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How do men feel when women cry?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭PLL


    I'm a fairly emotional person, I try not to cry about ridiculous things like movies openly infront of my fiancé as I don't want to draw attention to that kind of silly emotion.

    My fiancé has always been there when I'm actually upset. Sometimes when he comes home from his high adrenaline job he can be a little agitated so he may be a little detached from me being upset but after relaxing he will come and cheer me up/comfort me.

    The only time he has told me to stop crying is in arguments when I'm sure like other posters have mentioned he thinks I'm trying to win or get sympathy. Im actual fact if I cry it's because I genuinely can't deal with the arguing at that moment, usually I'm well able to have an argument, I like to get my point across, not cry my way out of it. Hate that kind of manipulation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Peregrine wrote: »
    I think you're generalising men a lot in this thread.

    If your husband gets frustrated with you when you cry, you'll have to ask him why. We couldn't possibly tell you why.

    If your friend's husband gets angry at her for crying while grieving for her friend then, I'm sorry to say this, he sounds like an arsehole.

    Yeah, I don't think is a gender issue. I know many men who will comfort a crying woman, and I also know many women who will have no idea what to do and back right away from the situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    The more I cry, the more my husband shuts off and goes distant. Which is really ironic because sometimes the reason I'm crying is I just need some closeness and I'm tired of him always being busy with something else. I tried explaining that one minute of fussing over me, just a sincere smile and hug, would do me for the whole day, but he is high-functioning autistic and he just isn't a person to whom touch comes naturally.

    There's a lot of reason to believe that I'm also high-functioning autistic, but it manifests differently in women and I've got it down to where things are just harder for me, not impossible. :) I admit that I also feel lost and scared when my husband (or anyone else) is strongly emotional. Christ, what a pair we are. lol...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    When this grieving person cries in front of her husband has she explained what she's grieving about?

    I ask this seriously as I was once going out with a girl when her father died as a result of a car crash. I was there for the initial shock and took time off work to help with the aftermath.
    However months later she'd frequently burst out crying, I totally understood it was grief but she'd start arguing with me about why can't I be more emotionally empathetic etc.. I was there for her and her family the whole time.

    This resulted in a few arguments and the more I tried to defuse them the worse it got. I'd say I empathize but it offered her no relief when she was in balls of tears. She took my suggestion of grief counseling badly as she thought I was fobbing her off but truly it felt the only response she'd accept was a corresponding amount of tears.

    It was frustrating for me as I felt totally inadequate to help relieve the suffering of the person I loved and being around her when she was this brittle felt like walking on glass. Then the episode would pass but when friends are around she'd tell them she's been getting on fine since her fathers death while I sat there wondering what's the bloody point in trying.

    I did what I could but ultimately I felt she was taking her anger of grief out on me and ultimately it pretty much destroyed out relationship. I look back and don't know what I could have done differently, I'm not a tear machine that can be switched on anytime nor am I emotionally cold; my own fathers passing was a very emotional time but my present partners presence was all the support I needed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    What ya genna cry now?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Frowzy wrote: »
    But how would you react if she was crying over something that you can't fix? Would you get frustrated?

    In my case if she's crying it's because she's genuinely upset about something. In that situation it's only right and proper to offer some comfort- they are upset after all.
    Just because a person can't fix something doesn't mean they shouldn't offer a shoulder to cry into. We can't fix everything that's wrong in someone's world so there's no need to be heartless feckers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,270 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    If its for something genuine, I get all confused and in my mind its just "what do I do.........what do I do..........what do I do..........what do I do.........."

    But if its being used for manipulative ways, like crocodile tears and its being used to extract a reaction, then I will lose my s***. It's never happened to me though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I think if you hold his hand in an arguement it's better than tears. When we fight, if he's shouting at me I will take his hand and he won't shout, he'll either stop fighting with me, or he'll get his point across without being so angry.

    Tears in an arguement just sounds draining on everyone. It wouldn't even cross my mind to cry. Even if I was genuinely sad id hate to give him the power to make me cry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    Tears in an arguement just sounds draining on everyone. It wouldn't even cross my mind to cry. Even if I was genuinely sad id hate to give him the power to make me cry.

