGregor is most definitely a better all rounder than Diaz IMO.
    John_D80 wrote: »
    Never thought I'd be extolling Conor's virtues to Gamebred of all people. Strange days!!

    Conor is far and away the better and more complete fighter of the two. I'm a huge fan of both guys and have loved watching Nate fight since he first appeared on TUF 5 but Conor was easily the main architect of his own demise.

    I definitely agree that if he was hunting points instead of a TKO he would have done better. It was Conor's total lack of gameplan that led to his defeat more than anything else. A calculated gameplan could have seen Conor decimate Diaz slowly over the course of 3 or four rounds and there is no doubt in my mind that if he had been patient he could have gotten the legit stoppage that he was hunting so furiously, too early on. McGregor believed too much in his own hype and just didn't give Diaz the respect that he deserved.

    Where I disagree with you though is that IMO Conor remains the better all-round fighter of the two. A rematch (at any weight) would be a very different fight and very different result.


  • #2226
    davmol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭davmol


    nehe milner skudder wrote: »
    I was . I had them -8 at even money. Won 40 euro
    Was delighted when Mike Brown scored.
    Big fan of Italy and love Belgium. Lived there for two years. They also have a few players shoring up the defence of my beloved Spurs.
    I won't be rooting for Ireland in the euros. They play horrible stuff.

    Sad individual.I cant imagine how devoid my self would be if I couldn't get behind my country and head to the pub with fellow Irishmen and enjoy the ups and downs of a top competition ie the euros,6 nations rugby.

    Not going to a mates house and getting behing McGregor and following the story of a man from the same city as me as he wins world championship.

    The fact that you were happy when Mike brown scored and your country lost and the fact that you cleaned up with a whopping 40 euro and werehappy about it speaks volume to the person you are.

    Your life must be quite sad having no passion for your country or fellow countrymens achievements on the world stage.


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  • #2227
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,459 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Leave th Ali-McGregor comparisons out of this. They are farcical. Conor doesn't believe half the nonsense he spouts. It's the most contrived nonsense. It is working for him, as it is making him big bucks.


  • #2228
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    davmol wrote: »
    I never quite understand people who don't get behind fellow countrymen who fight on the worlds stage.Sure,Mcg is mouthy and brash but its all part of the entertainment.
    Seeing an Irishman( I assume you are irish) berating another Irishman who is fighting on the worlds stage always puzzled me regardless if you like the man or not.

    This may come as a surprise to you, but not every fan likes the cocky, brash trash talkers.


  • #2229
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    glasso wrote: »
    that's a facile argument that only applies if people who don't like him buy his ppv or go to his fights, or buy his silly Reebok hats that he promotes up on Instagram. Which they don't.


    Dont buy his fights? jesus christ you boys are producing some gold here,so your telling me the lads on here and people in general that hate him and are commenting on him didnt even watch the fight?


  • #2230
    John_D80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    glasso wrote: »
    that's a facile argument that only applies if people who don't like him buy his ppv or go to his fights, or buy his silly Reebok hats that he promotes up on Instagram. Which they don't.


    You mention Instagram so I'll use that as example to prove to you how wrong you actually are. A huge majority of people who follow him on Instagram (and twitter etc) are people who hate him. Every time they comment on his posts/pictures/tweets they are pushing his profile out there even more, thus increasing his exposure and marketability. And that is just one medium. Ever news website that runs a story on him keeps track of web traffic and will continue to post articles about the people that are getting the most ''clicks''.

    You dont have to be liked to be famous, just talked about. And he is one of the most talked about sportsmen in the world today. Even this thread is promoting him every time someone in it clicks on a link to another article posted by a hater.

    Classic.


  • #2231
    Martypants1
    Site Banned Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Martypants1


    davmol wrote: »
    Sad individual.I cant imagine how devoid my self would be if I couldn't get behind my country and head to the pub with fellow Irishmen and enjoy the ups and downs of a top competition ie the euros,6 nations rugby.

    Not going to a mates house and getting behing McGregor and following the story of a man from the same city as me as he wins world championship.

    The fact that you were happy when Mike brown scored and your country lost and the fact that you cleaned up with a whopping 40 euro and werehappy about it speaks volume to the person you are.

