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  • #62
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    armaghlad wrote: »
    Why would a doctor knowingly take that substance if they were aware of the side effects?

    I know some doctors who are regular recreational drug users. It's definitely not uncommon.


  • #63
    Tipperary Fairy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭Tipperary Fairy


    Tigger wrote: »
    If you bring someone to a hospital and they are out of it they do a blood test
    To see what they're on

    Did you even read my post?


  • #64
    spud82
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭spud82


    I was chatting to one of my friends about it and her drink was spiked with ecstasy in a bar right across the road from where I was on Friday. I have been feeling **** all weekend, and when I was describing how bad I felt to her she said she was the exact same after her drink was spiked. It's very ****ing scary, as I have a heart condition. I can briefly remember grinding my teeth so much that they bled, and that i was sweating and drinking water all of Saturday, and than went to the emergency doctor , who thinks that it was ecstasy too. The guards are waiting on blood test results but did say it does happen and thanked me for coming forward.


    I can say hand on my heart I am well able to hold my drink, I've never blacked out before bar when I was 16 and at my friends sleepover and we tried vodka from the drinking cabinet. It's a horrible experience. I still feel really sick, I am afraid to go out now, after what happened.


  • #65
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    I know some doctors who are regular recreational drug users. It's definitely not uncommon.
    I accept that. It just doesn't add up for me though.

    Why would a medically trained professional seek a blood test if they already know what would show up in the results? Especially if they knew the presence of that substance in their system would point the finger of suspicion towards them engaging in recreational drug use? It could well have been a bluff but she could easily have been spiked by a colleague.


  • #66
    stoplooklisten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    armaghlad wrote: »
    I accept that. It just doesn't add up for me though.

    Why would a medically trained professional seek a blood test if they already know what would show up in the results? Especially if they knew the presence of that substance in their system would point the finger of suspicion towards them engaging in recreational drug use? It could well have been a bluff but she could easily have been spiked by a colleague.

    to have an excuse for her action quite possibly, "not my fault, I was spiked " but you are also correct, it could have placed there by another


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  • #67
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Tigger wrote: »
    GBH is not common to getunless you work as an anesthesiologist
    GBH gets you high
    People take drugs to get high

    GBH is used by bodybuilders, athletes, increase growth hormone or something, hard to detect
    Tigger wrote: »
    GBH is not common to getunless you work as an anesthesiologist....................

    BDO, GBL get converted by your body into GBH

    BDO comes by the train-load if you need it
    BDO is offered in tank trucks, tank containers, railcars and 205kg drums

    http://product-finder.basf.com/group/corporate/product-finder/en/brand/1_4_BUTANEDIOL


    Butanediol and its derivatives is used in a broad spectrum of applications in the chemical industry; amongst others in the manufacturing of technical plastics, polyurethanes, solvents, electronic chemicals and elastic fibres


  • #68
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    I was only ever spiked once. It was one night out in Waterford. I was out with my friend who was quite nerdy and sensible and the only friend I have that I wouldn't be comfortable getting drunk around. Minus craic being judged.

    So, that night we went out for dinner. Beautiful food, glass of wine each. Walked into town and had 1 drink in a bar, where we met this group of guys. I think this is where I was spiked but I can't be sure. I remember going into the club across the street, but I don't actually remember being in there or leaving or getting home. My next clear memory is being in my living room, my friend, 2 guys. My housemate was sitting on the couch too, which was weird.
    I got a sudden burst of clarity. Who were they? Why are they here? So I demanded they leave. They weren't too inclined to go and I started freaking out at them. My other housemate came down stairs and the two housemates threw them out.

    I was in an awful state. I climbed a wall, in my bare feet, ran down to the end of my estate and my housemate came looking for me. I was in a really bad state.

    Now he knew me for three years, we partied together all the time and he knew there was something different about that night. He knew I wasn't just drunk.
    The next two or three days everything hurt, muscles, tummy, head. I was really unwell.

    When I talked to him about it, he said he knew something had happened me when I brought the strangers back - I'd never ever ever done that before, and my eyes were apparently rolling in my head. I don't know what was in my drink but I was shook for days


  • #69
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    armaghlad wrote: »
    Yes but why would she go for a blood test then if she knew it would show up GBH which would probably weaken her case?

    Because it did t weaken her case it was an attempt to excuse her going psycho on the psni


  • #70
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    I was only ever spiked once. It was one night out in Waterford. I was out with my friend who was quite nerdy and sensible and the only friend I have that I wouldn't be comfortable getting drunk around. Minus craic being judged.