    Tears are very draining, but some of us don't have a lot of control over the way our emotions get expressed. I have had many talks with my husband over subjects that upset me and I don't mean to cry but I do. For example, last month, the day I received my pay I paid all the bills and dealt with all the monthly obligations and one-off things we needed, and there was barely enough in the bank for the last direct debit bill and food for the month. I'm not complaining, I have a full tank in the car and a few hundred euro in case of a true emergency. But when I was telling my husband what had happened and we were going over the bank statement, I cried. A lot. And I said, "I'm just upset I let us get this close to the wire. I don't mean to cry. I don't want to cry. I'm sorry." And he said, "I wish you wouldn't do that. You didn't do anything wrong. We have plenty in the freezer and we'll be OK. You worry too much." (Yes, I do.) He was acutely uncomfortable and I wasn't helping, though to be honest I was not in much of a state to be helpful in that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭DeltaWhite


    Coming from an all male family, I know this feeling all too well. I get the slaggins about crying which now at this stage has made me hide away whenever I get upset about the death of our Mam or other things that are monumental in my life.

    It is sad to think that I have to hide when I cry from my own flesh and blood. Just because they aren't able to deal with the tears of a woman! My last bf was even worse! What is it that's so bad????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Turned on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 832 ✭✭✭HamsterFace


    Turned on.

    Ditto. Tears make great lube.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    There are many differences; I've met a few women in my life who, rather unconsciously I would say, did actually use crying as the ultimate way to get their wishes - they simply used to burst in tears whenever they'd run out of options.

    One particularly "funny" occurrence was one girlfriend many years ago, whom I found a couple of times crying when coming back from the gym. She guilted me into giving up exercise to spend more time with her, only to be crying three months later about the fact I had put on weight, which in her mind meant I "didn't care about her" :D.

    Besides the "manipulation" scenarios, I do have very little patience for extreme weakness of character and lack of willpower. I am but an average person - nothing has ever been handed to me on a silver plate, I had to fight for some of the things I achieved, but other than that I can't say I had it particularly harder than the next guy or girl. Yet, I did meet a couple of girls who, faced with even the smallest bump in the road (e.g. a refusal letter from a job application or generally something not going as they wished), rather than steel up and look forward, learning from the experience, started crying and going on about "injustice" and the likes - like a small child. That, is something I actually can't remotely stand.

    Other than that (and crying about a concert, or about seeing some idol or one sort or another), I will admit being a sucker - I will try to do as much as I possibly can to help, even if it's just something stupid to lighten the mood.

    I've worked with women in the past who were subjected to a relevant amount of mobbing by a$$holish coworkers (long story), and seeing them cry in the office was amongst the saddest things I've experienced - they didn't deserve any of it.

    Of course the same goes with a partner - most likely, if she's crying is because of something that deeply affects her (e.g. losing someone), so being supportive is a must in my eyes.
    cronin_j wrote: »
    ...
    The most awkward one is where a work colleague starts bawling... you cant give em a hug and you cant give out so i tend to just ignore it or fake a concerned face.

    Well, it can be awkward, but you spend a relevant amount of time with these people, they are more important than most think. As I said earlier, I would not ignore them. Depending on the level of confidence with the person in question, I'd try to politely offer some help - sometimes even handing a packet of kleenex will go a long way. I don know we live in a completely mental world where everybody wants to see "sexual harassment" into everything, but what the hell...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Ditto. Tears make great lube.
    Mod: banned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Frowzy


    Peregrine wrote: »
    I think you're generalising men a lot in this thread.

    If your husband gets frustrated with you when you cry, you'll have to ask him why. We couldn't possibly tell you why.

    If your friend's husband gets angry at her for crying while grieving for her friend then, I'm sorry to say this, he sounds like an arsehole.

    I'm sorry! It wasn't my intention to generalise, however in general I'm getting sympathy from female family members or friends.

    We did lose a friend, however I respect her decision to go and I know I can't change that. It's not why I've been crying though! I didn't think the reason for my crying would be relevant but it seems that it is. Something happened at work a couple of months ago, I didn't tell my husband at the time because I'm not a dramatic person, I can look after myself and I thought making a formal complaint would suffice. Long story short I'm not as strong as I thought! After my friend died it all got too much and I did break down, now I'm on sick leave from work and spend all day crying.

    I know that any man would be angry if another man touched his wife in an inappropriate way, but I can't help but cry when I talk about it, he says he can't talk to me when I'm crying so we're at a stalemate right now, I just want him not to be angry with me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I manage a lot of women in work, tears are used selectively on a weekly basis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,247 ✭✭✭Maguined


    It obviously depends completely upon the context of what caused the tears. Serious issues illicit sympathy, melodrama results in frustration and manipulation causes utter disdain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 25,000 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    It depends on the context really. If it's patent attention seeking / drama I'd get frustrated in a "get a ****ing grip of yourself" way. If it's having a sniffle at a soppy movie I'll laugh. If it's a real moment of grief over a close friend / family member's death I'll be incredibly sympathetic but tbh, there have been moments when the o/h will end up crying over the death of someone she knew briefly 20 years ago. That's just silly imo, you've no attachment to that person any more, if you had, it wouldn't have been 20 years since you saw each other last.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Seeing people, in general, cry makes me feel awkward unless they're children ........ I usually don't know what to do, I suppose I should comfort them but I'm not a comforting kinda man to be honest.