    Your life must be quite sad having no passion for your country or fellow countrymens achievements on the world stage.

    You must despise most of America who wanted a Phillipino to beat an American so?


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  • #2232
    Martypants1
    Site Banned Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Martypants1


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Dont buy his fights? jesus christ you boys are producing some gold here,so your telling me the lads on here and people in general that hate him and are commenting on him didnt even watch the fight?

    Illegal ways of doing it you know.


  • #2233
    davmol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭davmol


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    This may come as a surprise to you, but not every fan likes the cocky, brash trash talkers.

    And not every fan likes the boring PC sports people who hash out the same old rehearsed polite ,non confrontational ,PC bullcrap that we so used to hearing.

    You want to know why Mcg broke all records for views for press conferences, weigh ins etc?Because hes not the run of the mill PC garbage spewer.He tells it the way he sees it and is very entertaining.Give me Mcg any day over the likes of these other snoreboys.


  • #2234
    nehe milner skudder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭nehe milner skudder


    davmol wrote: »
    Sad individual.I cant imagine how devoid my self would be if I couldn't get behind my country and head to the pub with fellow Irishmen and enjoy the ups and downs of a top competition ie the euros,6 nations rugby.

    Not going to a mates house and getting behing McGregor and following the story of a man from the same city as me as he wins world championship.



    The fact that you were happy when Mike brown scored and your country lost and the fact that you cleaned up with a whopping 40 euro and werehappy about it speaks volume to the person you are.

    Your life must be quite sad having no passion for your country or fellow countrymens achievements on the world stage.


    A lot of assumption and nasty insinuation there.

    And not once did I insult you.
    That's the problem here . You guys play the man , not the ball.

    Attack the journalist, attack the poster. Attack the critic. No one wants debate.

    When someone posts up winnings the amount gets ridiculed.


  • #2235
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    John_D80 wrote: »
    You mention Instagram so I'll use that as example to prove to you how wrong you actually are. A huge majority of people who follow him on Instagram (and twitter etc) are people who hate him. Every time they comment on his posts/pictures/tweets they are pushing his profile out there even more, thus increasing his exposure and marketability. And that is just one medium. Ever news website that runs a story on him keeps track of web traffic and will continue to post articles about the people that are getting the most ''clicks''.

    You dont have to be liked to be famous, just talked about. And he is one of the most talked about sportsmen in the world today. Even this thread is promoting him every time someone in it clicks on a link to another article posted by a hater.

    Classic.



    You're talking to a wall mate,I hope they are fishing because I worry for them if not,intelligence of a snail,seething that ive pointed out they are directly putting their hard earned cash into Conors pocket enabling him to live the good life talking crap and fighting people,hilarious.


  • #2236
    Martypants1
    Site Banned Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Martypants1


    davmol wrote: »
    And not every fan likes the boring PC sports people who hash out the same old rehearsed polite ,non confrontational ,PC bullcrap that we so used to hearing.

    You want to know why Mcg broke all records for views for press conferences, weigh ins etc?Because hes not the run of the mill PC garbage spewer.He tells it the way he sees it and is very entertaining.Give me Mcg any day over the likes of these other snoreboys.

    He says it as he sees it? :pac::pac::pac:

    So Dennis Siver is really a Nazi? :eek:


  • #2237
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    davmol wrote: »
    And not every fan likes the boring PC sports people who hash out the same old rehearsed polite ,non confrontational ,PC bullcrap that we so used to hearing.

    You want to know why Mcg broke all records for views for press conferences, weigh ins etc?Because hes not the run of the mill PC garbage spewer.He tells it the way he sees it and is very entertaining.Give me Mcg any day over the likes of these other snoreboys.
    I don't think you know what PC means, and I say that as someone who like McGregor and those types. :p


  • #2238
    John_D80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    nehe milner skudder wrote: »
    A lot of assumption and nasty insinuation there.

    And not once did I insult you.
    That's the problem here . You guys play the man , not the ball.

    Attack the journalist, attack the poster. Attack the critic. No one wants debate.

    When someone posts up winnings the amount gets ridiculed.

    Debate, seriously?