    So, that night we went out for dinner. Beautiful food, glass of wine each. Walked into town and had 1 drink in a bar, where we met this group of guys. I think this is where I was spiked but I can't be sure. I remember going into the club across the street, but I don't actually remember being in there or leaving or getting home. My next clear memory is being in my living room, my friend, 2 guys. My housemate was sitting on the couch too, which was weird.
    I got a sudden burst of clarity. Who were they? Why are they here? So I demanded they leave. They weren't too inclined to go and I started freaking out at them. My other housemate came down stairs and the two housemates threw them out.

    I was in an awful state. I climbed a wall, in my bare feet, ran down to the end of my estate and my housemate came looking for me. I was in a really bad state.

    Now he knew me for three years, we partied together all the time and he knew there was something different about that night. He knew I wasn't just drunk.
    The next two or three days everything hurt, muscles, tummy, head. I was really unwell.

    When I talked to him about it, he said he knew something had happened me when I brought the strangers back - I'd never ever ever done that before, and my eyes were apparently rolling in my head. I don't know what was in my drink but I was shook for days
    Did you get a blood or urine test? To see what you'd been spiked with?


  • #71
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    No, didn't go to the hospital at all. Wouldn't even cross my mind to, to be honest. If something happened me and I was injured or needed fixing up, I'd go. But I wouldn't have 100 to hand over just to find out what would have spiked me the night before. They wouldn't be able to make me better and the guys who did it wouldn't be caught so what's the point


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  • #72
    skittles8710
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭skittles8710


    Happened to me also, went into a toilet in a small rural pub and after two drinks left my drink on the counter for a few minutes while I went to the bathroom. Remember nothing after. Ended up passed out on a footpath shortly after with a cut on my head from falling and luckily was spotted by the guards and driven home.

    Was terrifying. Always bring my drink everywhere with me now.


  • #73
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Why do so many claim they've been spiked but not even get tested to back up the claim? It's beyond me...


  • #74
    [Deleted User]
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    smash wrote: »
    Why do so many claim they've been spiked but not even get tested to back up the claim? It's beyond me...

    I'd say the experience is terrifying. Being that disorientated and missing time must be really horrifying when you draw a blank.

    Most spikings are alcohol, so being tested can amount to being told you're just really drunk and lost track of how many drinks you had, and there's no way of showing otherwise.


  • #75
    Penny Tration
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Candie wrote: »
    I'd say the experience is terrifying. Being that disorientated and missing time must be really horrifying when you draw a blank.

    Most spikings are alcohol, so being tested can amount to being told you're just really drunk and lost track of how many drinks you had, and there's no way of showing otherwise.

    To add to that - I'd imagine many, many people, once they know they got home safely, weren't injured, weren't attacked and have all of their belongings, decide it's not "serious" enough to go to hospital or the police.


    I was spiked, but with alcohol. Was with two male friends. Had two vodkas (and at that time, I could handle a LOT of vodka).

    Woke up on the kitchen floor of one of the lad's houses. Nothing happened to me thankfully, but apparently one of the morons thought it'd be hilarious to throw extra vodka into my second drink, then vodka into each glass of squash I had after, anytime I went out for a smoke or to the bathroom..


  • #76
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    smash wrote: »
    Why do so many claim they've been spiked but not even get tested to back up the claim? It's beyond me...

    Who are they supposed to be backing it up for? Strangers on the internet who reckon they just drank too much?

    If you get spiked you're probably going to be feeling like crap the next day, mentally and physically. It'll probably be the weekend. If it even crosses your mind to go get a blood test, you might really not feel like hauling ass to the hospital to hand over around 100 quid for no good reason.


  • #77
    hairyprincess
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭hairyprincess


    I had my drink spiked by a barman, for the craic! Some craic it was.

    So yea, it's not always the sexual predatory stranger lurking in the bushes.


  • #78
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    hairyprincess wrote: »
    I had my drink spiked by a barman, for the craic! Some craic it was.

    So yea, it's not always the sexual predatory stranger lurking in the bushes.

    Oh those guys! Gas craic! "Sure it's only a bit of banter!"


  • #79
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    You'd need to be fairly lashing down drinks spiked with alcohol to not notice yourself getting drunk and suffer a blackout.


  • #80
    Penny Tration
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    kneemos wrote: »
    You'd need to be fairly lashing down drinks spiked with alcohol to not notice yourself getting drunk and suffer a blackout.

    I'd imagine I got quite drunk, and at some stage realised I was drunk, but I don't exactly remember anything after like 9pm. Wouldn't call it a blackout, I didn't faint. I just fell asleep on the floor and can't remember anything.

    Cheers for the judgement though


  • #81
    kneemos
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    Penny Tration wrote: »
    I'd imagine I got quite drunk, and at some stage realised I was drunk, but I don't exactly remember anything after like 9pm. Wouldn't call it a blackout, I didn't faint. I just fell asleep on the floor and can't remember anything.

    Cheers for the judgement though



    Yeah,that's a blackout.


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  • #82
    Penny Tration
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    kneemos wrote: »
    Yeah,that's a blackout.