    If my wife cries at something sad on tv I'll usually just laugh at her ........ if she cries because she's upset/worried/hurt about something, I'll give her a hug and try say something positive .......... if she cries because we're arguing I get annoyed and say something like "just because you're crying doesn't mean you're right!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    He gets angry cos she cries about a friend who died by suicide?

    Christ he sounds like an asshole!

    he sure does.
    but the OP doesn't give the time frame and the extent to to which this crying impinges on his life. The context is key.

    If she continually cries over this to the extent that they have no relationship and a constant sense of sadness in the home and the friend is a long time dead then i see his reaction as reasonable. he is entitled to a life too.

    Sympathy and understanding is fine but there is a time when the grieving should end. I mean the extreme point of grieving where it takes over. Of course we all grieve for somebody who has passed away, I'm not saying that is a bad thing at all.

    Its' easy to sit in judgement here when it's not your life that is being impacted.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    I remember a lady behind the counter in a shop crying as she watched Michael Jacksons funeral on the TV.
    She says "it's terribly sad, isn't it?"
    I was like "didn't know the guy personally"(fingers tapping waiting for her to put my items through the till)
    She still wasn't serving me, I had to ask her nicely if I could please pay as I have to go but that elicited a look of horror as if I'd just kicked a puppy in front of her.
    Sometimes people get carried away with their emotions, it doesn't mean everyone has to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Frowzy


    arayess wrote: »
    He gets angry cos she cries about a friend who died by suicide?

    Christ he sounds like an asshole!

    he sure does.
    but the OP doesn't give the time frame and the extent to to which this crying impinges on his life. The context is key.

    I've given a little more context on where I'm coming from in post #46


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭Tefral


    This thread reminded me of an article I read once by Damon Young called "Men just don't trust Women and that's a huge Problem" Here is the part of the article that's relevant to this:
    Trust. Well, the lack thereof. Generally speaking, we (men) do not believe things when they’re told to us by women. Well, women other than our mothers or teachers or any other woman who happens to be an established authority figure. Do we think women are pathological liars? No. But, does it generally take longer for us to believe something if a woman tells it to us than it would if a man told us the exact same thing? Definitely!
    This conversation is how, after five months of marriage, eight months of being engaged, and another year of whatever the hell we were doing before we got engaged, I realized I don’t trust my wife.

    When the concept of trust is brought up, it’s usually framed in the context of actions; of what we think a person is capable of doing. If you trust someone, it means you trust them not to cheat. Or steal. Or lie. Or smother you in your sleep. By this measure, I definitely trust my wife. I trust the **** out of her. I also trust her opinions about important things. I trusted that she’d make a great wife, and a trust that she’ll be a great mother. And I trust that her manicotti won’t kill me.

    But you know what I don’t really trust? What I’ve never actually trusted with any women I’ve been with? Her feelings.
    If she approaches me pissed about something, my first reaction is “What’s wrong?”

    My typical second reaction? Before she even gets the opportunity to tell me what’s wrong? “She’s probably overreacting.”
    My typical third reaction? After she expresses what’s wrong? “Ok. I hear what you’re saying, and I’ll help. But whatever you’re upset about probably really isn’t that serious.”

    I’m both smart and sane, so I don’t actually say any of this aloud. But I am often thinking it. Until she convinces me otherwise, I assume that her emotional reaction to a situation is disproportionate to my opinion of what level of emotional reaction the situation calls for. Basically, if she’s on eight, I assume the situation is really a six.

    I’m speaking of my own relationship, but I know I’m not alone. The theme that women’s feelings aren’t really to be trusted by men drives (an estimated) 72.81% of the sitcoms we watch, 31.2% of the books we read, and 98.9% of the conversations men have with other men about the women in their lives. Basically, women are crazy, and we are not. Although many women seem to be very annoyed by it, it’s generally depicted as one of those cute and innocuous differences between the sexes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,978 ✭✭✭PandaPoo


    Sometimes if I'm feeling really low for a few weeks I'll crack and cry hysterically for no reason, he'll lie down in bed with me and I'll cuddle into his chest and let it all out. He's great for making me laugh so I go from crying to laughing pretty quickly.

    Once he said something that really upset me, I went upstairs and bawled my eyes out. He felt terrible and was so apologetic. He gets emotional too, never seen him cry but he would get the odd teary eyed moment. I found that hard to deal with at the start, I'd roll my eyes and call him an eejit. Now I just smile at him :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    If it is because Spurs conceded a late equalizer then it is fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear




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