    Most of the guys posting here at the moment are johnny-come-lately's with a handful of posts in the MMA forum since saturday night who plainly know nothing about the sport that we love and only came in here to troll and get a reaction because they have finally gotten their wish to see McGregor beaten.

    How about not attacking the fighter? There is a rule in this forum that doesn't allow ''fighter-bashing'' and to be honest I'm surprised more bans have not been handed out.

    So if you want debate, we as regular forum posters are more than happy to discuss the fight, but we as lovers of a sport wont be too happy to read and listen to ****e.

    This is not aimed directly at you by the way. Just commenting on your post.


  • #2239
    Martypants1
    Site Banned Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Martypants1


    Gamebred wrote: »
    You're talking to a wall mate,I hope they are fishing because I worry for them if not,intelligence of a snail,seething that ive pointed out they are directly putting their hard earned cash into Conors pocket enabling him to live the good life talking crap and fighting people,hilarious.

    He might need all his money to fix his cauliflower ears or plastic surgery in a couple of years. He's only 27 and he's more wrinkly than my sack.


  • #2240
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Dont buy his fights? jesus christ you boys are producing some gold here,so your telling me the lads on here and people in general that hate him and are commenting on him didnt even watch the fight?

    what If someone watches it without paying for it, for arguments sake.

    and I don't follow him on twitter or instagram but did have a look by using google, a well known search engine.


  • #2241
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    glasso wrote: »
    what If I watch it without paying for it, for arguments sake.


    Thats your problem,the last 2 words you posted,


    Have a good day.


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  • #2242
    Martypants1
    Site Banned Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Martypants1


    glasso wrote: »
    what If I watch it without paying for it, for arguments sake.

    He'll probably come back and say because you're watching it on your laptop, you're getting closer to it f*cking up than if you didn't watch it and because of McGregors sponsorship with Dell you're funding McGregor through watching it because you'll need to buy a new laptop.


  • #2243
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Seems like I've clicked on to Sherdog.

    GYANi7.gif


  • #2244
    John_D80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    glasso wrote: »
    what If someone watches it without paying for it, for arguments sake.

    and I don't follow him on twitter or instagram but did have a look by using google, a well known search engine.

    Many people who hate him do follow him on social media though to be fair? And I'm sure you've read articles online about him.

    All these things serve towards increasing his profile and by extension his marketability.

    Like it or not but even those who apparently hate him are doing just as much to increase his fame as those who love him.


  • #2245
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Martypants1 wrote: »
    He might need all his money to fix his cauliflower ears or plastic surgery in a couple of years. He's only 27 and he's more wrinkly than my sack.
    To be fair, the wimminz don't seem to have much problem with it!


  • #2246
    Davei141
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Gamebred wrote: »
    You're talking to a wall mate,I hope they are fishing because I worry for them if not,intelligence of a snail,seething that ive pointed out they are directly putting their hard earned cash into Conors pocket enabling him to live the good life talking crap and fighting people,hilarious.

    I don't know if somebody has informed of you this but we don't buy PPV's over here...


  • #2247
    John_D80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    Seriously, I think I must have set a record for reporting posts here in the last few days!!!


  • #2248
    John_D80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    Davei141 wrote: »
    I don't know if somebody has informed of you this but we don't buy PPV's over here...

    Eh yes we do have UFC PPV's here actually.

    UFC 196 PPV was €24.99 on fightpass on saturday night.


  • #2249
    Davei141
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    John_D80 wrote: »
    Eh yes we do have UFC PPV's here actually.

    UFC 196 PPV was €24.99 on fightpass on saturday night.

    Who dafuq on this forum has paid €25 to watch UFC 196? If only there was a subscription channel that enabled you to watch all the events..


  • #2250
    maximoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,210 ✭✭✭maximoose


    Davei141 wrote: »
    Who dafuq on this forum has paid €25 to watch UFC 196?

    I bought it on my Xbox for that price. What's the problem with that?

    (It got refunded and I watched for free, but let's assume it didn't!)


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  • #2251
    John_D80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    Davei141 wrote: »
    Who dafuq on this forum has paid €25 to watch UFC 196?

    I personally have a BT sports subscription but there are plenty of people that viewed it through fightpass.

    You said we dont but PPV's over here. I was just pointing out that you are wrong.


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