    A blackout is a "temporary loss of consciousness."

    I fell asleep. I did not black out. I simply have no memory of what happened or if I realised I was drunk (i assume I realised it at some stage).


  • #83
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    I'd always use blackout to describe having no memory of what happened though, thought that's what everyone meant when they said it.


  • #84
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Penny Tration wrote: »
    A blackout is a "temporary loss of consciousness."

    I fell asleep. I did not black out. I simply have no memory of what happened or if I realised I was drunk (i assume I realised it at some stage).


    A blackout in regard to alcohol is when you don't remember the night before.

    Wasn't referring to you particularly,just a general observation as to how a drink spiked with alcohol wouldn't he noticed.


  • #85
    [Deleted User]
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    kneemos wrote: »
    A blackout in regard to alcohol is when you don't remember the night before.

    Wasn't referring to you particularly,just a general observation as to how a drink spiked with alcohol wouldn't he noticed.

    Lots of people wouldn't notice if they were already fairly merry before getting tanked up against their will.


  • #86
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Candie wrote: »
    I'd say the experience is terrifying. Being that disorientated and missing time must be really horrifying when you draw a blank.
    I'd say it is terrifying. But stories are usually accompanied with "I was with good friends who took care of me".... Then why did they not bring you to a hospital?
    Candie wrote: »
    Most spikings are alcohol, so being tested can amount to being told you're just really drunk and lost track of how many drinks you had, and there's no way of showing otherwise.
    "I was spiked" seems to have become the go to line when people get that little too rat arsed. If you've genuinely been spiked would you not want to know if it was just alcohol or something more sinister?
    Camden Ashy Ranch wrote: »
    Who are they supposed to be backing it up for? Strangers on the internet who reckon they just drank too much?
    For themselves. For their friends...
    Camden Ashy Ranch wrote: »
    If you get spiked you're probably going to be feeling like crap the next day, mentally and physically. It'll probably be the weekend. If it even crosses your mind to go get a blood test, you might really not feel like hauling ass to the hospital to hand over around 100 quid for no good reason.
    So is it "be vigilant. But sure when you're not, it doesn't really matter anyway"?


  • #87
    kylith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Penny Tration wrote: »
    I was spiked, but with alcohol. Was with two male friends. Had two vodkas (and at that time, I could handle a LOT of vodka).

    Woke up on the kitchen floor of one of the lad's houses. Nothing happened to me thankfully, but apparently one of the morons thought it'd be hilarious to throw extra vodka into my second drink, then vodka into each glass of squash I had after, anytime I went out for a smoke or to the bathroom..

    Similar happened me. Was out with a family member, had a few drinks, started feeling drunk. Asked him to get me a coke. Unbeknownst to me he put a triple vodka in it 'for the laugh'. I noticed that it tasted funny. He told me that they only had Pepsi behind the bar. I have rarely been as sick as I was that night.


  • #88
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    smash wrote: »
    For themselves. For their friends...


    So is it "be vigilant. But sure when you're not, it doesn't really matter anyway"?

    If I thought I'd been spiked, I'd believe me. If a friend told me they'd been spiked, I'd probably believe them. I wouldn't be asking for the bloodwork.

    Be vigilant because very bad things can happen to you when you're incapacitated. But if you've been incapacitated, gotten home safely and you're sober again, there's not a huge amount of point going to the hospital. Obviously if you've been assaulted or if you think you may have had sex then that's a different matter but apart from that..what purpose does it serve? I'd feel like I was really wasting medical staff's time


  • #89
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Camden Ashy Ranch wrote: »
    If I thought I'd been spiked, I'd believe me. If a friend told me they'd been spiked, I'd probably believe them. I wouldn't be asking for the bloodwork.

    Be vigilant because very bad things can happen to you when you're incapacitated. But if you've been incapacitated, gotten home safely and you're sober again, there's not a huge amount of point going to the hospital. Obviously if you've been assaulted or if you think you may have had sex then that's a different matter but apart from that..what purpose does it serve? I'd feel like I was really wasting medical staff's time

    Getting blood work isn't just to say "yep, I was spiked", it's also to say "I was spiked with X,y or z". Considering it most often happens by people in your own group would you not want to know if a supposed friend had dropped you a shot of vodka or rohypnol?


  • #90
    stoplooklisten
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    kylith wrote: »
    Similar happened me. Was out with a family member, had a few drinks, started feeling drunk. Asked him to get me a coke. Unbeknownst to me he put a triple vodka in it 'for the laugh'. I noticed that it tasted funny. He told me that they only had Pepsi behind the bar. I have rarely been as sick as I was that night.

    a triple vodka in a coke and you thought it was pepsi?

    did you drink the whole glass of it?


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  • #91
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,059 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    This pointless questioning and skepticism is fairly f**king tiresome.


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